The Problem With Perfect

Robin May and Denise Bickel

If perfection is an illusion, why are so many of us chasing it? We live in a world that is constantly telling us we need to be it all and have it all to be worthy. It leads us to hide our imperfections and overcompensate our strengths - and leaves us exhausted. Join hosts Robin May and Denise Bickel for meaningful, cross-generational conversations that will leave you uplifted and encouraged about a future freed from the problem with perfect.

  1. 2d ago

    The Pressure to Repeat Success with Author Michelle Collins Anderson

    When author Michelle Collins Anderson debuted her first novel, The Flower Sisters, she joined the podcast to discuss the ten-year journey it took to bring that story into the world. Since then, life has changed dramatically. Her second novel, The Moonshine Women, has become an instant USA Today bestseller, and she's already hard at work on book number three. In this episode, we talk about her fascinating new novel set in the Missouri Ozarks, but we also dive into something much deeper: the pressure that comes after success. How do you create when people are waiting? How do you stay true to your voice when everyone has an opinion? And how do you keep moving forward when the expectations, both internal and external, keep getting higher? Whether you're an author, an entrepreneur, a parent, or simply someone who wonders if you're doing enough, you'll find encouragement in Michelle's honest reflections on creativity, criticism, deadlines, and learning that your worth isn't defined by your latest achievement. Show Notes: Michelle Collins Anderson grew up in the Missouri Ozarks and holds a Bachelor of Journalism degree from the University of Missouri and an MFA in fiction from Warren Wilson College. Her debut novel, The Flower Sisters, was an instant USA Today bestseller and won the Missouri Library Association Literary Award in 2025. Her new novel, The Moonshine Women, was an IndieNext pick in April 2026 and an instant USA Today bestseller. Michelle’s short fiction has been nominated for a Pushcart Prize and appeared in Nimrod International Journal, Literal Latté, Midwestern Gothic, Elder Mountain: A Journal of Ozarks Studies, Literary Mama and more. She and her husband have three adult children and live in St. Louis with two sister cats and a rambunctious border collie. To purchase her books, go to https://bookshop.org/shop/michelle_collins_anderson  Follow her writing journey at: The Creative Pause on Substack or at www.MichelleAnderson.me Show produced by Jordan Overkamp at playroomstudio.net

  2. Jun 2

    When They Grow Up: Navigating the Joy and Grief of Adult Children

    Parenting doesn’t end when your kids become adults. It just changes. In this episode, Robin is joined by Kelly and Kenny Cook for an honest conversation about parenting adult children, family relationships, boundaries, and letting go with grace. Together they unpack five lessons they’ve learned along the way: when advice helps and when it hurts, how listening can be more healing than fixing, why healthy love respects boundaries, how not to take distance personally, and what it looks like to trust God when your children need space to become themselves. It’s a conversation about surrender, identity, grief, wisdom, boundaries, forgiveness, faith, and navigating the challenges of raising grown kids while staying connected. If you’re learning how to move from directing  to praying, this episode is for you. Tune in now for encouragement, practical parenting wisdom, and hope for every parent navigating the journey of parenting adult children. You’ll be encouraged!  Special Guests: Kenny and Kelly Cook Kenny & Kelly Cook are a husband-and-wife team helping individuals, creators, entrepreneurs, and businesses improve their communication, branding, content, confidence, and overall direction both online and in real life. Kelly is a former news anchor with extensive experience in public speaking, media, communication, travel, and audience engagement. She also grew up around the world of public appearances and media as the daughter of one of the oldest living Miss Americas, helping shape her understanding of presentation, professionalism, and connecting with people authentically. Kenny brings decades of executive leadership, business ownership, sales, marketing, operations, and financial management experience. He has served in senior leadership roles including Vice President and General Manager positions, with hands-on experience in budgeting, profit and loss management, balance sheets, strategic planning, branding, messaging, and team leadership. Together, they combine real-world business experience with modern social media and communication strategies to help clients   They also understand the realities of major life transitions, including marriage, family dynamics, parenting adult children, career changes, reinvention in midlife, and the shift into the “empty nest” stage of life. Through both personal and professional experience, we’ve learned how important communication, perspective, adaptability, and authenticity are during seasons of change.

  3. Apr 21

    Digital Detox: How to Overcome Our Smartphone and Social Media Addiction Encore

    Back by popular demand. This episode is our most downloaded one ever! The content is so relevant and important, we're re-releasing it. Today we’re diving into a topic that touches nearly everyone’s lives: the time we spend on social media and our smartphones. In this episode, we explore how the hours we spend scrolling, liking, and tweeting are not just fleeting moments but can be significant in shaping our daily lives and overall well-being. We’ll start by breaking down the problem—why social media and smartphone usage have become such dominant forces in our lives and the subtle ways they might be undermining our productivity, mental health, and personal relationships.  But don’t worry, it’s not all doom and gloom! We also discuss practical strategies and actionable steps to reclaim your time and find a healthier balance. Whether you’re looking to cut down on screen time or just curious about how to better manage your digital habits, this episode is packed with tips and insights that you can start using today. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and let’s get started on taking back control from our screens. Show notes:  How Much Time Does The Average Person Spend on Social Media? www.medium.com. Time Spent on Social Media Graphics: https://twicsy.com/blog/time-spent-on-social-media. Helpful tips: To limit screen time on an iPhone, you can use the Screen Time feature to set limits and restrictions for your device or for a child's device: Open SettingsTap Screen TimeSelect a category to set limits and restrictions  Here are some of the categories you can use: App Limits: Set time limits for appsDowntime: Schedule time away from the screenCommunication Limits: Set limits based on your contactsAlways Allowed: Choose apps you want at all timesContent & Privacy Restrictions: Block inappropriate content You can also limit your time on individual websites by: Swiping down to the bottom of the categories list and tapping WebsitesChoosing Add WebsiteEntering the URL for any websites you want to limitSetting the amount of time you are allowed to use the selected websites You can also set a screen timeout by: Opening the Settings appScrolling down and selecting the Display & Brightness optionScrolling down again and choosing Auto Lock

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If perfection is an illusion, why are so many of us chasing it? We live in a world that is constantly telling us we need to be it all and have it all to be worthy. It leads us to hide our imperfections and overcompensate our strengths - and leaves us exhausted. Join hosts Robin May and Denise Bickel for meaningful, cross-generational conversations that will leave you uplifted and encouraged about a future freed from the problem with perfect.