Absolute AppSec

Ken Johnson and Seth Law
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A weekly podcast of all things application security related. Hosted by Ken Johnson and Seth Law.

  1. 1d ago

    Episode 334 - w/ Ryan Lloyd - Mobile Application Security

    In episode 334 of Absolute AppSec, hosts Ken Johnson and Seth Law interview Ryan Lloyd, Chief Product Officer at GuardSquare, to explore mobile application security and product management strategy. Lloyd details GuardSquare's evolution from the open-source Java optimizer ProGuard—which introduced basic name obfuscation—into a commercial suite offering multi-layered code hardening, control flow flattening, encryption, and automated runtime application self-protection (RASP) to detect dynamic tampering, hooking tools like Frida, and rooted devices. The discussion examines the product strategy behind balancing customer feature requests against core security engineering, emphasizing evidence-based decision-making over opinion. Addressing the broader mobile threat landscape, Lloyd highlights how attack vectors have expanded beyond financial services into retail, delivery, and loyalty apps, where attackers manipulate business logic or exploit open platform APIs like Android accessibility services for account takeovers. To track emerging threats, GuardSquare's research arm monitors reverse-engineering forums, academic compiler research, and dark web channels. Finally, the conversation evaluates how automated AI tools accelerate the velocity of reverse engineering and vulnerability discovery, underscoring that mobile security defenses must continually evolve to increase the time and cost required for attackers to tamper with client-side applications. Episode sponsored by GuardSquare (guardsquare.com).

  2. Sep 8

    Episode 333 - LLM Patching Flaws, AI Code Regressions, Bug Bounty Economy

    Sponsored by GuardSquare (guardsquare.com), the discussion of Episode 333 opens with an analysis of a 1Password academic paper evaluating how frontier LLMs perform at autonomous vulnerability patching. The research indicates that LLMs successfully generate functional, side-effect-free patches only 26% of the time, often introducing new security flaws, breaking application behavior, or hallucinating fixes due to a lack of environmental context and "correctness collapse". The hosts critique the industry push toward auto-remediation, arguing that automated patch generation fails to address root causes like noisy tooling or organizational culture issues, and they emphasize that human domain expertise remains necessary for reliable patching. Turning to real-world AI security risks, the episode examines a Snowflake vulnerability where an AI coding tool (GitHub Copilot Autofix) regressed a GitHub Actions workflow into an unauthenticated Remote Code Execution (RCE) flaw via command injection, which was subsequently discovered and validated within five days by Wiz's automated "Red Agent". Finally, the hosts cover Dark Reading reporting on how the AI-driven "vulnpocalypse" is repricing the bug bounty economy. As automated scanning harnesses double report volumes, companies face budget constraints that reduce payout amounts per finding, forcing organizations to narrow program scopes toward high-priority assets.

  3. Sep 1

    Episode 332 - AI SDLC, Call for Cyber Defense, Rumor as the Exploit

    In episode 332, the discussion focuses on how artificial intelligence is reshaping the Software Development Lifecycle (SDLC). The episode analyzes Anthropic's blog post regarding an "AI-native SDLC," evaluating its vision of replacing traditional development bottlenecks with AI workflows. The commentary critiques Anthropic's reliance on simple Markdown files for tracking development decisions, noting that replacing deterministic tools with probabilistic LLMs in core SDLC processes introduces significant reliability risks, context drift, and excessive token costs. The conversation turns to OpenAI's "Collective Call for Cyber Defense" initiative, examining its push for frontier AI model regulation and critiques of open-weight models, which are viewed as an effort to establish vendor lock-in. Exploring the concept of "Rumor as the Exploit," the discussion highlights how public mentions or minor disclosures of vulnerabilities now allow AI-driven testing harnesses to rapidly discover and generate working exploits across unmaintained software ecosystems. To counter this accelerated threat landscape, the episode evaluates defensive strategies, including runtime verification, reachability analysis, and cooling-off periods for new package releases, emphasizing that security defenders must move beyond thin wrapper solutions and build robust systems combining deterministic controls with model capabilities. Episode sponsored by Guardsquare (guardsquare.com).

  4. Aug 25

    Episode 331 - Being "Mythos" Ready, CRLF-Powered De-sync Attacks

    Sponsored by Guardsquare (guardsquare.com), Episode 331 focuses heavily on the growing role of AI agents in application security and how organizations should build and defend against agentic systems. Ken and Seth argue that effective AI security systems should combine deterministic tooling with the probabilistic reasoning of LLMs rather than handing an entire security workflow to a model. Deterministic steps can map repositories, identify dependencies, reconstruct code relationships, and narrow the areas requiring investigation, while LLMs provide reasoning and creativity where those capabilities add value. Preparing for AI-assisted attackers, emphasizing secure development practices, guardrails, sandboxing, pre-production testing, and faster detection and response. The episode also examines HTTP request smuggling and CRLF-based attacks, including how differences in request parsing between proxies and backend services can create authorization bypasses and other exploit chains. Seth and Ken emphasize identifying the critical vulnerability within an exploit chain and discuss how service-oriented architectures can increase risk when components interpret the same request differently. Finally, they question whether bug bounty programs adequately reward researchers for discovering complex, high-impact vulnerabilities, especially as AI agents increasingly automate vulnerability discovery.

  5. Aug 18

    Episode 330 - w/ Jeevan Singh - Vulnerability Jail

    In this special episode of Absolute AppSec, we cover a topic which started as a solution proposed by Rippling Security's Jeevan Singh: Vulnerability Jail. As Jeevan describes it: "In this new AI world, we have seen many more vulnerabilities, and we struggled to get Engineering to fix them all in a timely fashion. This changed when we created Vulnerability Jail. If any vulnerability goes over SLA, your team is placed in Jail, preventing them from merging PRs into the main/default branches. We implemented Vulnerability Jail, updated our SLAs and got buy-in from Eng Leadership for our new Vulnerability Management program. As a result, we have now fixed the same number of vulnerabilities in one month as the team did in the previous year. The speed is still accelerating."" What do we think of the Stick approach to Vuln Management? What are the solutions to the rapid production by AI as well as the vulnpocalypse, Alex Gaynor's term to describe the way that "new technological innovation enables (or indirectly results in) finding a very large number of vulnerabilities in pre-existing software, which renders all previous assumptions and beliefs about the volume of extant vulnerabilities incorrect." Will "Vulnerability Jail" save us from the vulnpocalypse? Episode sponsored by GuardSquare (guardsquare.com)

  6. Jul 28

    Episode 329 - AI exploitability, IDOR prevention, Smart TV Proxies

    In this episode, sponsored by GuardSquare (guardsquare.com), Ken Johnson and Seth Law discuss OpenAI's reported Hugging Face security incident, questioning whether the model demonstrated genuinely novel offensive capability or mostly chained known vulnerability patterns at high inference cost, while also considering the defense-contract and marketing angles around "dangerous" frontier models. The main technical discussion returns to AppSec fundamentals through an article on preventing IDOR, emphasizing authorization as a core control, the difficulty of role and tenant isolation in complex systems, and the need for framework-level patterns, typed IDs, tenant checks, and thorough authorization testing. They also cover Krebs' reporting on LG banning residential proxy SDKs from smart TV apps, explaining how free TV apps can turn consumer devices into proxy infrastructure and why IoT app ecosystems need stronger review. The episode closes with DEF CON logistics, Hacker Tracker updates, and upcoming guest plans.

  7. Jul 21

    Episode 328 - Wordpress RCE, Vuln Prioritization, AI memory exfiltration

    In episode 328 of Absolute AppSec, sponsored by GuardSquare (guardsquare.com), Seth and Ken start by highlighting a newly disclosed, pre-authentication WordPress core Remote Code Execution (RCE) vulnerability ("WP2Shell"). The core discussion centers on Alex Gaynor's article regarding the influx of AI-assisted vulnerability disclosures. Gaynor and the hosts argue that attempting to fix bugs case-by-case is a "fool's errand"; instead, engineering teams must eradicate entire vulnerability classes through systemic, framework-level safe functions (such as parameterized queries) and automated CI/CD guardrails. They dive into the complexities of bug prioritization—debating reachability analysis, runtime verification, and business asset criticality—while noting that metrics and measurement remain among the lowest-scoring activities in OWASP SAMM assessments. Later, Ken and Seth examine a "Memory Heist" attack on Claude AI where indirect prompt injection tricked the assistant into exfiltrating user memory and corporate details letter-by-letter through web navigation. They conclude that because transformer models were originally designed for next-token prediction rather than secure system boundaries, defending LLM architectures behaves more like stopping social engineering than traditional software fuzzing.

  8. Jul 14

    Episode 327 - w/Coffee, Chaos, and ProdSec - ASPM Consolidation, Vuln Prioritization

    In episode 327 of Absolute AppSec, co-hosts Ken Johnson and Seth Law present a highly anticipated quarterly crossover episode with Cameron and Kurt from the Coffee, Chaos, and ProdSec podcast. Sponsored by GuardSquare, the group begins with lighthearted banter about their personal footwear choices before tackling heavy architectural debates. The primary focus shifts to Application Security Posture Management (ASPM) consolidation. Cameron strongly advocates for utilizing ASPM as a distinct, single pane of glass dashboard to deduplicate vulnerabilities and streamline executive reporting by product suite. However, the hosts contrast this ideal against the messy reality of organizations dealing with a "Frankenstein" mix of loosely bootstrapped open-source scanning tools and competing vendor plugins. The discussion deepens into prioritization strategies amid a massive, AI-driven surge in vulnerability research that threatens to double annual CVE counts. Cameron and Kurt stress the necessity of shifting away from abstract CVSS scores toward custom, runtime-informed risk appetites and impact analysis—prioritizing the hardening of high-risk corporate assets over low-reachability internal flaws. They also examine the critical line separating standard software bugs from intentionally malicious open-source packages that target developer endpoint systems. Ultimately, the panel laments that AppSec teams are effectively functioning as corporate incident responders because Security Operations Center (SOC) analysts lack product-level insight. The episode concludes with a review of automated agent statistics and a fun look ahead to the future emergence of meta OWASP top-ten risk lists.

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A weekly podcast of all things application security related. Hosted by Ken Johnson and Seth Law.

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  • Creator
    Ken Johnson and Seth Law
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2026
  • Episodes
    334
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Show Website
    Absolute AppSec

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