Becoming Nature Podcast

Carina Lyall

This podcast explores roots and stories, belonging and becoming—a response to the times we live in. Through the lens of the human experience, we look to nature and the wild, to history's edges and future paths, to understand how we might walk more thoughtfully on this earth with all beings.

  1. 5d ago

    How to Speak on Climate with Rune Kier

    If you care about something, you don't always need to win with facts. You need to invite people in. Today's guest is anthropoligist Rune Kier.  One of the things that stayed with me from this conversation was the question of what happens when we stop treating communication as a battle to be won. Because when something matters deeply to us — the climate, the living world, the future, our communities — it can be tempting to reach for more facts. More evidence. A stronger argument. The perfect response to someone who doesn't see what we see. But facts don't exist outside of relationship. And people don't always need more data. Sometimes they need a story they can enter. A perspective they can recognise. A way of talking about what matters that doesn't require them to first agree with us. A few things from this conversation stayed with me: • People don't always need more data — they need a story they can feel. • "I'm concerned" can be enough to begin a conversation. • The right words are often the ones that sound like your life, rather than a debate. • Sharing what we notice can create more space than telling someone what they should think. That's a shift from persuasion to perspective. From "let me prove it" to "let me show you how I see it." And perhaps this is especially important when we are talking about something as complex and personal as our relationship with the living world. We don't all have to speak like experts. We can speak from where we stand. Maybe the most powerful thing we can say is not: "I'm certain." But: "I'm here. I noticed. And I care." Save this if you've ever felt caught between being accurate and being real.

  2. 5d ago ·  Bonus

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  3. Aug 18

    New with a K with Ryan James Kemp

    In this conversation, I sit down with Ryan James Kemp and explore the deep connections between humans and nature, the importance of relational and embodied awareness, and the paradigm shifts needed for a regenerative future. We dig into concepts like 'new with a K', relational systems, spiritual intelligence, and the infra crisis, offering profound insights into living in harmony with the Earth. And we talk about elders and have a few moments of stillness, which I love in these conversations. The conversation has swirled with me through the Summer. I've connected it to the old stories that I love so much, and Ryan brought language to something that I have not yet had. We explore: Relational systems and paradigmatic depth perception The concept of 'new with a K' and its implications for perception The importance of embodied awareness and relational intelligence The infra crisis and its roots in underlying systemic patterns The process of becoming and remembering our connection to nature The significance of relational language and sensing in spiritual practice The role of consciousness and perception in shaping the future The importance of creating conditions for life to thrive, not just fixing problems About Ryan Ryan James Kemp is a Relational Systems Futurist and founder of (re)Biz, the world's first systems thinking un/school. He is the creator of Liberating Futures Thinking and Relational Attunement, an emerging body of work exploring how the ways we perceive and relate shape the futures we create. Drawing from systems thinking, Indigenous knowledge, living systems, and organizational practice, Ryan works with leaders and institutions seeking to cultivate wiser leadership in an increasingly interconnected world.

  4. May 21

    Exploring the Enduring Wild: A Journey Through America's underdog lands with Joshua Jackson

    In this episode, Joshua shares the profound impact of exploring the so-called "leftover" lands—places long dismissed as lifeless or inconvenient—that he now sees as sacred and bursting with biodiversity. You'll discover how his immersive travels through desert dunes, salt flats, and sagebrush oceans rewrote his understanding of beauty and purpose in nature, and why these underdog landscapes deserve our attention and care. This conversation, as many of the others, was a long time in the making and I am truly grateful that it came together. His book is beautiful, and even more so the heart of his work. Relevance that goes way beyond the borders of the US. The deeper we got into the conversation, the clearer this line became: true beauty often whispers, not screams. It's a reminder that sometimes, we need to slow down — to really see; to be present.   Joshua Jackson is a writer and photographer whose work explores the overlooked public lands of the American west. His work has appeared in The Guardian, Los Angeles Times, High Country News, SFGATE, and Adventure Journal, among others. He has also been a featured guest on numerous podcasts exploring nature, science, and conservation. His first book, The Enduring Wild: A Journey into California's Public Lands (Heyday, 2025), winner of the Golden Poppy Award and a Foreword INDIES finalist, is both a love letter to these landscapes and a meditation on belonging and reciprocity. As founder of the Forgotten Lands Project, Josh gives keynote talks on public lands and place attachment, engages in storytelling collaborations with conservation organizations, and guides camping trips with the USAL Project that connect people directly to these fragile and inspiring landscapes. He lives with his wife and three children in the heart of Los Angeles.   Find him here: Website Instagram

  5. 11/21/2025

    Navigating Relationships in Therapy and Nature with Ruth Allen

    I sit down with Ruth Allen and we talk about her journey to writing 'Weathering', her insights into eco psychology, and the importance of relationality in therapy. We explore the complexities of nature connection, the role of language in articulating experiences, and the expectations surrounding nature therapy. We get into the need for humility in understanding our relationship with nature and the significance of staying present in both human and ecological relationships. We also get real about the act of commitment, the concept of weathering, and the relationship between decay and personal growth. Ruth shares how rocks can serve as a metaphor for understanding our own lives and the importance of being present in the moment, the challenges of facing decay and loneliness, while also emphasizing the value of commitment to living fully and authentically. And we dwell on the interconnectedness of life, death, and the natural world, encouraging listeners to embrace the complexities of existence.   About Ruth Allen Ruth is a writer/author, embodied psychotherapist and writing facilitator and mentor. She has written two books Weathering (Penguin Random House, 2024) and Grounded(Hachette, 2021) and is currently writing her third book publishing with PRH in 2027. She also writes and illustrates zines which she self-publishes to explore ideas and preoccupations that arise 'between book projects' and which push the boundaries of genre and form. Combining her doctorate in geology with innovative body-based and creative techniques drawing on a multitude of psychological teachings and influences, she offers therapy, mentoring, workshops, classes and adventure retreats – all practical, slow magic – designed to help others connect with their bodies, their words, and the rest of nature through depth-full enquiry and practices that extend our capacity to listen and nurture deep resonance with the world around us.

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This podcast explores roots and stories, belonging and becoming—a response to the times we live in. Through the lens of the human experience, we look to nature and the wild, to history's edges and future paths, to understand how we might walk more thoughtfully on this earth with all beings.

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