Inspired Nonprofit Leadership

Sarah Olivieri

This podcast is a place for nonprofit leaders to gain insights, tips, inspiration, and encouragement to unleash their potential.

  1. 1d ago

    Hiring Is Your Culture with Crystal FitzSimons

    Show Notes: Most nonprofit leaders treat retention as a problem to fix after the hire. The organizations that keep people for decades treat it as something they build into the hire itself. Sarah invited Crystal FitzSimons, the president of the Food Research and Action Center and someone who has been at FRAC for twenty-four years leading a team where staff routinely stay ten, twenty, and even forty years, to unpack what actually holds people in a nonprofit for the long term. This episode is for: Executive directors and nonprofit CEOs who are watching good people leave and unsure why Founders and EDs about to make a key hire and wondering how much process is actually worth it CEOs who have stopped sitting on interviews because if feels like too much time   What you'll hear: Why hiring is the single most important thing Crystal's forty-person team does, and how that belief changes the calendar The reason the CEO belongs in every final interview, even at forty people, even at five hundred What Crystal has kept, and what she has added, to sustain a culture where people stay through leadership transitions Why mission alignment is only the price of admission, and what actually keeps someone in the seat How Crystal is holding the team steady through a marathon-and-a-sprint policy season, and what that requires of a president How to think about a hiring process as a cultural transmission instead of a selection task   Crystal has been at FRAC for twenty-four years and just stepped into the president role. Her chief government affairs officer recently celebrated forty years with the organization. This is what genuine longevity looks like, and it is not luck. Related Links: Sign up for the The Inspired Nonprofit Leadership Newsletter Connect with Crystal on LinkedIn Check out the good work FARC is doing ❤️ And a big thank you to our caring sponsor Donorbox

    Hiring Is Your Culture with Crystal FitzSimons
  2. 4d ago

    Let Them Go Well with Sarah Olivieri

    Let Them Go Well with Sarah Olivieri The thought shows up quietly and then keeps coming back. Maybe this person is not right for us. Then it sits there for months while you look for more evidence and rehearse a conversation you never have. Meanwhile the person you are worried about is stuck in a job that is grinding on them too. In this solo episode, Sarah walks through how to know when it is time to let someone go, and how to do it in a way that leaves everyone intact. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why Sarah has never seen the instinct "I think I need to let this person go" turn out to be wrong, and what to do with that The two categories to check before you act, fit with the team and fit with the role, and why only one of them is fixable Why a bad hiring process is usually the thing that produced the conversation you are dreading How to turn a firing conversation into a quitting conversation, and when that serves both of you What nonprofit staff in particular need to hear before they can let themselves leave Who This Episode Is For • Leaders who have been carrying the same thought about the same person since spring • CEOs who keep reshuffling a role hoping it will fix a fit problem • Anyone who has avoided a hard conversation because they were afraid of how the person would react Practical takeaways • Run the two-category check. Is this about the team and your guiding principles, or is this about the role • Check your state's employment laws before you plan anything else • Have the clear conversation first. To be clear is to be kind, and simple, explicit, unjudgmental language is the whole skill • Decide your boundaries before you walk in. Last day, terms, severance, what is flexible and what is not • Do not surprise people with money. Be as generous as the timeline allows • Leave room to ask them what would make this transition feel best About Your Host, Sarah Olivieri Bold, strategic, and refreshingly human… Sarah Olivieri is the go-to expert for conversations on aligned leadership, outcome delegation, and sustainable growth. She brings wit, warmth, and real-world wisdom to mission-driven founders, visionary CEOs, and change-makers who want more clarity, more joy, and more results. Most leaders hit a wall when success depends on them holding it all together. Sarah helps them change that by redefining leadership around outcomes instead of activity, empowering teams to own results that scale and freeing leaders to focus on the vision that drives them. A former director of three nonprofits and founder of five businesses, she has a rare ability to spot opportunity where others see chaos, shift stuck patterns, and build organizations that support both legacy and life. Sarah leads with the same mindset that made her an award-winning sailor: iterate on what works, stay focused in the storm, and never forget the joy of the journey. Links Website: saraholivieri.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-olivieri Be sure to subscribe to Inspired Nonprofit Leadership so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! Let us know the topics or questions you would like to hear about in a future episode. You can do that and follow us on LinkedIn.

    Let Them Go Well with Sarah Olivieri
  3. Aug 20

    Distributed Leadership That Actually Works with Jocelyn Wyatt

    Show Notes Most nonprofit leaders already know they can't make every decision themselves. They've said it out loud in meetings and retreats. They want more decisions happening close to the work. Then a year later, they're still the bottleneck. Sarah sat down with Jocelyn Wyatt, CEO of Alight and co-founder of ideo.org, to unpack why distributed leadership stalls inside organizations that say they want it, and what it actually takes to make it real across a global team of over two thousand humanitarians. Here's what you'll hear: p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> How Alight's executive directors run their own countries: setting strategy, raising funding, structuring teams, and making the calls, with the global team in a support role instead of a headquarters role p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Why Jocelyn had to teach distributed leadership through every level of the organization, and what happened when she assumed proximity to the work would produce co-creation on its own p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> The shift from "human-centered design" to "co-creation" to just "proximity and agency," and why the language kept changing p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Safe Rides in the Nakivale refugee camp in Uganda: how Alight backed entrepreneurs who already wanted to run boda boda taxi businesses, and what that reveals about designing under constraint p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Why curiosity is the leadership trait Jocelyn most wants nonprofit CEOs to protect, and what happens to distributed leadership without it If this conversation sparked something, the thinking goes further. Sarah wrote a full reflection on why distributed leadership fails when it's announced instead of designed, and what actually makes it work. Read it here: [Why Distributed Leadership Fails (And What Actually Makes It Work)]. It's a standalone read, built for leaders who want to go deeper than the episode alone. Press play, and then read the article.

    Distributed Leadership That Actually Works with Jocelyn Wyatt
  4. Aug 17

    447: Take The Full Hour with Sarah Olivieri

    Lunch Is Leadership with Sarah Olivieri Lunch is the first thing to go. The calendar fills up, something has to give, and the hour in the middle of the day is the one that looks optional. Skip it enough times and you start making your biggest decisions of the week on an empty tank. In this solo episode, Sarah breaks down why lunch is a leadership decision, and exactly how to get it back on your calendar and keep it there. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why your blood sugar spikes during intense work even when you have not eaten, and what that does to your thinking What skipping the hour actually costs you in decision quality, which is the part of your job nobody else can do Why sharing a meal with one person, a new team member, a donor, a potential program partner, does something no meeting does What your team learns about work habits from watching whether or not you take the hour The recurring calendar block Sarah walks every leader she coaches through, live Who This Episode Is For • Leaders eating at the desk with one hand on the keyboard • CEOs whose afternoons feel foggier than their mornings and cannot figure out why • Leaders who want their team to stop working through lunch but have never modeled it themselves • Anyone who has told themselves that skipping lunch buys them more time Practical takeaways • Open your calendar today and create a recurring lunch block. Noon, one, eleven, whatever time you actually want to eat • Do not overthink the placement. Check it once a week, move it when it collides with something, and let it settle into a consistent time • Aim for the full hour. Sarah often splits hers, half an hour to eat and half an hour to do whatever she wants • Tell your team you are taking it, so the permission travels • Book one lunch this month with a person whose relationship matters to your organization About Your Host, Sarah Olivieri Bold, strategic, and refreshingly human…   Sarah Olivieri is the go-to expert for conversations on aligned leadership, outcome delegation, and sustainable growth. She brings wit, warmth, and real-world wisdom to mission-driven founders, visionary CEOs, and change-makers who want more clarity, more joy, and more results. Most leaders hit a wall when success depends on them holding it all together. Sarah helps them change that by redefining leadership around outcomes instead of activity, empowering teams to own results that scale and freeing leaders to focus on the vision that drives them. A former director of three nonprofits and founder of five businesses, she has a rare ability to spot opportunity where others see chaos, shift stuck patterns, and build organizations that support both legacy and life. Sarah leads with the same mindset that made her an award-winning sailor: iterate on what works, stay focused in the storm, and never forget the joy of the journey. Links Website: saraholivieri.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-olivieri Be sure to subscribe to Inspired Nonprofit Leadership so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! Let us know the topics or questions you would like to hear about in a future episode. You can do that and follow us on LinkedIn.

    447: Take The Full Hour with Sarah Olivieri
  5. Aug 13

    Build Fundraising That Compounds with Bill Crouch

    Reflections from host Sarah Olivieri ... Is Your Budget Killing Your Major Gifts Program? Many nonprofit leaders I talk to about major gifts describe some version of the same wall. They know the money is out there. They have heard the statistics about wealth transfer and donor-advised funds. They have sat through the trainings. And still, nothing moves. So they go looking for the missing skill. Better scripts. A new CRM. A workshop on how to ask. Here's what I often find when I see an organization trying to do major gifts but struggling. They're actually operating with systems and processes that work against major gifts. Systems like: annual fundraising strategies a schedule of campaigns an annual budget that rewards short-term gifting, which often comes at the expense of building the proper long-term relationship that leads to true, significant, sustainable funding from major donors Relationships operate on systems as well, but these are not the systems that relationships run on. When the wrong systems are in place, people rarely call out the system. They compensate with effort instead. In fundraising, that effort goes into activity that can be measured this quarter. Events. Appeals. Data entry. All of it visible, all of it defensible, and very little of it building the thing that tends to produce seven-figure gifts. A version of this came up on almost every strategy call I had this spring, which is why I was glad to sit down with Bill Crouch and talk it through. Bill has spent more than forty years inside this work, first as a college president raising private money in the shadow of a state flagship, now advising nonprofits nationally. He has lived this work and he has taught it, which is a rarer combination than it sounds. What the conversation gave me was not a new idea. It was a sharper explanation of why the patient approach holds up and why so few organizations are structured to survive the wait. The Annual Budget Is the Clock Everything Else Runs On Start with the operating budget, because everything downstream inherits its timeline. A relationship with a high capacity donor takes eighteen months. Sometimes three years. Bill spent eighteen months getting the first million dollar commitment for a giving group at his own college. Six weeks after that, he had five more, because the first person made calls to friends. Eighteen months of nothing, then five gifts in six weeks. Now put that curve inside an organization that closes its books every twelve months and asks the development office what it brought in. The gap is rarely a matter of discipline. The organization has committed to a reporting cycle that cannot see the work until it is already finished. So the work does not get funded, does not get protected on anyone's calendar, and does not survive the first cash flow scare in month seven. I write and talk a lot about how the layout of your budget shapes the decisions you make, and this is the most expensive version of that. A twelve-month frame makes long horizon relationship work look like underperformance. Then leaders respond to the number in front of them, which is the only responsible thing to do with the information the system gives them. The Desk Always Wins Bill described development work as needing two different capabilities. The technical side, sitting in the office getting things done. And the relational side, out in the world with people. Two skill sets, often two different humans. In a small shop, one person holds both. Ask that person what they did last week and you will hear about the database, the appeal, the grant report, the reconciliation. Not the coffee that took ninety minutes and produced no measurable outcome. The desk wins because the desk has deadlines. The relationship has none. This is a design flaw with a simple mechanism. Every task in the office has a due date attached to it and a visible consequence for missing it. Relationship building has neither. Give one person both jobs and the work with a deadline tends to consume the work without one, week after week, however much that person believes in the relational side. Which means the fix is structural. Protect the time in a way the person cannot trade away, or separate the roles. Telling someone to prioritize relationships more is asking them to out-discipline their own job description. The Mechanism, Named One line from that conversation has stayed with me: "That forces nonprofits to make short-term decisions that hurt long-term strategies." What I appreciate about this framing is that it locates the problem in the design rather than in the people executing it. The short-term decision is the rational one given the reporting cycle. Change the cycle, or build a revenue floor that takes the pressure off it, and the same team will often behave differently. Not much had to change in anyone's character. The structure stopped charging them for patience. Turnover Is What the Design Produces Forty years ago, the number one problem in nonprofit fundraising was development staff turnover. It is still the number one problem. Bill named four causes, and the timeline inside them is the part worth sitting with. It takes about sixteen months for the wrong hire to realize they do not want this job. It takes the supervisor about sixteen months to accept the same thing. So roughly a year and a half of relationship equity walks out the door, and the next person starts from zero with donors who have now been handed off twice. Run that loop three times and you have a decade of fundraising with no compounding whatsoever. The organization has been paying for major gifts capacity the entire time and never accumulating any. And the third cause Bill listed is the one nonprofits could fix tomorrow. The only way to get a meaningful raise in this field is to leave. We hand out cost of living adjustments and call it compensation strategy. Then we act surprised when the person holding four years of donor history takes a call from a recruiter. The turnover looks to me like an output. The design tends to produce it, and hiring better rarely changes what the design produces. If you want to see the same mechanism from another angle, emotional intelligence functions as retention infrastructure inside these teams, not as a soft add-on. Relationship Building Is a Practice You Can Teach Here is the part that gets skipped. The long horizon only pays off if something real happens inside it, and most organizations treat what happens in the room as a matter of charm. Some people have it. Some people do not. Hire for it and hope. Bill asks every high capacity person he meets about their favorite childhood toy. That is the whole thing. A simple question about a toy, and within a couple of minutes he is hearing what someone actually cares about, in their own words, before any case statement enters the conversation. I have been collecting strategic questions for years, and I recently started a separate collection just for get to know you questions. His goes at the top of that list. I asked my next podcast guest the same thing, and it changed the shape of the whole interview. Which tells you something about the mechanism. A good question is repeatable. It can be written down, taught, practiced, and handed to a nervous program director who has never asked anyone for money. Charm cannot. So when an organization decides that relationship building is a talent rather than a practice, it has quietly made that work impossible to train, impossible to delegate, and impossible to sustain past the tenure of whoever happened to be good at it. Bill also brings brain science into how he approaches this, and that tracks. Relationship building, brain science, and psychology go hand in hand. People give when they feel seen, heard, and valued, and there is a physiological story underneath that, not just a sentimental one. Which means the patient work is doing something specific in those eighteen months. Those months are where the ask becomes possible. Skip them and you are asking a stranger. Titles Are Structure Bill told a story about interviewing a researcher at a large university. She had put the institution in her will. She had been there sixteen years. She had identified and researched a donor who eventually gave a million dollars. No major gift officer had ever walked into her office to thank her. Nobody, in sixteen years. She stayed because her children had a tuition waiver. His response to this pattern is to give every person in the development operation the same title: "Every person in the development shop should have the same title. Director of Major Gifts." This makes sense given the setup. A title describes what the organization believes a role is for. When the researcher's title says researcher and the gift officer's title says major gifts, the org chart has already suggested who is doing the real fundraising and who is doing support work. Most people read that correctly and behave accordingly. I coach clients on titles constantly, usually while helping them build a first development department, and my rule is that people should have whatever title helps them do their job best. Bill's version goes further, and I think he is right about it. It does two things at once. Inside the organization, it tells the researcher and the data entry person that they matter, which is the same thing every donor is trying to find out about themselves. Outside the organization, it gives every one of those people a title they can carry into a room and use to build a real relationship. Give everyone the title that names the actual goal, and you have used structure to say something that a values statement on the wall never manages to say. Th

    Build Fundraising That Compounds with Bill Crouch
  6. Aug 10

    Ride the Wave Already Moving with Sarah Olivieri

    Ride the Wave Already Moving with Sarah Olivieri Strategic planning gets treated like a decision you make in a quiet room, then hand down to the team. So leaders sit down to "set direction," invent something new from scratch, and spend the next year trying to force it into existence. The resource burn is real. The traction usually isn't. In this solo episode, Sarah breaks down why strategy is mostly discovered rather than decided, and how to tell the difference before you commit the year to it. In This Episode, You'll Learn The two sides of strategy — fixing what's already running and growing what's new — and why they need different thinking Why deciding a brand-new direction is one of the most resource-intensive moves a leader can make, and when it's actually worth it What "sprouts" look like inside your organization and out in the wider world, and how to spot them early Two strategic questions Sarah keeps coming back to (including the Dan Sullivan three-year question) Why listening — to words, data, body language, and energy — is a core strategic skill, not a soft one Who This Episode Is For • Executive directors staring at a blank strategic plan template wondering where to start • CEOs who feel like every new direction is being pushed uphill • Leadership teams heading into a planning retreat and wanting to walk in with better questions • Anyone who has ever committed to a bold new strategy and watched it stall out by Q2 More on the subject • Before you decide a new direction, list what's already emerging inside your team, your programs, and your data • Run the Dan Sullivan question with your leadership team: if we were meeting in three years and everything had gone really well, what would need to have happened? • Ask the One Thing question: what's the one thing that, if solved, would make everything else easier or unnecessary? • Treat listening as a strategic activity, not a management courtesy — put time on the calendar for it About Your Host, Sarah Olivieri Bold, strategic, and refreshingly human… Sarah Olivieri is the go-to expert for conversations on aligned leadership, outcome delegation, and sustainable growth. She brings wit, warmth, and real-world wisdom to mission-driven founders, visionary CEOs, and change-makers who want more clarity, more joy, and more results. Most leaders hit a wall when success depends on them holding it all together. Sarah helps them change that by redefining leadership around outcomes instead of activity, empowering teams to own results that scale and freeing leaders to focus on the vision that drives them. A former director of three nonprofits and founder of five businesses, she has a rare ability to spot opportunity where others see chaos, shift stuck patterns, and build organizations that support both legacy and life. Sarah leads with the same mindset that made her an award-winning sailor: iterate on what works, stay focused in the storm, and never forget the joy of the journey. Links Website: saraholivieri.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-olivieri Be sure to subscribe to Inspired Nonprofit Leadership so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! Let us know the topics or questions you would like to hear about in a future episode. You can do that and follow us on LinkedIn.

  7. Aug 6

    Top Five Episodes, Ranked with Sarah Olivieri

    Top 5 Episodes Countdown Five episodes rose to the top over the last two years of this show. Trauma. Cash flow. Starting a nonprofit from scratch. Health equity. Organizational design. On the surface they have nothing in common. Underneath, all five are making the same argument, and none of them tell you to work harder.   Sarah pulled the download data on the last hundred episodes and ranked them across thirty-day, ninety-day, and lifetime windows. The same five came out on top every time. In this solo episode she counts them down and reads the lines that made each one land. In This Episode, What you'll hear: Dr. Melanie Gray on why all money is not good money, and how a grant your team can't deliver on manufactures overwhelm inside your own organization The capacity nobody budgets for, and why the strain almost always lands on your admin and finance staff Neil Shah on why net income hides your real financial story, and the number to watch instead Katerina Manoff on why grants have never worked for her organization, and what funds it instead Dr. Eugene Manley's one-sentence test for whether your program is actually equity work Pierre Berastain on nonprofits as civic laboratories, and what changes when you stop operating as society's backstop Why the sector that invented hospice, domestic violence shelters, and harm reduction gets asked to justify experiments that tech companies get praised for The through-line: your culture, your reporting, your funding model, and your experience of scarcity are all design choices. Design can be changed.   Every episode is linked below. Start anywhere. If you only have time for one, start with Pierre. If you're tired right now, start with Melanie. Linked Episodes Trauma Informed Leadership with Dr. Melanie Gray More Than Just Budgets: The Evolving Role of Nonprofit CFOs with Neil Shah How to Start and Run a High-Impact, Scalable Nonprofit with Katerina Manoff Leading An Equity Focused Nonprofit with Dr. Eugene Manley, Jr. Nonprofits Aren't Broken: The Design Is with Pierre Berastain About Your Host, Sarah Olivieri Bold, strategic, and refreshingly human… Sarah Olivieri is the go-to expert for conversations on aligned leadership, outcome delegation, and sustainable growth. She brings wit, warmth, and real-world wisdom to mission-driven founders, visionary CEOs, and change-makers who want more clarity, more joy, and more results. Most leaders hit a wall when success depends on them holding it all together. Sarah helps them change that by redefining leadership around outcomes instead of activity, empowering teams to own results that scale and freeing leaders to focus on the vision that drives them. A former director of three nonprofits and founder of five businesses, she has a rare ability to spot opportunity where others see chaos, shift stuck patterns, and build organizations that support both legacy and life. Sarah leads with the same mindset that made her an award-winning sailor: iterate on what works, stay focused in the storm, and never forget the joy of the journey.   Links Website: saraholivieri.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-olivieri Be sure to subscribe to Inspired Nonprofit Leadership so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! Let us know the topics or questions you would like to hear about in a future episode. You can do that and follow us on LinkedIn.

    Top Five Episodes, Ranked with Sarah Olivieri
  8. Aug 2

    Build Programs That Stick with Sarah Olivieri

    Build Programs That Stick with Sarah Olivieri Most programs are built middle-out. Someone has an idea for a workshop, a curriculum, a service, and the design starts with the activities. The end result is fuzzy, the beginning state is assumed, and the middle is a stack of sessions that made sense in the moment. Then clients start drifting between steps, going quiet, and finishing without really finishing. In this solo episode, Sarah walks through how to design a program on purpose so it actually delivers the change it promises. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why every program design starts at the end, and how to define the exact state a client is in when they're done How to define the client's beginning state, including who is a good fit and who is not How to map the emotional journey alongside the operational steps, so anxious moments get support and energized moments get testimonials How to close the handoff gaps where clients quietly fall through the cracks Why front-loading a quick win matters more for confidence than for the outcome itself Who This Episode Is For • Executive directors and program directors redesigning a service that is not landing the way it should • Nonprofit CEOs whose programs get good feedback but weak completion or weak results • Leaders launching a new offering who want to design it right the first time • Anyone who has ever handed a client off to a colleague and watched them disappear Practical takeaways • Write the client's end state in one clean sentence before you touch the middle • Add an emotional journey layer to your program map, and name the anxious and energized moments by name • Pick one handoff in your current program this week and add a warm handoff or a redundancy so nobody falls through • Move one small, satisfying win to the very front of your program, even if it is not the logical first step About Your Host, Sarah Olivieri Bold, strategic, and refreshingly human… Sarah Olivieri is the go-to expert for conversations on aligned leadership, outcome delegation, and sustainable growth. She brings wit, warmth, and real-world wisdom to mission-driven founders, visionary CEOs, and change-makers who want more clarity, more joy, and more results. Most leaders hit a wall when success depends on them holding it all together. Sarah helps them change that by redefining leadership around outcomes instead of activity, empowering teams to own results that scale and freeing leaders to focus on the vision that drives them. A former director of three nonprofits and founder of five businesses, she has a rare ability to spot opportunity where others see chaos, shift stuck patterns, and build organizations that support both legacy and life. Sarah leads with the same mindset that made her an award-winning sailor: iterate on what works, stay focused in the storm, and never forget the joy of the journey. Links Website: saraholivieri.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-olivieri Be sure to subscribe to Inspired Nonprofit Leadership so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! Let us know the topics or questions you would like to hear about in a future episode. You can do that and follow us on LinkedIn.

    Build Programs That Stick with Sarah Olivieri
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