Melissa & Lori Love Literacy ® | Science of Reading for Teachers

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Melissa & Lori Love Literacy® is a science of reading podcast for teachers who want to understand how reading really works and what that means for classroom instruction. Each month, we explore key topics in the science of reading and literacy instruction through thoughtful conversations with researchers, authors, and classroom teachers who are putting reading research into practice. Melissa & Lori are your classroom-next-door teacher friends turned podcasters, learning alongside you and asking the same questions teachers everywhere are asking: What does the research say about reading? What does strong literacy instruction actually look like in real classrooms? And how can teachers apply the science of reading in ways that make sense for their students? Through conversations with leading literacy experts and educators from classrooms across the globe, Melissa & Lori help bridge the gap between reading research and day-to-day teaching. Whether you are a classroom teacher, literacy coach, interventionist, or school leader, you’ll find clear explanations of science of reading concepts and practical insights for your classroom, school, or district. Topics across the podcast align to science of reading research, including phonemic awareness, phonics, fluency, vocabulary, comprehension, writing, and spelling, along with broader conversations about reading development, multi-tiered systems of support, and supporting struggling readers. If you care about strong reading instruction, evidence-based literacy practices, and helping every student become a successful reader, you’re in the right place.

  1. The Research on Vocabulary Instruction with Margaret McKeown

    3D AGO

    The Research on Vocabulary Instruction with Margaret McKeown

    Episode 250 In this episode, we’re joined by Margaret McKeown, a leading researcher in vocabulary and language development, to explore what effective vocabulary instruction really looks like in practice. Margaret helps us unpack common misconceptions about vocabulary teaching, including the pressure to ensure students “master” every word and the belief that vocabulary instruction must always be formal and pre-planned. She explains the power of informal instruction words “running through the classroom” and why repeated exposure over time supports deep word learning. We also dive into: What learning words in context actually means (and what it doesn’t)How to think about vocabulary tiers without treating them like a rulebookWhen vocabulary should be taught (before, during, or after reading)The connection between vocabulary knowledge and comprehensionBetter ways to assess vocabulary beyond traditional testsMargaret reminds us that vocabulary learning is more like climbing a ladder than crossing a finish line. Not every word requires deep instruction, but thoughtful, strategic choices can make a meaningful impact on comprehension. If vocabulary instruction has ever felt overwhelming, this conversation offers clarity, reassurance, and practical insight for making it manageable and effective. If you’re enjoying Melissa & Lori Love Literacy, bring us to your school or event. We offer keynotes, presentations, and live podcast-style sessions focused on practical, science of reading–aligned strategies aligned to our podcast and book, The Literacy 50. Email LiteracyPodcast@greatminds.org to learn more. Get free resources and updates at literacypodcast.com.

    52 min
  2. Small-Group Interventions That Actually Work with Kerry Cusick & Erin Sharon

    MAR 27

    Small-Group Interventions That Actually Work with Kerry Cusick & Erin Sharon

    Episode 248 There’s a saying we hear often in literacy work: you don’t want to try to intervene your way out of a Tier 1 problem. Real change happens when classroom instruction and small-group support are aligned. In this episode, we’re joined by Kerry Cusick and Erin Sharon, two reading interventionists, who share how aligning Tier 1 instruction with the small-group work they lead every day transformed both their approach and student outcomes. While their work lives in intervention, the routines and decision-making they describe are just as relevant for classroom teachers running small groups. In this conversation, we explore: What small-group intervention looked like before alignment and what had to changeHow clearer, more consistent Tier 1 instruction reshaped small-group teachingWhat responsive small-group lessons look like when they’re built around student needHow phonemic awareness, phonics, fluency, and meaning work together in small groupsWhy fluency matters and how routines move students from sounds to connected textKerry and Erin share practical examples from their MTSS work, including how they use data to form groups, align with classroom scope and sequence, and design small-group instruction that builds accuracy, automaticity, and meaning. RESOURCES Small-Group Instruction Listening GuideBuilding Fluency with POSSUM with Melissa Orkin and Maryanne Wolf (podcast episode)Reading Universe Read Works Read Live Roll & ReadsUFLI KindergartenUFLI Grade 1 Neuhaus Education Center Rapid Recognition Chart Generator Crafting MindsIf you’re enjoying Melissa & Lori Love Literacy, bring us to your school or event. We offer keynotes, presentations, and live podcast-style sessions focused on practical, science of reading–aligned strategies aligned to our podcast and book, The Literacy 50. Email LiteracyPodcast@greatminds.org to learn more. Get free resources and updates at literacypodcast.com.

    54 min
  3. [Listen Again] Maximizing Small-Group Reading Instruction

    MAR 20

    [Listen Again] Maximizing Small-Group Reading Instruction

    Episode 143  This conversation remains one of our most downloaded episodes and for good reason. As we focus this month on small-group instruction, we’re revisiting this important discussion with a team of authors who published the article Maximizing Small-Group Reading Instruction. In this episode, we explore:  • Why small-group reading instruction has been so widely adopted  • What the research actually says about its effectiveness  • Common misconceptions about small-group time  • What makes small-group instruction purposeful and impactful If you’re rethinking how small-group time fits within strong Tier 1 instruction, or wondering how to make those minutes count, this episode offers research-informed clarity. Resources Maximizing Small-Group Reading Instruction Dr. Neena Saha’s Reading Research Recap of this research What Should Small Group Instruction Look Like? Tim Shanahan Reinterpreting the development of reading skills Scott Paris Applying New Visions of Reading Development in Today's Classrooms Kay Stahl Text Project with Freddy Hiebert Choice Words: How Our Language Affects Our Children’s Learning by Peter JohnstonIf you’re enjoying Melissa & Lori Love Literacy, bring us to your school or event. We offer keynotes, presentations, and live podcast-style sessions focused on practical, science of reading–aligned strategies aligned to our podcast and book, The Literacy 50. Email LiteracyPodcast@greatminds.org to learn more. Get free resources and updates at literacypodcast.com.

    1h 6m
  4. Small Groups, Big Results with Julia Lindsey

    MAR 13

    Small Groups, Big Results with Julia Lindsey

    Episode 247 Small-group instruction can feel powerful and overwhelming at the same time. Questions about grouping, time, routines, and impact come up constantly. In this episode, we’re joined by Julia Lindsey, author of Small Groups, Big Results, to talk about what actually makes small-group instruction work. Julia helps break down small groups into manageable, intentional practices that don’t require more time or complexity, just clearer purpose. In this conversation, we discuss: Why small groups don’t need to be long to have a big impactHow flexible, needs-based grouping supports student growthThe role of immediate, specific feedback in small-group readingPractical routines teachers can use right awayHow small-group instruction connects to Tier 1 teachingWhether you’re new to small groups or looking to refine your approach, Julia offers clarity, research, and realistic guidance. RESOURCES Small-Group Instruction Listening GuideSmall Groups, Big Results: Evidence-Based Routines to Get Every Child Reading by Julia Lindsey Reading Above the Fray: Reliable, Research-Based Routines for Developing Decoding Skills by Julia LindseyOther podcast episodes with Julia Lindsey: Science of Reading Part 1: Decodable Texts, Sound Walls, & the Aim of Early LiteracyScience of Reading Part 2: Decodable Texts, Sound Walls, & the Aim of Early LiteracyResearch-Based Routines for Developing Decoding Skills with Julia LindseyReaders' Theater: Easy, Effective, & Fun! with Chase YoungUFLI Foundations Toolbox FCRR Student Center ActivitiesIf you’re enjoying Melissa & Lori Love Literacy, bring us to your school or event. We offer keynotes, presentations, and live podcast-style sessions focused on practical, science of reading–aligned strategies aligned to our podcast and book, The Literacy 50. Email LiteracyPodcast@greatminds.org to learn more. Get free resources and updates at literacypodcast.com.

    54 min
  5. Top Fluency Strategies Teachers Love from K–8 Classrooms

    FEB 20

    Top Fluency Strategies Teachers Love from K–8 Classrooms

    Episode 246 Fluency looks different across grade levels, but it always matters. In this special mashup episode, Melissa and Lori bring together voices from seven classroom teachers, spanning first grade through eighth grade, to show how fluency comes to life in real classrooms. Each teacher shares a best practice they use to support accuracy, automaticity, and expression, always grounded in meaningful reading. You’ll hear about a range of approaches, including: Songs, shared reading, and read-alouds in early gradesPartner reading routines that build accountability and supportPerformance-based practices like Readers’ TheaterUsing oral reading as assessment and feedbackStructuring small groups to support different fluency needsThis episode is full of practical ideas, classroom insight, and teacher wisdom, whether you’re teaching in the primary grades or supporting older readers. Resources:  Check out our Fluency Listening Guide for links to all of the episodes! Featured Episodes: First Steps to Fluency: How Young Learners Become Independent Readers with Virginia Quinn-Mooney Improving Student Reading Growth in Months with Fluency Instruction and Practice with Lorraine Griffith and Lindsay Kemeny A Classroom Fluency Protocol That Works with Aaron GrossmanBaltimore Secondary Literacy Teachers Talk Fluency with Tanisha Dasmunshi, Emily Jaskowski, and Emery Uwimana Watch Virginia Teach Fluency in this video Let’s bring back the magic of song by Tim RasinskiLindsay Kemeny YouTubePartner Reading with Paragraph Shrinking3 Phases for Fluency by Aaron GrossmanTim Rasinski's Multidimensional Fluency RubricAaron's website: Just Two Teachers (click Readers Theater for links to scripts!)Chase Young's Readers Theater scripts If you’re enjoying Melissa & Lori Love Literacy, bring us to your school or event. We offer keynotes, presentations, and live podcast-style sessions focused on practical, science of reading–aligned strategies aligned to our podcast and book, The Literacy 50. Email LiteracyPodcast@greatminds.org to learn more. Get free resources and updates at literacypodcast.com.

    51 min
  6. Read Like Us: Building Fluency Through Repeated Reading & Challenging Texts with Jake Downs & Chase Young

    FEB 6

    Read Like Us: Building Fluency Through Repeated Reading & Challenging Texts with Jake Downs & Chase Young

    Episode 245 In this episode, Melissa and Lori are joined by researchers Jake Downs and Chase Young to discuss Read Like Us, a research-backed fluency routine designed to help students reread challenging texts with purpose. Jake and Chase share the findings from their recent study, explain how the routine works in real classrooms, and explore why fluency grows when students have multiple supported opportunities to read connected text. The conversation unpacks: what makes Read Like Us different from traditional repeated reading approaches,how wide reading fits alongside repeated reading,and why text choice plays such a critical role in fluency development.You’ll also hear why the study showed especially strong results for fourth-grade readers and how teachers can think about applying this work across grade levels. This episode offers both a clear explanation of the research and practical insights teachers can use as they plan fluency instruction that supports real reading where skills come together in text.  Resources: Grab your Read Like UsTexts Research Article: "Promoting Fluency Through Challenge: Repeated Reading With Texts of Varying Complexity"Fluency Listening GuideContact Chase Young at https://lfcreading.com/podcast with your questions! If you’re enjoying Melissa & Lori Love Literacy, bring us to your school or event. We offer keynotes, presentations, and live podcast-style sessions focused on practical, science of reading–aligned strategies aligned to our podcast and book, The Literacy 50. Email LiteracyPodcast@greatminds.org to learn more. Get free resources and updates at literacypodcast.com.

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Melissa & Lori Love Literacy® is a science of reading podcast for teachers who want to understand how reading really works and what that means for classroom instruction. Each month, we explore key topics in the science of reading and literacy instruction through thoughtful conversations with researchers, authors, and classroom teachers who are putting reading research into practice. Melissa & Lori are your classroom-next-door teacher friends turned podcasters, learning alongside you and asking the same questions teachers everywhere are asking: What does the research say about reading? What does strong literacy instruction actually look like in real classrooms? And how can teachers apply the science of reading in ways that make sense for their students? Through conversations with leading literacy experts and educators from classrooms across the globe, Melissa & Lori help bridge the gap between reading research and day-to-day teaching. Whether you are a classroom teacher, literacy coach, interventionist, or school leader, you’ll find clear explanations of science of reading concepts and practical insights for your classroom, school, or district. Topics across the podcast align to science of reading research, including phonemic awareness, phonics, fluency, vocabulary, comprehension, writing, and spelling, along with broader conversations about reading development, multi-tiered systems of support, and supporting struggling readers. If you care about strong reading instruction, evidence-based literacy practices, and helping every student become a successful reader, you’re in the right place.

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