Insights for IT Negotiations

UpperEdge

The world's most trusted IT negotiation advisors for innovative IT sourcing and risk mitigation strategies

  1. JAN 29

    Beating the Odds: Governance, SAP RISE, and AI in a Major IT Transformation

    What does it take to successfully navigate a massive ITtransformation without ending up in the headlines? In this episode of Insights for IT Negotiations, hosts John Belden and Kylie Chisholm are joined by UpperEdge Chief Advisory Officer Len Riley and OG&E’s Director of Technology Strategy, Kevin Lagge, to break down OG&E’s five-year SAP S/4HANA and RISE transformation journey. Kevin shares candid lessons from the front lines around Phase 0 decision-making, executive alignment, negotiating early SAP RISE contracts, and managing a multi–systems integrator model. The conversation also explores how strong governance, built-in flexibility, and innovative use of generative AI helped OG&E stay on track, control costs, and ultimately thrive through change, all with the help of UpperEdge. A must-listen for IT leaders facing large-scale ERP, cloud, or digital transformation initiatives. Resources: WHITE PAPER - DrivingValue Through Discipline: How an Energy Company Reimagined Transformation withUpperEdge BLOG - PivotPoints: How Smart Clients Avoid Cost Overruns in Large IT Programs About the Show:Welcome to Insights for IT Negotiations, a podcast by UpperEdge, a leading IT sourcing, negotiation, and project execution advisory firm. Join John Belden, UpperEdge’s Chief Research and Strategy Officer, and Kylie Chisholm, UpperEdge’s Marketing Manager, every other week as they share valuable insights to help you maximize the value of your key IT relationships. For more innovative IT sourcing and risk mitigation insights, subscribe to the UpperEdge newsletter and follow UpperEdge on LinkedIn and Twitter.

    53 min
  2. 12/22/2025

    How Strong SLA Frameworks Drive Better MSP Performance

    Many organizations still focus heavily on SLA metrics like uptime and ticket closure rates, but those metrics alone do not create strong governance or long-term value. In this episode of Insights for IT Negotiations, Kylie Chisholm is joined by UpperEdge managed services experts Greg Hall and Ally Kuppens to discuss why the structure behind SLAs is often more important than the metrics themselves. The conversation explores how modern SLA frameworks support flexibility over long-term managed services agreements, allowing organizations to adapt as business priorities change. Greg and Ally walk through the four core components of an effective SLA framework: risk sharing, SLA adjustment rights, termination for cause, and continuous improvement. They explain how each one helps balance accountability with a healthy provider relationship. Listeners will come away with practical guidance on how to design SLAs that stay relevant over time, align to real business outcomes, and create shared incentives for continuous improvement in managed services relationships. Resources: BLOG - ⁠AI and the Future of Managed Services Contracts: Lessons from MSP Earnings Calls WEBINAR - AI in Managed Services: Bridging the Gap Between Expectations and Reality About the Show: Welcome to Insights for IT Negotiations, a podcast by UpperEdge, a leading IT sourcing, negotiation, and project-execution advisory firm. Join John Belden, UpperEdge’s Chief Research & Strategy Officer, and Kylie Chisholm, UpperEdge’s Marketing Manager, every other week as they share high-impact insights to help you maximize the value of your key IT relationships. Episode Chapters: 00:00 Why SLA Metrics Alone Fall Short01:02 Introducing the Guests and Today’s Topic02:57 Why Traditional SLA Approaches No Longer Work04:53 The Need for Flexible and Elastic SLA Structures05:47 What an SLA Framework Really Is06:56 The Four Core Components of an Effective SLA Framework07:04 Risk Sharing and Creating Real Provider Accountability09:40 How Risk Sharing Changes MSP Day to Day Behavior13:29 Managing Providers and Avoiding SLA Gaming15:33 SLA Adjustment Rights and Evolving Business Priorities16:02 KPIs vs CPIs and Why the Difference Matters17:59 How and When Clients Should Adjust SLAs21:21 Termination for Cause Rights and Healthy Governance24:32 Continuous Improvement That Actually Drives Value26:05 Aligning SLAs to Business Outcomes Over Time27:33 Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts

    29 min

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