Oh, My Health...There Is Hope!

Jana Short

Welcome to Oh My Health There Is Hope. I'm Jana Short your host, founder of best holistic life and health influencers mastermind. I'm also a wellness coach and NLP practitioner. I'll be talking to fellow health experts major influencers and extraordinary people to discuss holistic health, wellness and sharing their incredible stories of hope with you together we are changing the world one expert at a time.

  1. 1d ago

    Maureen Meehan's Journey: From Judge to Award-Winning Rom-Com Filmmaker

    "Creating a production company and filming a movie is not for the faint of heart." - Maureen Anne Meehan   Maureen Anne Meehan is a distinguished mental health court judge in Orange County, California, and a prolific author with an impressive repertoire of 25 novels. Her literary works range from 19 legal thrillers starring a compelling, strong female protagonist to a series of dating novels, including the successful "60 Dates in Six Months," which is now transitioning into a streaming rom-com. Maureen is passionate about her legal work and her writing. Her legal experience enriches her storytelling, which often explores a true crime, drawing on real-life cases to craft engrossing narratives.   Episode Summary: Welcome to another enlightening episode of "Oh, My Health… There Is Hope," where host Jana Short engages in an intriguing conversation with Maureen Anne Meehan, a skilled mental health court judge and accomplished novelist from Orange County, California. This episode offers a rich exploration of Maureen's dual career, highlighting not only the judicial realm she navigates daily but also her passion for creating engaging narratives that captivate her readers. In this episode, Maureen reveals how her profound experiences have fed into her dynamic writing journey. Inspired by a personal tragedy, she transformed her grief into creativity, authoring the Mary McIntosh legal thrillers centered on formidable female characters and true crime stories. Her transition from novels to film is significant, with the upcoming release of "60 Dates in Six Months," a rom-com that combines levity with personal hardship—the latter epitomized by Maureen's own experience dating after profound loss, even as she recovers from a debilitating injury. This conversation is an invitation into Maureen's world of true crime narrative crafting and her unique portrayal of romance that readers and viewers love.   Key Takeaways: Maureen's blending of experiences as a mental health court judge and as a fiction writer provides a unique foundation for her legal thrillers and true-crime narratives. The premier of her film, "60 Dates in Six Months," proves that real life can inspire fiction that resonates on screen, a testament to her storytelling prowess. Her journey from book author to film producer underscores the daunting yet rewarding process of bringing stories from page to screen. Maureen's fictional works, grounded in true crime, offer a gripping yet authentic exploration of crime and justice. She emphasizes the significance of maintaining realism in storytelling to highlight societal issues and provide thoughtful entertainment.   Resources: https://maureenannemeehan.com/book/ @‌60Datesinsixmonths https://facebookcom/MaureenMeehan   Get a free subscription to the Best Holistic Life Magazine, one of the fastest-growing independent magazines centered around holistic living: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine.   Get in touch with Jana and listen to more podcasts: https://www.janashort.com/ Show Music 'Hold On' by Amy Gerhartz: https://www.amygerhartz.com/music. Grab your FREE gift today: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine Connect with Jana Short: https://www.janashort.com/contact/

    25 min
  2. 1d ago ·  Bonus

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  3. Jun 6

    Empowering Beauty: Dr. Tracy's Innovative Microbiome Skincare Solutions

    "Once you use products that target the microbiome, you're then treating everything else that comes along with it." -Dr. Tracey   Dr. Tracey Hicks-Kearse is a renowned chemical engineer and entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience in product development and marketing. As a trailblazer in the beauty industry, she founded a product development consultancy and a multi-use beauty brand, a care, which focuses on rebalancing the microbiome for healthier skin and scalp. Dr. Tracey's expertise and passion stem from a family lineage of entrepreneurs, which drives her to create innovative solutions that meet consumers' needs.   Episode Summary: In this captivating episode of the "Oh My Health, There is Hope" podcast, host Jana Short welcomes the dynamic Dr. Tracey Hicks-Kearse, an accomplished chemical engineer and entrepreneur passionate about skincare and beauty. Throughout the episode, Dr. Tracey shares her journey and vision for a care brand, her innovative beauty line dedicated to rebalancing the microbiome. Dive into the conversation and discover how rebalancing the skin's microbiome can lead to healthier, more vibrant skin and hair. The discussion sheds light on Dr. Tracey's motivation for creating her unique products, which target various skin conditions, including acne, psoriasis, and eczema. She also explores the necessity of using natural, sustainable ingredients to improve skin health and benefit the environment. Empowering women in business, she offers entrepreneurial advice drawn from her experience and emphasizes the importance of following one's passion and promoting sustainable beauty solutions.   Key Takeaways: Dr. Tracey Hicks-Kearse focuses on rebalancing the microbiome to promote healthy skin and scalp through her brand, AcARRE. The microbiome consists of beneficial and harmful bacteria, and an imbalance can lead to skin and scalp issues such as psoriasis and acne. Dr. Tracey emphasizes using natural, plant-based ingredients sourced directly to ensure high potency and sustainability in her products. Entrepreneurship advice: "Do the research and seek mentorship if you have a great idea, regardless of the fear of failure." The brand, Care, seeks to empower women by building communities and offering effective skincare solutions.   Resources: @‌dr.traceyonthego @‌acarrebeauty @‌ready_to_launch https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-tracey-hicks-kearse-dba-8247278 www.acarre.co www.readytolaunchpd.com     Get a free subscription to the Best Holistic Life Magazine, one of the fastest-growing independent magazines centered around holistic living: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine.   Get in touch with Jana and listen to more podcasts: https://www.janashort.com/ Show Music 'Hold On' by Amy Gerhartz: https://www.amygerhartz.com/music. Grab your FREE gift today: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine Connect with Jana Short: https://www.janashort.com/contact/

    23 min
  4. May 30

    Unlocking Better Sleep and Connection Through Breathwork with Tim Thomas

    "Our lives are shaped by two moments: the five minutes before sleep and the five minutes after waking. Most people poison both." -Tim Thomas   Tim Thomas is a former member of the special forces turned healer. He is the founder of Breathwork in Bed, where he focuses on facilitating high-quality deep sleep for clients through innovative breathing techniques. Tim is highly committed to veteran recovery, having raised over $1.3 million for charity. Drawing from personal experiences with PTSD, Tim has developed impactful veteran recovery programs in Australia, addressing key issues like isolation and fatigue.   Episode Summary: In this enlightening episode of "All My Health, There Is Hope," host Jana Short welcomes Tim Thomas, a distinguished guest equipped with a unique blend of military background and healing expertise. Tim shares his profound journey from a high-stress military career to becoming a healer and advocate for better sleep and mental health, with a special focus on veteran support. Throughout the episode, Tim details his personal battle with PTSD and the challenges of uncovering the true power of breathwork. He shares foundational insights into how breathwork can alleviate chronic sleep problems, reduce stress, and foster a more connected life. Demystifying the effects of isolation, Tim's narrative illustrates how his innovative Breathwork in Bed app can rebuild one's daily rhythm through guided techniques. This app also underscores the importance of addressing fatigue and promoting healing in both veterans and the broader community.   Key Takeaways: Tim Thomas emphasizes that sleep and breathwork can significantly improve mental health, especially for veterans with PTSD. Healing and recovery can be accelerated by breaking the cycle of isolation and improving quality of sleep. Tim's app, Breathwork in Bed, is designed to easily incorporate powerful breathwork practices into daily life for improved sleep. Guided breathwork is a potent tool accessible to anyone, comparable to having a personal medicine chest. The shared experiences of veterans and the importance of community and support are underlined as key elements for healing.   Resources: https://breathworkinbed.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/breathworkinbed/ https://www.facebook.com/breathworkinbed https://www.linkedin.com/in/bettersleepbetterworld/   For immediate and natural sleep improvement, here's Tim's company's online resource called - The 'Breathwork in Bed' app. The app will guide you to sleep in peace and wake up with power. Enjoy it for 28 days of great sleep for free. Apple link: Google Link:   Get a free subscription to the Best Holistic Life Magazine, one of the fastest-growing independent magazines centered around holistic living: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine.   Get in touch with Jana and listen to more podcasts: https://www.janashort.com/ Show Music 'Hold On' by Amy Gerhartz: https://www.amygerhartz.com/music. Grab your FREE gift today: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine Connect with Jana Short: https://www.janashort.com/contact/

    28 min
  5. May 23

    Unlocking Healing Potential: The Power of Functional Medicine with Dr. Karyn Shanks

    "Everyone can heal, and the best medicine comes from within. Always." – Dr. Karyn Shanks   Dr. Karyn Shanks is a distinguished physician, author, and teacher specializing in helping individuals recover their lives from chronic illnesses. She combines science and holistic approaches in her practice, focusing on epigenetics, neuroplasticity, functional medicine, and transformational psychology. Dr. Shanks is recognized for her profound understanding of human potential and healing and has made significant contributions through her written works, including "Unbroken: Reclaim Your Wholeness" and "Healing."   Episode Summary: Welcome to the latest episode of "Oh, My Health, There Is Hope," hosted by Jana Short. In this episode, Dr. Karyn Shanks delves into the intricate world of chronic illness and the body's incredible capacity for healing. With a focus on epigenetics and neuroplasticity, Dr. Shanks highlights how these scientific disciplines reveal our ability to transform and heal ourselves. Jana Short and Dr. Shanks explore how understanding one's genetic makeup and psychology can significantly alter the trajectory of one's health. Throughout the conversation, they discuss the limitations of conventional medicine and the empowering potential of functional medicine. Dr. Shanks emphasizes that chronic illness is not a fixed condition but rather a state that can be altered by addressing its foundational causes. Key topics include the role of lifestyle in genetic expression, the impact of unprocessed trauma on the body, and the importance of a holistic approach to healthcare. The insights offered in this episode are intended to guide listeners toward a path of hope and self-healing.   Key Takeaways: Epigenetics and neuroplasticity are pivotal in understanding and activating the body's potential to heal from within. Chronic illness is not necessarily a fixed state but a dynamic condition that can be influenced through various lifestyle adjustments. Repressed emotions can lead to physical health issues; therefore, processing and understanding emotions is crucial for healing. Functional medicine offers a more personalized and holistic view of patient care, emphasizing the connection between mind, body, and spirit. Healthcare should prioritize understanding individual stories and conditions, rather than adhering strictly to conventional disease models.   Resources: Website: https://www.karynshanksmd.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KarynShanksMD/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karynshanksmd/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karyn-shanks-md-9ba2a520/     Get a free subscription to the Best Holistic Life Magazine, one of the fastest-growing independent magazines centered around holistic living: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine.   Get in touch with Jana and listen to more podcasts: https://www.janashort.com/ Show Music 'Hold On' by Amy Gerhartz: https://www.amygerhartz.com/music. Grab your FREE gift today: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine Connect with Jana Short: https://www.janashort.com/contact/

    31 min
  6. May 16

    Transforming Trauma into Triumph: Dr. Jalali's Journey and Insights

    "The fire that burns you can also mold you into something bigger and better than you have imagined." - Dr. Shahrzad Jalali   Dr. Shahrzad Jalali is a highly acclaimed clinical psychologist, executive coach, trauma expert, and author. Known for her groundbreaking work in blending science and soul, Dr. Jalali helps high achievers and women in transition transform emotional pain into growth. As the founder of Align Remedy and Dr. Jolly and Associates, she adopts cutting-edge, trauma-informed approaches with a deeply human perspective, helping people move from coping to true transformation. Additionally, Dr. Jalali is the author of "The Fire That Makes Us," a book that explores personal and psychological growth through storytelling and therapeutic insights.   Episode Summary: In this episode of "Oh My Health... There Is Hope," host Jana Short welcomes Dr. Shahrzad Jalali, a trailblazer in the field of psychological healing and transformation. Dr. Jalali shares insights drawn from her life story and professional experiences, revealing how personal trauma can be a powerful catalyst for growth. The conversation pivots around her book "The Fire That Makes Us" and projects like Regulate to Rise, which focuses on nervous system regulation as a pathway to personal growth and fulfillment. This episode is rich with motivational narratives and practical advice, offering profound insights into overcoming life's adversities. Dr. Jalali discusses how crucial it is to identify and transform limiting beliefs, emphasizing the importance of feeling and understanding one's emotions to achieve genuine change. She shares her journey from Iran to the United States, recounting her personal experiences with trauma and the powerful story behind her Persian name, which inspired her life's mission. The episode offers strategies for dealing with life's challenges, providing valuable guidance for those feeling unfulfilled despite achieving conventional success. Through these narratives, Dr. Jalali invites listeners to navigate their internal world, recognize disempowering patterns, and embrace a fulfilling life aligned with their authentic self.   Key Takeaways: Transformative Power of Story: Dr. Jalali illustrates how narrative therapy can help individuals reclaim their story, shifting from victimhood to survival and empowerment. Identifying Limiting Beliefs: Understanding and transforming deep-seated beliefs are crucial steps to personal development and emotional freedom. Importance of Feeling Emotions: Embracing all emotions, even the negative ones, helps to guide individuals through life and lead to authentic transformation. Nervous System Regulation: The "Regulate to Rise" program is central to helping individuals control emotional responses and achieve a balanced life. Continual Growth: The journey of self-discovery and healing is ongoing, with new challenges and insights at every stage of life.   Resources: https://alignremedy.com/ https://www.instagram.com/alignremedy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/shahrzad-jalali-psyd-2b547320/   ✨ Enjoying the show? Stay inspired long after the episode ends! Jana is gifting you free subscriptions to Ageless Living Magazine and Best Holistic Life Magazine—two of the fastest-growing publications dedicated to holistic health, personal growth, and living your most vibrant life. Inside, you'll find powerful stories, expert insights, and practical tools to help you thrive—mind, body, and soul. 📰 Claim your free Best Holistic Life magazine and start reading today: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine 🎁 Plus, grab your free Ageless Living Magazine here: https://bestholisticlife.info/AgelessLivingMagazineLosAngeles   Connect with Jana and explore more episodes: https://www.janashort.com/ https://www.janashort.com/contact/   🎶 Show Music: "Hold On" by Amy Gerhartz https://www.amygerhartz.com/music

    27 min
  7. May 9

    Empowering Disabled Individuals: Advocating for Opportunities and Legal Support with Zylo Marshall

    "There are a lot of people out there with disabilities who have a hard time understanding the world, unfortunately." – Zylo Marshal   Zylo Marshall is a dedicated advocate for disabled rights and opportunities. Having faced profound personal challenges, including permanent brain damage from infancy and the loss of his mother at 14, Marshall transformed these hardships into a mission-driven life focused on helping others with disabilities. He is a licensed realtor who faced significant legal and systemic hurdles while trying to integrate into the professional world, and he now works to champion change for those in similar situations. His commitment to fostering supportive policies and systems for the disabled community is a testament to his resilience and advocacy.   Episode Summary: In this episode of "Oh My Health, There Is Hope," host Jana Short welcomes Zylo Marshall, a passionate advocate for disability rights. Marshall shares his compelling journey through personal hardships, including early brain damage and navigating an inheritance dispute, which fueled his drive to support and empower others with disabilities. His story is one of resilience, highlighting the systemic challenges individuals with disabilities face as they strive for independence and success. Marshall points out that systemic changes provide safety nets, enabling disabled individuals to explore professional opportunities without fear of losing essential benefits. Throughout the conversation, Marshall and Short explore the critical concept of providing viable paths for the disabled community to enter the workforce. They discuss how current systems often trap individuals in a cycle of dependency, preventing personal growth and economic contribution. Marshall proposes implementing a more flexible trial work period for those on benefits, advocating gradual transitions that allow disabled individuals to test their capabilities in the workforce. Both agree that community support and legal protection are crucial to enabling these changes and urge societal shifts in perception and policy-making.   Key Takeaways: Overcoming Challenges: Zylo Marshall's life story is an inspiring example of turning personal difficulties into advocacy and action for others with similar struggles. Systemic Barriers: Many disabled individuals face losing essential benefits if they attempt to work, which discourages exploration of personal potential and economic contribution. Policy Recommendations: Marshall suggests a gradual trial work program that enables individuals to retain benefits while testing their capacity to work, thereby reducing the risk of entering the workforce. Legal Support and Awareness: There is a critical need for legal advocacy and policy changes to protect the rights and opportunities of the disabled community. Community Action: Society plays a pivotal role in supporting these changes; community engagement and letter-writing can prompt legislative and systemic changes.   Resources: https://www.zylomarshall.com/ https://www.instagram.com/zylomarshal/ https://www.facebook.com/zylomarshallstory https://www.linkedin.com/company/wix-com https://www.youtube.com/@zylomarshall7068   ✨ Enjoying the show? Stay inspired long after the episode ends! Jana is gifting you free subscriptions to Ageless Living Magazine and Best Holistic Life Magazine—two of the fastest-growing publications dedicated to holistic health, personal growth, and living your most vibrant life. Inside, you'll find powerful stories, expert insights, and practical tools to help you thrive—mind, body, and soul. 📰 Claim your free Best Holistic Life magazine and start reading today: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine 🎁 Plus, grab your free Ageless Living Magazine here: https://bestholisticlife.info/AgelessLivingMagazineLosAngeles   Connect with Jana and explore more episodes: https://www.janashort.com/ https://www.janashort.com/contact/   🎶 Show Music: "Hold On" by Amy Gerhartz https://www.amygerhartz.com/music

    25 min
  8. May 2

    Unlocking Life's Potential Through Frequency Work and Self-Acceptance with Karen Cheong

    "I believe that there's something more beyond the physical that I can't see that influences all this." - Karen Cheong   Karen Chong is a visionary leader in the field of frequency work and the founder of Spherical Luminosity. She is an international pioneer who specializes in helping self-aware individuals release unconscious blocks at the quantum level. Transitioning from a career in law and real estate, Karen has dedicated her life to guiding thousands through frequency collaborations, retreats, and masterminds that empower people to remember their true selves and embrace their roles as intentional co-creators. Her innovative approach to consciousness work makes complex concepts practical and relatable for everyone.   Episode Summary: In this engaging episode of All My Health There Is Hope, host Jana Short interviews the inspiring Karen Chong, the visionary force behind Spherical Luminosity. As a pioneer in the field of frequency work, Karen shares her transformative journey from a career in law and real estate to becoming an international leader in helping people release unconscious blocks at the quantum level. Listeners will gain insights into Karen's philosophy that combines advanced consciousness work with practical applications, emphasizing a non-guru approach that empowers individuals to take control of their destinies. Unpacking the profound impact of frequency work, Karen provides listeners with a deeper understanding of how vibrational resonance can influence every aspect of life—from health and relationships to achieving limitless potential. Through inspiring anecdotes and personal experiences, she illustrates how releasing individual distortions elevates one's frequency, leading to greater alignment and synchronicity in life. To top it off, Karen introduces her 'Resonance Reboot Bundle,' designed to help individuals embark on their own frequency-work journey and catalyze profound personal growth.   Key Takeaways: Frequency work involves increasing one's vibrational resonance to access higher-level timelines and enhance life experiences. Releasing personal distortions can lead to improved health, stronger relationships, and financial abundance by aligning oneself with higher vibrational fields. The importance of self-empowerment and surrendering to the universe is emphasized as a key to fulfilling personal transformation. A health crisis triggered Karen's transformational journey, leading her to explore and master frequency work. The 'Resonance Reboot Bundle' offers tools and guidance for those interested in initiating their path to higher vibrational living.   Resources: www.SphericalLuminosity.com https://www.facebook.com/SphericalLuminosity https://www.youtube.com/c/SphericalLuminosity   Free Gift: The Residence reboot bundle… DM: Reboot111 @‌Spherical_Luminosity     ✨ Enjoying the show? Stay inspired long after the episode ends! Jana is gifting you free subscriptions to Ageless Living Magazine and Best Holistic Life Magazine—two of the fastest-growing publications dedicated to holistic health, personal growth, and living your most vibrant life. Inside, you'll find powerful stories, expert insights, and practical tools to help you thrive—mind, body, and soul. 📰 Claim your free Best Holistic Life magazine and start reading today: https://bestholisticlife.info/BestHolisticLifeMagazine 🎁 Plus, grab your free Ageless Living Magazine here: https://bestholisticlife.info/AgelessLivingMagazineLosAngeles   Connect with Jana and explore more episodes: https://www.janashort.com/ https://www.janashort.com/contact/   🎶 Show Music: "Hold On" by Amy Gerhartz https://www.amygerhartz.com/music

    33 min
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Welcome to Oh My Health There Is Hope. I'm Jana Short your host, founder of best holistic life and health influencers mastermind. I'm also a wellness coach and NLP practitioner. I'll be talking to fellow health experts major influencers and extraordinary people to discuss holistic health, wellness and sharing their incredible stories of hope with you together we are changing the world one expert at a time.

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