The Defiant

The Defiant

The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.

  1. Oct 22

    Mark Karpelès Opened the Ledgers. The Spy Chips Are Mass-Produced.

    The chip that stole more than $90 million from Ledger users costs less than $20 to build, snaps into place with three solder points, and has gone through at least three generations of design. Whoever makes it isn't planning a short run. Ledger says its own chip and software were never compromised, and that every confirmed case traces back to one Malaysian reseller, CryptoBilis. But implanted devices have also been reported from authorized shops in Singapore and from MediaMarkt in Germany, and Ledger had photos of the newer implant on its website months before the drains. Camila Russo talks with Mark Karpelès, the former Mt. Gox CEO who now runs Karpeles Lab, and who found the mass-produced implant after buying a half-price Nano X on Amazon Japan. He explains how the board is installed, why he thinks someone is selling it as a product, and why weighing your wallet won't catch it. He also responds to Ledger CEO Pascal Gauthier, who said Mark's Mt. Gox record makes him no white knight, and argues that one well-placed warning could have saved most of the money. So who is building these implants, and who else is buying them? Mark walks through what to check on your own device, why panicking is the bigger risk, the open-source antenna detector he's building, and why he still thinks self-custody is the whole point of Bitcoin. "If you have a hardware wallet, it shouldn't contain a mobile antenna." Guest: Mark Karpelès (Karpeles Lab)Topics: Ledger, Nano X, hardware wallet implant, supply chain attack, CryptoBilis, MediaMarkt, seed phrase, Mt. Gox, Pascal Gauthier, Joe Grand, self-custody, multisig, crypto security, hardware security

    Mark Karpelès Opened the Ledgers. The Spy Chips Are Mass-Produced.
  2. Sep 25

    Tokenized Stocks Get an SEC Sandbox. Who's Left Out?

    The SEC just gave tokenized U.S. stocks a five-year path to trade on AMMs outside exchange registration rules. The largest tokenized stock platform in the market doesn't qualify.Days after the Senate declined to move ahead on the CLARITY Act, the SEC issued an exemption order for "tokenized securities venues." It sets conditions: permissioned pools, public blockchains, and tokens that carry the full rights of the underlying share. Synthetic and linked products are outside the sandbox.Camila Russo sits down with Peter Curley of Ondo Finance, whose offshore equity-linked notes hold about $1 billion in TVL but aren't eligible; Gabriel Otte of Dinari, whose broker-dealer-issued dShares fit the order almost exactly; and Rodrigo Seira of Cooley, who explains why the order is a proof of concept built to survive a legal fight with Citadel and others.Gabe calls synthetic stock tokens "indisputably worse" for investors and says he's never heard a good argument for permissionless securities. Peter says Ondo already has product-market fit and the SEC has left room for more models. So is the order a set of red lines, or a first draft?"There is no rule book here. We're literally trying to build the future."Guests: Peter Curley (Ondo Finance) | Gabriel Otte (Dinari) | Rodrigo Seira (Cooley) Topics: tokenized stocks, SEC exemption order, tokenized securities venues, AMMs, Ondo Global Markets, Dinari dShares, synthetic stocks, equity-linked notes, permissioned DeFi, CLARITY Act, Hester Peirce, Paul Atkins, RWA

    Tokenized Stocks Get an SEC Sandbox. Who's Left Out?
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The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.

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