The ITPro Podcast

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The ITPro Podcast is a weekly show for technology professionals and business leaders. Each week hosts Rory Bathgate and Jane McCallion are joined by an expert guest to take a deep dive into the most important issues for the IT community. New episodes premiere every Friday. Visit itpro.com/uk/the-it-pro-podcast for more information, or follow ITPro on LinkedIn for regular updates.

  1. Jun 11

    The AI pricing time bomb

    Are businesses heading for an AI pricing time bomb? With companies like Uber suddenly raising concerns about the inability to draw a clear line between token usage and visible improvements, there is a growing question about the real cost of AI and agents. On this episode of the ITPro Podcast, Bobby Hellard and Ross Kelly are joined by the CEO of Mendix, Raymond Kok, to discuss the different scenarios facing businesses as the true cost of AI hits home. Highlights“I think more and more the conversation is shifting in that direction. So, starting with what are the business-relevant use cases, and I'm saying business relevant on purpose, because there are plenty of interesting use cases around generative AI, but it's about the business-relevant use cases. Then it's about what is the job that needs to get done, and then to your question, how do you actually budget for agents like you budget for your human workforce in any company? And I think slowly but surely that narrative is changing, right, and I think what we're going to go see is that after the IPO of Ventropic and Open AI, the prices will further soar, and I think this conversation will become more and more important.” “I'm glad that actually you're talking about it in your podcast, because I think it's now really becoming an issue, meaning that CEOs and CIOs were obviously promoting their employees to become AI literate and started to make AI tooling available to their workforce. 24 months ago, they were able to sign attractive deals with the big technology providers and get their people going, but now the bill is starting to show up. It used to be maybe 10, 20, maybe 50k a month for a larger company, but it's now moving into the hundreds of ks, and guess what, because this is also usage-based, it's very hard to control, right, so most of the monetization models, as you know, of these large language providers is based on usage.” 'One-size-fits-all' agent governance sets enterprises up to failUber caps usage of AI tools like Claude Code to manage costs (Bloomberg)Uber’s eye-watering AI bill shows enterprises are ‘still measuring AI success through consumption rather than outcomes’ – and it's warping our perception of ROI and productivityCould rising token costs boost interest in on-premises hardware?

    The AI pricing time bomb
  2. Jun 3

    SPECIAL EDITION: Security at the speed of AI

    Many IT leaders are at a crossroads in their careers, with the clear potential of AI for cybersecurity matched with the huge threat of AI-powered attacks. Recent releases such as Anthropic’s Claude Mythos have revealed the wave of AI-assisted vulnerability discovery, which will act as a powerful asset in the defender’s toolkit but could also become a potent weapon in the attacker’s arsenal. Luckily, IT leaders don’t have to make all these decisions alone. With the right partner today, they can get in the right mindset for AI-speed attacks today, and make the most of automation in their cybersecurity. In this episode, in association with Automox, the ITPro Podcast is joined by the company’s CTO Jason Kikta to discuss how to do more with less in endpoint management. Highlights “A core principle of cyber resilience is that every strategy fails at the inventory layer first, as you cannot defend, patch, or recover what you don't know you have.” “Cyber resilience is framed as a business problem that requires the investment and attention of the CFO, not solely an IT or security team responsibility.” “IT leaders are advised to benchmark their security response times against the fastest attackers, not the average, as attacker tooling is improving faster than defensive capabilities.” “The speed at which attackers can exploit vulnerabilities has drastically decreased, moving from weeks to mere hours due to AI-assisted exploit development.” Resources Beyond visibility: endpoint management and mitigation at frontier pace https://www.automox.com/ https://www.automox.com/resources/ebooks-and-guides/agile-ai https://www.automox.com/resources/ebooks-and-guides/business-value-of-automox https://go.automox.com/state-of-endpoint-management-2026/

    SPECIAL EDITION: Security at the speed of AI

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The ITPro Podcast is a weekly show for technology professionals and business leaders. Each week hosts Rory Bathgate and Jane McCallion are joined by an expert guest to take a deep dive into the most important issues for the IT community. New episodes premiere every Friday. Visit itpro.com/uk/the-it-pro-podcast for more information, or follow ITPro on LinkedIn for regular updates.

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