The UnCommon Good with Bo Bonner and Dr. Bud Marr

Bo Bonner and Dr. Bud Marr

A show about the Common Good (which is an uncommon topic--get it?), the Social Teaching of the Church, Servant Leadership, and the Social Reign of Jesus Christ.

  1. 1d ago

    From Stone-Campbell to Catholic: A Theologian's Journey Home with Dr. Steven Lawson – 06/13/2026

    This week on The Uncommon Good, Dr. Bud Maher flies solo while Bo Bonner continues his doctoral studies in England. His guest is Dr. Steven Lawson, a longtime friend and newly appointed associate professor of theology at Newman University in Wichita, Kansas — a position so new he hasn't appeared on the university's website yet. Check back at newman.edu this fall to follow his work. The Stone-Campbell Movement Dr. Lawson grew up in Grayson, Kentucky, the son of two Bible college professors deeply rooted in the Stone-Campbell (restorationist) movement — a tradition that intentionally uses generic church names like "Church of Christ" or "Christian Church" to emphasize unity over denominationalism. He explains the movement's founding principle ("where the Bible speaks, we speak; where the Bible is silent, we are silent"), its surprisingly robust understanding of baptism and weekly Eucharist, and how its Biblicist roots ironically pushed many of its most serious scholars toward deeper engagement with church history. The Academic Journey From Ozark Christian College in Joplin, Missouri, to Emmanuel Christian Seminary, and finally to Saint Louis University's PhD program in historical theology, Dr. Lawson describes how immersion in the Cappadocian Fathers, Augustine, and patristic scholarship created a hunger the Stone-Campbell tradition couldn't fully satisfy. He reflects on a remarkable cohort of fellow Stone-Campbell scholars at SLU — including mutual friends Alex Giltner, Jordan Wood, and Alden Bass — many of whom have since entered the Catholic Church. Hauerwas, Peterson, and Newman Two thinkers proved pivotal: ethicist Stanley Hauerwas, whose radical ecclesiology pushed Lawson to ask serious questions about what the Church actually is, and Protestant-turned-Catholic theologian Erik Peterson (1890–1960), whose conversion story Lawson wrote his dissertation on. He was asked three times during his dissertation defense: Why aren't you Catholic? Landing the Airplane The decisive moment came when an institutional merger at Austin Graduate School of Theology — where Lawson was teaching — produced an administrator's claim that a theology degree was "basically the same thing" as a degree in marriage and family therapy. That reduction of Christianity to a subjective self-help tool made staying in a subjectivist tradition impossible. He and his wife Emily entered RCIA at St. Ignatius Martyr Church in Austin, Texas, and entered full communion with the Catholic Church. Their baptisms were recognized as valid; no rebaptism was needed. Teaching Theology Today After three years teaching at a Catholic high school in St. Louis, Dr. Lawson reflects on what really matters in the classroom. His approach shifted away from memorizing theological vocabulary toward helping students encounter Christ through texts — most notably, using Augustine's Confessions as a mirror for students to map their own spiritual geographies and key life moments. Pope Leo's Encyclical Dr. Lawson offers an early take on Magnificat Humanitas, Pope Leo's new encyclical on human dignity and artificial intelligence, describing it as a text with real, lasting impact — one that calls the Church back to the concrete, local, embodied person in an age of commodification and algorithmic control. He sees limited room for AI in theological education, where the goal is encounter, not output. Dr. Lawson's conversion essay is available through his Facebook page. Look for his published work in the Newman Studies Journal. Dr. Bud Maher teases a return visit to go deeper on the encyclical. Pray with Iowa Catholic Radio: Rosary on air at 4:30 AM, 6:00 AM, 10:00 AM, and 8:30 PM. Chaplet of Divine Mercy at 2:57 PM. Download the Iowa Catholic Radio app to pray anytime, anywhere, and stay connected to events across the Diocese of Des Moines. Visit IowaCatholicRadio.com for events, donation options, and more. #TheUncommonGood #IowaCatholicRadio #CatholicConversion #StoneCampbellMovement #CatholicTheology #NewmanUniversity #BudMaher #DrStevenLawson #RestorationistMovement #ChurchHistory #CatholicFaith #Patristics #StanleyHauerwas #PopeLeo #MagnificatHumanitas #AugustineConfessions #CatholicPodcast #ConversionStory #SacramentalTheology #TeachingTheology #CatholicIntellectual #ErikPeterson #FullCommunion #SaintLouisUniversity #ProtestantToCAtholic Iowa Catholic Radio Network Shows: Be Not Afraid with Fr. Fabian Moncada and Fr. Bruce RiebeBe Not Afraid in Spanish with Fr. 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    51 min
  2. Jun 6

    Finding the Fullness of Faith: A Conversation with Matthew David Wiseman on His Road to Rome - 06/06/2026

    In this episode, Dr. Bud Marr sits down with Matthew David Wiseman — independent scholar, tutor, and author — for a wide-ranging conversation about one of the most theologically rich conversion stories you'll hear. Bo Bonner is traveling in Europe for the month of June, so Bud is flying solo and bringing some exceptional guests to the show. Highlights include: Matthew's upbringing as a Southern Baptist in West Texas and his family's gradual move toward home church worship His introduction to the Hebrew Roots Movement — a Gentile Christian movement emphasizing Torah observance, kosher laws, and Saturday Sabbath How disagreements over the interpretation of the Law (especially calculating feast days and the liturgical calendar) exposed the need for a living oral tradition His discovery that the Law of Moses is not self-interpreting — and how that realization cracked open the question of ecclesiastical authority His transition into Anglicanism, drawn by apostolic succession, and his eye-opening first encounter with Eucharistic liturgy — which he recognized as a fulfillment of temple worship and the Passover Seder The fragmentation of the Anglican Communion and how watching it fall apart confirmed for him that authority without a final arbiter cannot maintain unity His reception into the Catholic Church in 2016 in St. Andrews, Scotland — and why that moment felt like completion, not just conversion The influence of James Kugel's How to Read the Bible, Peter Kreeft, and C.S. Lewis on his intellectual journey Reflections on the Jewish roots of the Mass and the continuity between ancient Israel's worship and Catholic liturgy Matthew's book, The Two Jerusalems: My Conversion from the Messianic Movement to the Catholic Church, is available now. Contact Divine Treasures to check local availability. His interview on EWTN's The Coming Home Network is also available online and is highly recommended. #CatholicConversion #TheUncommonGood #IowaCatholicRadio #MatthewDavidWiseman #TheTwoJerusalems #ComingHomeNetwork #HebrewRootsMovement #MesianicMovement #CatholicFaith #JewishRootsOfCatholicism #ScriptureAndTradition #ApostolicSuccession #CatholicPodcast #ConversionStory #RoadToRome #EucharisticLiturgy #TorahObservance #AnglicansBecomingCatholic #CatholicBooks #FaithJourney Iowa Catholic Radio Network Shows: Be Not Afraid with Fr. Fabian Moncada and Fr. Bruce RiebeBe Not Afraid in Spanish with Fr. Fabian MoncadaCatholic Women Now with Chris Magruder and Julie NelsonMaking It Personal with Bishop William JoensenMan Up! with Joe StopulosSunday Dive with Katie PatrizioThe Catholic Morning Show with Dr. Bo BonnerThe Daily Gospel Reflection with Fr. Nick SmithThe Uncommon Good with Bo Bonner and Dr. Bud MarrFaith and Family Finance with Gregory WaddleWant to support your favorite show? Click Here Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    51 min
  3. May 30

    Psalm 23, Spiritual Warfare, and the Eucharist with Matthew Umbarger

    On this week’s episode of The UnCommon Good, Dr. Bud Marr welcomes returning guest Dr. Matthew Umbarger from Newman University in Wichita, Kansas. Dr. Umbarger shares his remarkable journey from the Restoration Movement and missionary work in Israel into the Catholic Church. Along the way, Bud and Matthew discuss biblical interpretation, the historical roots of Christian worship, the importance of reading Scripture in community, and how Catholic theology transformed their understanding of the Old Testament. The heart of the conversation centers on Dr. Umbarger’s book: “A Table in the Presence of My Enemies: Banqueting and Battling in Ancient Israel.” Listeners will hear a fascinating exploration of Psalm 23, the Eucharist as preparation for spiritual battle, the Passover connection to Christian worship, and how ancient Israel understood sacrificial meals before battle. The episode also touches on: Catholic biblical literacy today The Church Fathers and Scripture Historical criticism and faith Spiritual warfare and the Mass The continuity between the Old and New Testaments Why the Eucharist matters for daily Christian life #TheUnCommonGood #IowaCatholicRadio #MatthewUmbarger #BudMarr #BoBonner #Psalm23 #CatholicPodcast #CatholicRadio #Eucharist #SpiritualWarfare #BibleStudy #OldTestament #CatholicTheology #NewmanUniversity #CatholicFaith #ScriptureStudy #ChurchFathers #ChristianPodcast #CatholicTeaching #CatholicCulture Iowa Catholic Radio Network Shows: Be Not Afraid with Fr. Fabian Moncada and Fr. Bruce RiebeBe Not Afraid in Spanish with Fr. Fabian MoncadaCatholic Women Now with Chris Magruder and Julie NelsonMaking It Personal with Bishop William JoensenMan Up! with Joe StopulosSunday Dive with Katie PatrizioThe Catholic Morning Show with Dr. Bo BonnerThe Daily Gospel Reflection with Fr. Nick SmithThe Uncommon Good with Bo Bonner and Dr. Bud MarrFaith and Family Finance with Gregory WaddleWant to support your favorite show? Click Here Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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A show about the Common Good (which is an uncommon topic--get it?), the Social Teaching of the Church, Servant Leadership, and the Social Reign of Jesus Christ.

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