The GenSend Podcast

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The next generation is the now generation. They're not just the future of the church, but they're the church today. So what will it take to reach them with the gospel? The GenSend Podcast is a podcast designed to equip you to reach, disciple and mobilize the next generation.

  1. Oct 27

    Are Mormons Christian?: What the LDS Church Actually Believes

    In this episode of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor sit down with Bobby Wood, a church planter who has spent 16 years in Utah. Listen in as he helps explain why “same words, different meanings” is the biggest barrier to the gospel for Latter-day Saints. Equip yourself and your students on how to engage Mormons with less debate, to incorporate more questions and patience, and to make a beeline to Jesus in conversation. Discover a practical framework for talking about faith with Mormon friends, plus real stories of God moving in a pre-Christian mission field. No matter which next gen ministry you lead, this one is worth sharing with your students.Also in This Episode:  Equip your students to define spiritual terms before they debate them, since terms often have different meanings to Latter-day Saints. Understand the core doctrinal differences in the Trinity, salvation, and Scripture, so your students aren’t caught off guard in conversation. Take the long view of evangelism: Hear why most conversions come after years of faithful seed-planting by someone else, which takes the pressure off a single conversation. Get a roadmap for follow-up: Learn how to move from righteousness to the Trinity to walking through New Testament books. Prepare summer and mission teams heading into hard places by learning what Utah’s mission field is actually like. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and Celebrating What God Is Doing in Utah Shane, Paul, and Lacey open the episode, give shout-outs to Baptist Collegiate Ministries, and introduce Bobby Wood. Bobby shares highlights of how GenSend summer missionaries have fueled Redemption Church and church planting in Utah. 06:35 Same Words, Different Gospel: Why Shared Vocabulary Matters The conversation turns to why calling LDS teaching a “false gospel” stirs up so much controversy. Bobby unpacks how terms like grace, repentance, righteousness, and Scripture mean different things to Latter-day Saints and evangelical Christians, and the group discusses why defining “Jesus” matters. 21:55 Key Doctrines, Conversation Strategies, and Hope in Utah Bobby outlines the major doctrinal differences (preexistence, exaltation, the Trinity, and baptism for the dead), then shares practical evangelism tips: ask questions, avoid arguing, and point people to the gospel over apologetics. The episode closes with stories of gospel breakthrough in Utah, resources, and a challenge to love LDS missionaries well. Helpful Resources:  GenSend Summer Free eBook: Barriers and Bridges Free eBook: A Christian’s Guide to World Religions Send Network  GenSend on Instagram and YouTube ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org  ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Shareable Quotes:  “Just because we have the same name doesn’t mean we’re worshiping the same Jesus.” —Bobby Wood  “We can’t say Jesus but then change fundamentally who Jesus is and still claim Christianity.” —Shane Pruitt   “You could win the conversation but not win the person to Christ.” —Paul Worcester   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  2. Oct 13

    Why Gen Z and Gen Alpha Are Turning to Catholicism

    In this episode of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor welcome Trevin Wax, NAMB Vice President and visiting professor at Cedarville University, to discuss the shift of young people flocking to Catholic Mass and Eastern Orthodox liturgy. Discover what’s driving this move; why “otherworldliness,” not aesthetics, is the real draw; and how youth and collegiate leaders can respond with conviction instead of panic.  Whether your students are asking questions about the Reformation, drifting toward TikTok theology, or longing for a worship experience that doesn’t feel like the rest of their week, this conversation gives you the historical grounding and practical language to shepherd them well. Also in This Episode:  Understand the real data behind the “rise of Catholicism” narrative and why the numbers tell a more nuanced story than the headlines Learn two core theological differences to clearly and charitably explain evangelical convictions to curious students Get vetted apologetics resources to hand off to students without becoming a full-time Catholic/Orthodox debate expert yourself Walk away with a working definition of “liturgy” that applies to every church—contemporary or traditional—and tools to be more intentional about your own Hear how to disciple the mid-to-late 20s age gap that’s most drawn to higher liturgical traditions and celebrity-culture rejection Helpful Resources:  Gavin Ortlund’s Christian Apologetics on YouTube Talking with Catholics about the Gospel: A Guide for Evangelicals by Christopher A. Castaldo Roman Catholic Theology and Practice: An Evangelical Assessment by Gregg Allison 40 Questions About Roman Catholicism by Gregg Allison “Churchiness Is Back” by Trevin Wax  The Lord Is My Light by Trevin Wax The Gospel Way Catechism: 50 Truths That Take on the World by Trevin Wax GenSend on Instagram and YouTube ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org  ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Shareable Quotes:  “Every church is liturgical; everyone's got an order of worship.” —Trevin Wax  “The 20-year-old on TikTok did not figure out something that 2,000 years of church fathers said otherwise.” —Shane Pruitt   “The average student is going to go with whoever gets to him first.” —Paul Worcester   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  3. Sep 29

    Why the Local Church Still Matters (and Why Gen Z Needs It)

    In this episode of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor tackle the tension every next gen leader faces: Gen Z is showing up to church in larger numbers than their parents’ generation, yet research shows they’re less theologically formed than ever. Listen in to discover the New Testament case for local church commitment, how to walk with students carrying real church hurt, and learn practical, field-tested language for talking with unchurched or unbelieving family members. Whether you’re leading six students or 600, this episode will give you fresh words for a conversation you’re probably already having this fall.   Also in This Episode:  Gain a compassionate but direct approach to students dealing with real church hurt or spiritual abuse Hear language for college students navigating faith conversations at home over breaks Learn how to address “church hopping” or “church sampling” without shaming students Pick up ready-to-use illustrations for teaching on the local church Discover how to help students distinguish real shepherding from online spiritual influencers Helpful Resources:  Youth Leader Coaching Network Collegiate Coaching Network  Movement Ready Church by Robby Gallaty and Vick Green  New Barna Data: Young Adults Lead a Resurgence in Church Attendance  Gen Z Churchgoers Attend More but Often Lag in Application  3 Circles Evangelism Tool  Life on Mission app  GenSend on Instagram and YouTube ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org  ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Shareable Quotes:  “The church is not a building to be maintained; it's a people to be mobilized.” —Shane Pruitt   “Programs don't make disciples; disciples make disciples.” —Paul Worcester   “Ministry, evangelism, and the mission are a team sport.” —Paul Worcester   “Discipleship happens best in the local church.” —Lacey Villasenor   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  4. Sep 15

    Helping Students Thrive: Overcoming Obstacles to Growth

    Kicking off Season 8 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor dig into a topic every campus minister has seen but few talk about openly: the “isolation cycle” that can derail Christian college students before they even know what’s happening. Drawing on his 20+ years of discipling students, Paul shares eight roadblocks that keep young believers stuck—from compromise and shame to loneliness and burnout—and shows how they can be flipped into a launchpad for spiritual growth. Whether you’re sending a freshman off to campus this fall, leading a college ministry, or discipling students in your youth group toward lifelong faithfulness, this episode gives you a practical, gospel-centered framework you can start using this week. Also in This Episode, Learn:  Learn to identify the “isolation cycle,” the sin-shame-hiding-withdrawal spiral that can trap even outwardly healthy students and leaders. Understand why "compromise" (80–90% surrender) may be the most under-recognized spiritual issue among students today. Hear a practical distinction between the danger of isolation and the formative nature of solitude that you can teach directly to students. Discover a strategy for reaching harder-to-disciple populations such as international students, commuters, and community college students. See how to “reverse engineer” discipleship, starting with middle schoolers and youth, so college faith isn’t a fresh start but a continuation. Helpful Resources: Thrive: Cultivating a Faith That Endures, Paul Worcester 5 Leadership Principles for Collegiate Ministry, Paul Worcester and Shane Pruitt  GenSend on Instagram and YouTube ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org  ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Shareable Quotes:  “Social media did not make a generation more social. The thing that was supposed to connect the world actually made loneliness go up.” —Shane Pruitt   “It’s impossible to overdo time alone in God's presence. I've never gotten done with an hour alone with God and felt like that was a waste of time.” —Paul Worcester   “There’s a difference between isolation and solitude. Isolation is unplanned and alone, typically where sin thrives. Solitude is intentional time with the Lord where your soul thrives.” —Shane Pruitt   “Bonhoeffer said, ‘The enemy loves to see a man by himself.’ Because the more alone they are, the tighter sin’s stranglehold on the person.” —Paul Worcester Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  5. Jun 9

    The GenSend Podcast LIVE: Reaching Gen Alpha

    In episode 8 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, hosts Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor welcome special guest, Dr. Shelly Melia, coauthor with Pruitt of Reaching Generation Alpha. In this episode, discover how to effectively reach and disciple Gen Alpha, those born between 2010–2025, the first fully digital generation. Next-gen leaders, ministry partners, and parents will be equipped to understand what shapes Gen Alpha, how to engage them both online and relationally, and meet their deep spiritual hunger with biblical clarity. Learn practical steps to faithfully make disciples in this cultural moment by understanding the world that’s forming them and how the gospel speaks directly into it. What You'll Learn: Why Gen Alpha’s upbringing is fundamentally different from previous generations  How technology and algorithms are forming identity and worldview  The connection between anxiety, loneliness, and adolescent development Practical ways to engage Gen Alpha with truth How to faithfully make disciples in this cultural moment Helpful Resources: Reaching Generation Alpha by Shane Pruitt and Shelly Melia “Don’t Forget the Holy Spirit” Substack Series Free eBook: Three Habits for Everyday Evangelism Free Download: The Big 5: Foundational Habits for Discipleship GenSend on Instagram and YouTube       ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org       ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shareable Quotes: “The question is not, ‘Are they being discipled?’ The question is, ‘Who or what is discipling them?’” —Shane Pruitt    “Gen Z expanded their network through technology. Gen Alpha has a global perspective as a starting point.” —Dr. Shelly Melia   “Disciples are hand-crafted, not mass produced.” —Paul Worcester    “Technology is not just changing Gen Alpha; it is forming them.” —Dr. Shelly Melia “Our calling as leaders, parents, grandparents, teachers, and coaches is to help the next generation to know the truth and to disciple them to live in that truth.” —Shane Pruitt   “Social media didn’t make kids more social. Artificial intelligence is not going to make our kids more intelligent.” —Dr. Shelly Melia “You don’t get what you expect; you get what you inspect. Gospel-centered accountability is life-changing.” —Paul Worcester  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  6. Apr 28

    Are Christians Losing Biblical Literacy?

    In episode 7 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor unpack the growing gap between Bible access and Bible understanding and why it may be one of the most urgent discipleship challenges facing pastors and ministry leaders right now. From the truth about “deconstruction” to the surprising hunger Gen Z has for deep theology, this conversation will challenge how you think about teaching Scripture and give you practical ways to build ministries that produce students who don’t just hear the Word but live it and share it. What You'll Learn: Why the goal isn’t to “dumb it down” but to disciple them up What Gen Z is actually craving: depth, not entertainment How to identify three types of deconstruction in your ministry Practical ways to teach students to read and interpret Scripture themselves How to balance fun, belonging, and theological depth in your ministry Helpful Resources: The Bible Recap: A One-Year Guide to Reading and Understanding the Entire Bible GenSend Leader Resources GenSend on Instagram and YouTube       ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org       ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shareable Quotes: “One of the greatest issues we have in the church today is Bible illiteracy. If we don’t know truth, we can’t live it out.” —Shane Pruitt  “Students are clearly hungry, but are we equipping them to feed themselves?” —Lacey Villasenor “Some people aren’t deconstructing—they’re just living in sin and looking for a new word to justify it.” —Shane Pruitt “It’s not just knowing the Word—it’s obeying what you know that builds a life on the rock.” —Paul Worcester  “Some of the most effective teaching is just opening the Bible and walking through it.” —Paul Worcester Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  7. Apr 14

    Likes, Views, and Revival: When Influence Isn’t Anointing

    In episode 6 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor help next-gen leaders discern what truly matters in a digital world where influence is measured in likes and views. They unpack the tension between platform and anointing, and why viral doesn’t always mean faithful. Discover the dangers of equating online popularity with spiritual authority as well as practical guidance for leading students with discernment. Be challenged to rethink success, guard your heart from comparison, and anchor your ministry in Scripture instead of algorithms. Listen in to be equipped to shepherd students through digital noise while staying grounded in real, relational discipleship.    What You'll Learn: Why confidence does not equal competence in online teaching How to help students test everything against Scripture Why faithfulness is the biblical measure of success, not visibility How to shepherd students influenced by online voices The difference between discernment and cynicism when evaluating teachers Helpful Resources: GenSend Webinar: Reaching Gen Alpha (May 7, 2026) Three Habits for Everyday Evangelism, eBook by Paul Worcester Respectable Sins, by Jerry Bridges FM72 GenSend on Instagram and YouTube       ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org       ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shareable Quotes: “Gifts and talents can build a crowd, but only the Holy Spirit can build the Church.” —Shane Pruitt   “Students often assume that if it has a lot of views, it must be true.” —Lacey Villasenor   “It’s a snare to compare. Just put out truth and trust the Lord with it.” —Shane Pruitt “Social media is a mission field, but it should never replace real discipleship.” —Paul Worcester    “The metric of success you choose will shape the ministry you build.” —Lacey Villasenor Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  8. Mar 31

    Bivocational Ministry: Faithful Leadership in a Changing Church

    In episode 5 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor offer a clear vision for how bivocational and covocational ministry is a strategic advantage for reaching your campus and community, especially if you’re a leader who’s navigating ministry alongside school, work, or life. Discover practical rhythms for managing your time, avoiding burnout, and leading from a place of spiritual health. Be challenged to rethink calling, not as a single lane, but as a life lived on mission wherever God has placed you. This conversation will equip you to lead faithfully right where you are, with what you have.   What You'll Learn: How to define and distinguish bivocational and covocational ministry Why bivocational ministry is becoming a key strategy for the future of the church The difference between striving for “balance” and living in “harmony” The evangelistic advantage of being in the marketplace and everyday environments How your current job or major can become a mission field, not a distraction Helpful Resources: “The 5 Hour Sermon: A Covo Preacher’s Guide” article at NewChurches.com Discovering Covocational Church Planting, by Send Network Not My Jesus (Bible Study Book with Video Access) GenSend on Instagram and YouTube       ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org       ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shareable Quotes: “See it all as a marathon. If you sprint in every area, you’ll burn out and not be great for anyone.” —Shane Pruitt   “Your goal isn’t how much ministry you can do; it’s how much you can empower others to do.” —Paul Worcester    “When students see someone with a marketplace job teaching the Bible, it expands their vision of calling.” —Lacey Villasenor   “If you're covocational, you're in good company—Jesus was a carpenter, and Paul was a tentmaker.” —Shane Pruitt “As a covocational leader, you get to model the lifestyle you’re trying to reproduce.” —Paul Worcester    “When you meet real needs, people start asking, ‘Why are you here?’—and that opens the door for the gospel.” —Lacey Villasenor Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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The next generation is the now generation. They're not just the future of the church, but they're the church today. So what will it take to reach them with the gospel? The GenSend Podcast is a podcast designed to equip you to reach, disciple and mobilize the next generation.

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