Plant Cunning Podcast

Plant Cunning Podcast

Plant Cunning Podcast brings together people wise to the ways of plants, fungi, healing practices, & the natural world to explore the mysteries of Nature. Co-Hosted by astrologer, gardener & musician, Isaac Hill and herbalist & educator A.C. Stauble-Hill. We invite herbalists, mages, mycologists, gardeners, community organizers, healers, spiritual seekers & all kinds of other interesting people to the microphone to share their wisdom. We like to bridge different worlds, make connections, inspire, and at times, have our minds blown by our amazing guests. Enjoy!

  1. 10h ago

    Ep. 243: Temperament & Graeco-Arabic Medicine with Cameron Allen

    On this episode of the Plant Cunning Podcast, herbalist and astrologer Cameron Allen returns to discuss his recent travels and to share updates on his ongoing studies in Ayurveda and Unani Tibb. Cameron explains Unani Tibb as Greco-Arabic (Greek) medicine, clarifying the distinctions between elements, temperaments (mizaaj), and humors, and emphasizes temperament as a dynamic intermixture shaped by environment, time, and life experience. The conversation explores why blending medical and astrological systems can create confusion, how modern astrology often reduces meaning to psychology, and why coherence and consulting skills matter. They examine North American “dryness” as a cultural and lifestyle pattern, discuss practical ways to work with melancholic imbalance and grief, and Cameron previews his upcoming UAC talks on luminaries in medical astrology and remedy-generation approaches.00:00 Welcome Back Cameron00:32 Summer Travels And Retreat01:36 Embodied Sexual Leadership03:32 Ayurveda And Unani Studies06:42 What Is Unani Tibb10:34 Modern Western Astrology Debate14:34 Mixing Systems In Herbalism19:22 Coherence And Elemental Language22:19 Temperament As Intermixture26:19 Core Vs Changing Constitution29:31 Environment As Medicine32:51 Consulting Skills And Teaching Vision36:12 Why We Get Dry38:08 Diet and Drying Foods38:38 Hot vs Cold Metabolism40:17 Reading Dryness in Charts42:38 Purging and Nourishing Traditions44:41 Warming Melancholic Gently48:14 Grief as Melancholic Medicine50:38 Helping Grief Move Through53:31 Saturn and Grief Mastery56:20 Temperaments Elements Humors58:57 Body Types by Temperament01:01:27 Planetary Degrees and Venus01:04:03 Planets as Elemental Landscapes01:05:35 Moon Layers Explained01:06:23 Moon Phases Temperament01:08:46 Physiognomy Rising Signs01:11:43 Reading Bodies Nonverbal01:15:14 Movement Practice Evolution01:18:34 Astrology Community Healing01:23:35 UAC Talks Preview01:26:33 Honest Synthesis Ahead01:28:56 Closing Thanks

    Ep. 243: Temperament & Graeco-Arabic Medicine with Cameron Allen
  2. Aug 12

    Ep. 242: Becoming Mushrooms with Madison Murphy Barney

    Today on the Plant Cunning Podcast we welcome Madison Murphy Barney—doula, two-spirit Indigenous sister, public health storyteller, and author of Our Ancestors Want Us to Be Mushrooms: Wisdom for Living in Balance with the Planet and Each Other. Madison shares how mushrooms offer blueprints for reconnecting with ourselves, community, and the planet through traits like connection, decomposition, adaptability, and humility, emphasizing moving forward with “original instructions” rather than trying to return to the past. They discuss relating to ecosystems anywhere (including cities) through curiosity and noticing, mushrooms’ role in composting and rebuilding systems, and how doula work applies beyond birth and death to divorce, career change, and other transitions by honoring grief, support networks, and cycles. Madison also mentions ceremony, favorite mushrooms, and where to find her work online. 01:19 Meet Madison and Book Launch 02:27 Plant Path Origins 04:05 Why Be Mushrooms 06:26 City Nature Connection 09:00 Why Mushrooms Matter 12:53 Doula Calling and Expansion 17:20 Guiding Change and Grief 22:38 Ancestral and More-than-Human Support 24:33 Living in Cycles28:51 Cycles and Comfort 29:27 Native Plants Debate 30:37 Love of Place 32:05 Mushrooms and Protection 33:33 Adaptability and Neighbors 37:18 Humility in Ecosystems 42:01 Fungi Favorites Today 44:13 What Comes Next 45:25 Who the Book Is For 47:25 Connecting and Closing

    Ep. 242: Becoming Mushrooms with Madison Murphy Barney
  3. Aug 7

    Ep. 241: Telesmanica with Christopher Warnock

    Today on Plant Cunning, Christopher Warnock returns to discuss his new book, Telesmanica, an comprehensive, operative manual of astrological magic. He explains how the book expands beyond technique into worldview, methodology, causality, and the internal logic behind elections, arguing that many contemporary approaches are “bricolage,” mixing techniques without coherent structure or testing. Warnock contrasts modern atheistic materialism with traditional spiritual-first worldviews, using models like ecological “patterning” and mapping to explain how models are tested for usefulness. He outlines his approach to talismans—prioritizing timing, images, and mathematical ratios over materials—emphasizing practical constraints, rigorous selection of key chart factors, and a devotional practice focused on relationship with celestial spirits rather than guaranteed outcomes. 01:04 Why did Christopher Warnock write Telesmanica? 08:59 Worldview and Spiritual Reality 15:02 Models, Meaning and Belief 26:40 Bricolage in Modern Astrology 33:20 Astrology as Language and Intuition 37:32 Getting Readings Wrong 38:25 When Magic Doesn’t Fit 39:17 Worldview and Causality 40:10 What a Talisman Is 41:05 Picking the Right Election 42:41 In Picatrix, Context Matters 45:50 The Cookbook Perspective 52:57 Devotional Angel Practice 54:46 Reality Warping and Limits 56:02 Camouflage Magic Explained 57:54 Modern Anxiety and Ritual 59:10 Problematic Images and Archetypes 01:02:16 Ducks and Spiritual Freedom 01:08:24 Hermetic Lineage History 01:12:52 Reviving a Lost Tradition 01:15:16 Robert Zoller's Advice 01:16:10 Daily Devotional Power 01:17:09 Tradition Beyond Social Media 01:18:36 What Traditional Really Means 01:20:20 Medieval Renaissance Lineage 01:23:32 Applying vs Separating Aspects 01:24:58 Bricolage and Chart Noise 01:26:28 Meta Perspective and Meaning 01:30:00 Why does Christopher Warnock prioritize election and image over materials in the creation of talismans? 01:32:35 Occult Virtue and Platonic Ideas 01:36:43 Practical Talisman Use and Care 01:41:58 Meaning, Nihilism, and Collapse 01:45:37 Preserving Esoteric Texts in an age of Decline 01:47:20 Consciousness Beyond Humanity

    Ep. 241: Telesmanica with Christopher Warnock
  4. Jul 21

    Ep. 240: William Padilla-Brown

    Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026 MycoSymbiotics Mushroom & Art Festival July 29- August 2d, 2026Today on the podcast, AC & Isaac Hill interview mushroom citizen scientist and community builder William Padilla-Brown about his path into mycology, from early curiosity about consciousness and “plant medicine” to diet-driven health struggles that pushed him into growing his own food, foraging, and functional mushrooms. He credits discovering online superfood and medicinal-mushroom content (including David Avocado Wolfe) as a turning point, then explains how mushroom videos took off on YouTube and led him to start MycoSymbiotics and launch MycoFest in 2015 to create a lasting community and legacy for his family. Will recounts cultivating cordyceps after finding a specimen at the first festival, rejecting the idea that it was “impossible,” and learning through observation—treating life as a readable language. He describes MycoSymbiotics’ cutting edge work: wild strain selection, DNA barcoding, cultivation, extraction, third‑party analytics, and making potent products affordable. The conversation also covers ecological literacy through mushrooms, conservation concerns like Pine Barrens development and matsutake habitat loss, the importance and diversity of native truffles (including training a dog to find tuber canaliculatum), aroma as a form of “medicine,” modern distraction and nervous-system hijacking, and adapting to AI by leaning into uniquely human creativity. He closes with MycoFest details (first weekend of August; July 31–Aug 2; MycoFest.net; Artemis, PA; code MYCOMMUNITY), plus MycoSymbiotics sites, classes, a farmer co‑op, and local projects. 00:00 Meet William Padilla-Brown 01:55 Origins in Plant Medicine 06:03 Health Wake Up Call 09:09 David Wolfe and Medicinals 11:28 Myco Symbiote to MycoFest 13:12 Nothing Is Impossible 15:30 Learning From Living Signs 21:05 Mycology Cutting Edge Today 23:44 Matsutake and Habitat Threats 25:29 Truffles as Ecological Gateway 27:16 Native Truffles in Pennsylvania 30:14 Truffles and Sensory Depth 30:41 Overstimulation and Numbness 31:54 Aroma as Medicine 33:58 Capitalism and Responsibility 36:16 Distraction Casino Reality 38:53 Using the System for Good 40:53 Social Media and Rage Bait 44:27 AI Music and Human Spark 48:55 MycoFest and Community Wrap

    Ep. 240: William Padilla-Brown
  5. Jul 15

    Ep. 239: Dreaming Herbs & Scientific Inquiry into Astrology with Will Morris

    Today on the Plant Cunning Podcast, Isaac and AC welcome back Will Morris, PhD, DAOM, MSEd, LAc, RH, a interdisciplinary healer and scholar whose work spans traditional Western and Vedic astrology, Chinese medicine, pulse diagnosis, sound healing, and education. Will explains his compulsive, spiritually driven path across traditions and how transdisciplinary study reveals shared underlying structures, including medical frameworks of location, process, and severity and recurring 12-fold patterns across nature and culture. He critiques mainstream scientific testing of astrology as method-driven, politically shaped, and often logically flawed, arguing the right assessment depends on the question and may require qualitative approaches. The conversation explores intuition, divination versus science, horary use in clinical settings, dreamwork and oneirobotany, mugwort’s shamanic origins, catnip’s “wind” associations, and Will’s upcoming books, including Evidence Ecology: Science and Astrology. 02:10 Why Study Many Traditions? 03:39 Life Path Music to Astrology 08:36 The Benefits of Transdisciplinary Studies 12:00 The Science Industry and Astrology 13:13 Is Astrology Divination or Science? 19:31 Testing Astrology Properly 27:59 Clinical Astrology in Practice 31:07 Book of Dreams and Yesod 32:48 Dreamwork Pulse and Herbs 36:59 Sedative Herbs Mix 37:10 Catnip and Wind Pathology 39:08 Eight Winds and Charts 40:32 Wind as Science Debate 41:23 Dream Plants: Mugwort 42:17 Dybbuk Clearing Story 44:58 Artemisia and Dreamwork 49:08 Cycles and Plant Motion 51:47 Pan Celestial Thesis 01:01:24 Land, Climate and Relocation 01:05:16 Universalism vs Relativism 01:08:15 Books and Future Projects 01:13:45 Closing Thanks

    Ep. 239: Dreaming Herbs & Scientific Inquiry into Astrology with Will Morris
  6. Jul 8

    Ep. 238: Ceremonial Magic in Mexico with Jorge Nájera

    In this episode of the Plant Cunning Podcast, Isaac and AC interview Jorge Nájera in Guadalajara about Mexico’s ceremonial magic scene and his role leading the Fraternidad del Círculo Dorado (Circulo Dorado Web) a mystical and magical school founded in 1986. Najera recounts how a small study group grew through work with BOTA, Golden Dawn-style ritual, Freemasonry, and later affiliation with the Servants of the Light (SOL) lineage of Dion Fortune and Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki. He describes meeting Ashcroft-Nowicki, trips to Egypt, learning to build an “astral temple” and inner contacts, then adapting SOL material for Spanish-speaking students by creating their own structured curriculum centered on astrology, Hermetic and Sephardic Kabbalah, and coherent symbolism. He explains the school’s three-degree model, its emphasis on lived experience and service, and how COVID shifted much of their work online, including new digital tools. 01:04 Meet Jorge in Guadalajara 01:55 Founding the School in 1986 03:08 Early Growth 05:02 Joining Servants of the Light 08:11 Egypt Trip and London Temple 11:06 Astral Temple Training 13:11 Adapting SOL for Latin America 14:56 Building the Curriculum 16:07 Kabbalah as Foundation 19:22 Courses and Temple System 21:05 Jorge’s Early Influences 25:10 Astrology Awakening and Teaching 29:58 Fruits and Mission of the School 33:26 From Rituals to Creativity 34:57 Information vs Wisdom 37:34 Mystery Schools Go Digital 42:14 How does a Mystery School work in the Age of Aquarius? 46:10 The Importance of Coherent Symbolic Training 50:52 The Degrees of Initiation 56:24 The Ideal Student 01:00:02 How to Connect and Closing

    Ep. 238: Ceremonial Magic in Mexico with Jorge Nájera
  7. Jul 1

    Ep. 237: From Soil to Soul with Laurie Szott-Rogers: Plant Archetypes, Tarot & the Council of Plants

    Get your tickets for the Plant Cunning Conference here: Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Find out more about Laurie here: Laurie Szott-Rogers Bio - Self Heal DistributingThis episode of the Plant Cunning Podcast features herbalist, author, gardener, and educator Laurie Szott-Rogers discussing her new book, From Soil to Soul, and her blend of herbalism, astrology, archetypes, tarot, and dreamwork. Laurie shares how dandelion first drew her into plant medicine, her path from early interests and government work to partnering with her husband Robert Rogers, and what her current life looks like in Alberta’s cold climate gardening. She explains her “24 herbs” framework, the Plant Council concept, and how she writes from the plants’ perspectives using attunement, trance, drumming, and automatic writing. The conversation also addresses AI-generated imagery, explores dandelion’s archetypal qualities, and dives into tarragon’s dragon mythology and its King of Swords tarot association, along with practical uses like tarragon pesto.00:00 Meet Laurie Szott-Rogers00:23 Plant Cunning Conference Plug01:41 Her Plant Path Origins02:25 Dandelion First Love03:47 Astrology Meets Herbalism05:43 Life in Alberta Garden09:04 Store Products and Teaching10:17 Council of Plants Concept13:29 Attunement and Plant Rituals16:02 Writing as the Plants17:23 From Soil to Soul and AI Art21:08 Recipes and Dandelion Archetype22:42 Dandelion Resilience Medicine25:05 Planetary Archetypes in Dandelion26:43 Bitterness Shadow and Renewal28:08 Why Humans Love Archetypes29:48 Plant Surprises Mint Myth31:28 Tarragon Dragons and Growing32:55 Tarragon Pesto Kitchen Uses35:03 Tarot Links King of Swords38:42 Neoshamanic Plant Journeying41:07 Next Projects Oracle Deck42:27 Where to Find the Book43:21 Closing Thanks and Farewell

    Ep. 237: From Soil to Soul with Laurie Szott-Rogers: Plant Archetypes, Tarot & the Council of Plants
  8. Jun 24

    Ep.236: Don't Be Afraid of the Herbs: Andrea Beaman on Natural & Spiritual Healing

    Find out more and get your tickets for thePlant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026 here!Today on the Plant Cunning Podcast, hosts Isaac and AC Hill interview nutritionist, health coach, herbalist, and educator Andrea Beaman. She shares how she healed her thyroid through diet and lifestyle changes and later navigated a debilitating 2012–2013 illness she associated with Lyme after recurring lung infections, joint pain, and depression. Beaman discusses fear of herbs as cultural residue from witch trials and modern medical suppression, encourages experimentation with time-tested remedies and kitchen herbs, and stresses grounding, meditation, and heart-based intuition (including muscle testing). She outlines thyroid imbalance symptoms, links many cases to nutritional deficiency and stress, touches on autoimmune thyroid issues and parasites, recounts powerful experiences with trees and ayahuasca, and invites listeners to her courses and Health is Wealth community at andreabeaman.com. 01:29 Meet Andrea Beaman 02:50 A Health Crisis Begins 06:07 How did you find out it was Lyme disease? 09:01 Breakthrough with Teasel 13:09 Herb School and Self Testing 14:16 Trusting Herbs and Tuning In 19:04 Healing Beyond Food 21:47 Thyroid Healing Origins 23:00 Thyroid Signs and Root Causes 32:41 Herbs for Mind and Spirit 34:12 Ayahuasca and Plant Connection 36:06 Do Plants Speak? 41:17 Central Park Tree Spirit 43:11 Why People Fear Herbs 45:03 Witch Trials Trauma Echoes 47:49 Reclaiming Plant Confidence 50:40 Kitchen Herbs and COVID 54:00 Fear Physiology and Hospitals 57:33 Trust Your Heart Intuition 01:01:17 Meditation Cracks the Heart 01:03:11 Rethinking Education and Nature 01:04:34 Where to Learn With Andrea 01:08:17 Simple Recipes and Farewell

    Ep.236: Don't Be Afraid of the Herbs: Andrea Beaman on Natural & Spiritual Healing
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Plant Cunning Podcast brings together people wise to the ways of plants, fungi, healing practices, & the natural world to explore the mysteries of Nature. Co-Hosted by astrologer, gardener & musician, Isaac Hill and herbalist & educator A.C. Stauble-Hill. We invite herbalists, mages, mycologists, gardeners, community organizers, healers, spiritual seekers & all kinds of other interesting people to the microphone to share their wisdom. We like to bridge different worlds, make connections, inspire, and at times, have our minds blown by our amazing guests. Enjoy!

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