Bible Love: A Scripture Podcast

Bible Love Podcast

Bible Love is a conversation about scripture between Mary Balfour Van Zandt (priest at Church of the Epiphany in Guntersville, Ala.) and Alan Bentrup (priest at St. Martin-in-the-Fields in Keller, Texas).

  1. Jul 30

    How To Become a Military Chaplain: A Conversation on Vocation with the Rev. Anna Page

    Today we’re joined the Rev. Anna Page a chaplain and Captain in the United States Army. Anna Page went to high school thinking about ROTC as a way to pay for college. An Army scholarship took her to Wellesley, ROTC took her to MIT, and an instructor suggested she look into the Chaplain Corps. Then she walked into St. Andrew's Episcopal Church in Wellesley and saw a woman presiding at the altar for the first time. Two callings found each other and have been inseparable ever since. This week Mary Balfour sits down with the Rev. Anna Page, Episcopal priest and Army chaplain, for a conversation about one of the least understood vocations in the church. A military chaplain carries two distinct roles at once: religious leader, providing sacraments, pastoral counseling, and worship for service members, and religious advisor, counseling commanders on ethics, morale, and the spiritual health of the unit. Rev. Page currently works on flight lines alongside helicopter pilots in an aviation battalion. You go where the people are. Prayer for Mission (Morning Prayer, the Book of Common Prayer, pg 100) Almighty and everlasting God, by whose Spirit the whole body of your faithful people is governed and sanctified: Receive our supplications and prayers which we offer before you for all members of your holy Church, that in their vocation and ministry they may truly and devoutly serve you; through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. Links mentioned in this episode: - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast

  2. Jul 16

    How To Become a Monk: A Conversation on Vocation with Brother Curtis Almquist, SSJE

    At age 12, Curtis Almquist had a dream that he was supposed to be a monk. He also considered astronaut, FBI agent, garbage collector, and brain surgeon. It took decades before he found the community where he wept in a guest house room and knew, from both gratitude and fear, that this was the one. Thirty-eight years later, Brother Curtis is a monk with the Society of Saint John the Evangelist in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and he will tell you, with complete honesty, that he is still working on becoming one. This week Alan and Mary Balfour welcome Brother Curtis to the Bible Love summer series on vocation for a conversation about monastic life, spiritual direction, and what it actually means to follow a calling over the long haul. Brother Curtis prays seven times a day, leads retreats, walks alongside people in one-on-one spiritual direction, and does prison ministry and advocacy. He also describes himself, with characteristic candor, as someone who is completely devoted to Jesus, except when he's not, and on some days can be a real terror. His brother monks will confirm this. The heart of the conversation is vocational discernment, and Brother Curtis comes to it not as someone with answers but as a keeper of questions. What is the desire of your heart? What is the downside of pursuing this path? Have you tested this calling before? How do you make significant decisions? He asks these questions not to redirect people toward a predetermined answer but to help them find their own truth, with the help of people who love them enough to tell them the hard thing. Prayer for Mission (Morning Prayer, the Book of Common Prayer, pg 100) Almighty and everlasting God, by whose Spirit the whole  body of your faithful people is governed and sanctified: Receive our supplications and prayers which we offer before you for all members of your holy Church, that in their vocation and ministry they may truly and devoutly serve you; through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. Links mentioned in this episode: - Society of St. John the Evangelist (https://www.ssje.org) - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast

  3. Jun 18

    How to Become a Deacon: A Conversation on Vocation with The Rev. Deacon CJ Van Slyke

    A woman stopped her in a hospital hallway and said: what you do is not a job. What you do is a ministry. CJ Van Slyke had been a nurse, a licensed counselor, a Red Cross mental health specialist deployed to flood zones, a Haiti mission worker, and a volunteer at a women's overnight shelter. She had been doing the work for years before she had a name for it. The name, it turned out, was deacon. This week Mary Balfour sits down with her friend the Reverend Deacon CJ Van Slyke for a conversation about one of the most ancient and most misunderstood vocations in the church. A deacon is ordained to serve, specifically to carry the needs of the world into the church and the ministry of the church out into the world. CJ describes it as being called to work in the margins, in uncomfortable places, and still finding joy there. Not to fix things. To be present. They talk about what it actually takes to become a deacon, including four years of theological education, a year and a half of discernment, psychological testing, oral and written exams, and an assignment process that CJ compares to joining the military. They talk about immigration advocacy, food deserts, free laundry ministry in a low income neighborhood in Woodlawn, six acres of native plant restoration, and what it means to be the eyes and ears and feet on the ground for a congregation trying to figure out who its neighbors are. CJ said no for a long time. She didn't want people telling her what to do. Then a friend took her to a listening session and she was just in, immediately and completely. That turn, from resistance to recognition, is one the guests in this summer series keep describing in different words. At some point you stop trying to lift the burden yourself and discover it has already been lifted. In retirement, CJ is still on the pastoral care committee, the outreach committee, and the grants committee. She serves at the altar at least once a month. The joy, she says, has not gone away. She hopes it never does. Prayer for Mission (Morning Prayer, the Book of Common Prayer, pg 100) Almighty and everlasting God, by whose Spirit the whole  body of your faithful people is governed and sanctified: Receive our supplications and prayers which we offer before you for all members of your holy Church, that in their vocation and ministry they may truly and devoutly serve you; through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. Links mentioned in this episode: - The Rev. Deacon CJ Van Slyke (https://www.ssechurch.org/clergy-staff-1) - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast)

  4. Jun 4

    How to Become a Priest: A Conversation on Vocation with the Rev. Paul Roberts Abernathy

    It started with a Presbyterian chaplain who had no agenda. Just an open door, sixty minutes a week, and the grace to let a despairing sophomore be exactly who he was. That gift, given freely in the early 1970s, set in motion forty-eight years of ordained ministry that Paul Roberts Abernathy has never once regretted. This week Alan and Mary welcome Paul to the Bible Love summer series on vocation for a conversation that ranges from a dream on the precipice of a hill, to the difference between discernment and decision making, to what it means to listen so well that people trust you with the stories they carry alone. Paul draws a distinction that has shaped everything: discernment, from the Latin, means to separate and see what choices exist. Decision making means to cut off. Conflate them, he says, and you will make the worst mistakes of your life. Do the first thing honestly, and the second thing tends to take care of itself. We also hear about three confessions of faith in the Gospel of John, why they all happen at moments of gravest disappointment, and what Thomas meant when he said not just "my Lord" but "my Lord and my God." And Alan shares a story from a Race and Reconciliation Commission meeting in South Carolina in 2018, when a nervous joke met a simple sentence: you're here for a reason. Paul remembers the room. Alan has never forgotten the words. Forty-eight years in, Paul Roberts Abernathy is still reading his Bible every day, still finding things he has never seen before, and still listening to whoever walks through the door. Nothing we have been given, he says, has been given to us to keep. Prayer for Mission (Morning Prayer, the Book of Common Prayer, pg 100) Almighty and everlasting God, by whose Spirit the whole  body of your faithful people is governed and sanctified: Receive our supplications and prayers which we offer before you for all members of your holy Church, that in their vocation and ministry they may truly and devoutly serve you; through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. Links mentioned in this episode: - The Rev. Paul Roberts Abernathy (https://stmatthewsepiscopal.org/welcome/clergy-staff-vestry) - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast)

  5. May 21

    The Resurrection

    Today we talk about Jesus in the tomb in Mt 28.1-20; Mk 16.1-20; Lk 24.1-53; Jn 20.1-25. Five years ago, Alan and Mary Balfour started a podcast during a pandemic because what else were you going to do? This week they wrap up Season 5 with the day that makes everything else make sense. Easter is not just the happy ending after a hard week. It’s the whole point. The cross matters, but without the resurrection, as Alan puts it, pain and suffering and sin win. Easter is the day death loses. That changes everything, including, it turns out, how Christians understand funerals, which are Easter liturgies, and how they understand ordinary Sundays, and how they understand what happens when they die. Season 5 is a wrap, but the summer interview series launches the first week of June, with episodes every other week featuring a bishop, a priest, a deacon, a lay minister, a monk, a nun, and an army chaplain, all talking about vocation and how ordinary people can find their place in ministry. Season 6 returns in August. Thanks for five years. We love you. But most importantly, God does. Links mentioned in this episode: - Lydia of Thyatira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_of_Thyatira) - Walk-off Home Runs as an Image of Heaven (https://joshnoem.substack.com/p/walk-off-homers-are-an-image-of-heaven) - Dr. Tony’s notes on the crucifixion (https://www.stmartininthefields.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/The-Crucifixion.pdf) - Entering the Passion of Jesus: A Beginner's Guide to Holy Week (https://a.co/d/89u4GX8) - Christ Chronological Bible (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/143364603X) - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast)

  6. May 14

    The Tomb

    Today we talk about Jesus in the tomb in Mt 27.57-66; Mk 15.42-47; Lk 23.50-56; Jn 19.38-42. The body has to go somewhere. Two men who kept their distance while Jesus was alive step forward when he is dead. Joseph of Arimathea, a member of the council that condemned him, goes to Pilate and asks for the body. Nicodemus, the man who first came to Jesus by night in John 3, arrives with spices. Both of them are staking something real on a dead man. Both of them do it anyway. This week Alan and Mary Balfour sit with the burial narratives and with the day the church has historically done the least with: Holy Saturday. It is the only day in the liturgical year with no Eucharist. The tomb is sealed. The women who followed Joseph and watched where the body was laid now wait, spices prepared, unable to finish the burial until the Sabbath ends. But Holy Saturday is not only absence. The Apostles' Creed says he descended to the dead, and the tradition of the harrowing of hell takes that line seriously. The icons show Jesus standing at the broken gates of Hades, grasping people by the wrist, not the hand, because the dead cannot reach for him on their own. He pulls them out. The salvation is entirely his doing. It is one of the most complete images of grace in the entire Christian tradition. Good Friday deals with the past. Easter Sunday begins the new creation. Holy Saturday is the day in between, the theology of waiting, which turns out to be where most of human life actually lives. This episode releases on the Feast of the Ascension. Next week brings the resurrection, and the close of the season. Readings for next week: Mt 28.1-15; Mk 16.1-11; Lk 24.1-12; Jn 20.1-10 Links mentioned in this episode: - Jesus’ descent into hell iconography (https://www.orthodoxroad.com/christs-descent-into-hell-icon-explanation/) - Dr. Tony’s notes on the crucifixion (https://www.stmartininthefields.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/The-Crucifixion.pdf) - Entering the Passion of Jesus: A Beginner's Guide to Holy Week (https://a.co/d/89u4GX8) - Christ Chronological Bible (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/143364603X) - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast)

  7. May 7

    The Cross

    Today we’re joined by Dr. Tony as we talk about the central moment of the Christian faith. We talk about Jesus and the cross in Mt 27.15-56; Mk 15.6-41; Lk 23.13-49; Jn 18.38-19.37. All four gospels bring you to the same hill, the same cross, the same Friday. And then each one tells you something the others don't. This week Dr. Tony works through the crucifixion narratives, and the conversation keeps returning to a simple but demanding question: what is each gospel writer trying to show you about what is happening on this cross, and why does it matter that they don't all show you the same thing? John frames the crucifixion as simultaneously atonement and enthronement. Jesus is the Lamb of God, dying on the very day the Passover lambs are slaughtered, and he is the king lifted up and exalted, just as he said he would be. "It is finished" means both that a life has ended and that a mission has been completed. John holds both things at once and will not let you separate them. Luke gives you two prayers. The first is for the people killing him. The second is an act of complete trust spoken into what must have felt like complete darkness. And somewhere between those two prayers, a man dying beside him asks to be remembered, and receives the only explicit promise of paradise Jesus makes to anyone in any of the four gospels. No works. No baptism. No time for reform. Pure grace, with nowhere left to hide from it. Matthew and Mark give you the cry of dereliction. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me. Dr. Tony opens up what it means that Jesus, for the first time in his life, could not feel the presence of God, and why that detail is the most painful thing in the entire Passion narrative, and also, read against the whole of Psalm 22, not the last word. Readings for next week: Mt 27.57-66; Mk 15.42-47; Lk 23.50-56; Jn 19.38-42 Links mentioned in this episode: - Dr. Tony’s notes on the crucifixion (https://www.stmartininthefields.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/The-Crucifixion.pdf) - Rembrandt’s painting, The Sacrifice of Isaac (​​https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sacrifice_of_Isaac_(Rembrandt)) - Why Did Jesus Have To Die, by Adam Hamilton (https://www.abingdonpress.com/product/9781791040611/) - Entering the Passion of Jesus: A Beginner's Guide to Holy Week (https://a.co/d/89u4GX8) - Christ Chronological Bible (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/143364603X) - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast)

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Bible Love is a conversation about scripture between Mary Balfour Van Zandt (priest at Church of the Epiphany in Guntersville, Ala.) and Alan Bentrup (priest at St. Martin-in-the-Fields in Keller, Texas).

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