Plant Cunning Podcast

Plant Cunning Podcast

Plant Cunning Podcast brings together people wise to the ways of plants, fungi, healing practices, & the natural world to explore the mysteries of Nature. Co-Hosted by astrologer, gardener & musician, Isaac Hill and herbalist & educator A.C. Stauble-Hill. We invite herbalists, mages, mycologists, gardeners, community organizers, healers, spiritual seekers & all kinds of other interesting people to the microphone to share their wisdom. We like to bridge different worlds, make connections, inspire, and at times, have our minds blown by our amazing guests. Enjoy!

  1. 6d ago

    Ep. 238: Ceremonial Magic in Mexico with Jorge Nájera

    In this episode of the Plant Cunning Podcast, Isaac and AC interview Jorge Nájera in Guadalajara about Mexico’s ceremonial magic scene and his role leading the Fraternidad del Círculo Dorado (Circulo Dorado Web) a mystical and magical school founded in 1986. Najera recounts how a small study group grew through work with BOTA, Golden Dawn-style ritual, Freemasonry, and later affiliation with the Servants of the Light (SOL) lineage of Dion Fortune and Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki. He describes meeting Ashcroft-Nowicki, trips to Egypt, learning to build an “astral temple” and inner contacts, then adapting SOL material for Spanish-speaking students by creating their own structured curriculum centered on astrology, Hermetic and Sephardic Kabbalah, and coherent symbolism. He explains the school’s three-degree model, its emphasis on lived experience and service, and how COVID shifted much of their work online, including new digital tools. 01:04 Meet Jorge in Guadalajara 01:55 Founding the School in 1986 03:08 Early Growth 05:02 Joining Servants of the Light 08:11 Egypt Trip and London Temple 11:06 Astral Temple Training 13:11 Adapting SOL for Latin America 14:56 Building the Curriculum 16:07 Kabbalah as Foundation 19:22 Courses and Temple System 21:05 Jorge’s Early Influences 25:10 Astrology Awakening and Teaching 29:58 Fruits and Mission of the School 33:26 From Rituals to Creativity 34:57 Information vs Wisdom 37:34 Mystery Schools Go Digital 42:14 How does a Mystery School work in the Age of Aquarius? 46:10 The Importance of Coherent Symbolic Training 50:52 The Degrees of Initiation 56:24 The Ideal Student 01:00:02 How to Connect and Closing

    Ep. 238: Ceremonial Magic in Mexico with Jorge Nájera
  2. Jul 1

    Ep. 237: From Soil to Soul with Laurie Szott-Rogers: Plant Archetypes, Tarot & the Council of Plants

    Get your tickets for the Plant Cunning Conference here: Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Find out more about Laurie here: Laurie Szott-Rogers Bio - Self Heal DistributingThis episode of the Plant Cunning Podcast features herbalist, author, gardener, and educator Laurie Szott-Rogers discussing her new book, From Soil to Soul, and her blend of herbalism, astrology, archetypes, tarot, and dreamwork. Laurie shares how dandelion first drew her into plant medicine, her path from early interests and government work to partnering with her husband Robert Rogers, and what her current life looks like in Alberta’s cold climate gardening. She explains her “24 herbs” framework, the Plant Council concept, and how she writes from the plants’ perspectives using attunement, trance, drumming, and automatic writing. The conversation also addresses AI-generated imagery, explores dandelion’s archetypal qualities, and dives into tarragon’s dragon mythology and its King of Swords tarot association, along with practical uses like tarragon pesto.00:00 Meet Laurie Szott-Rogers00:23 Plant Cunning Conference Plug01:41 Her Plant Path Origins02:25 Dandelion First Love03:47 Astrology Meets Herbalism05:43 Life in Alberta Garden09:04 Store Products and Teaching10:17 Council of Plants Concept13:29 Attunement and Plant Rituals16:02 Writing as the Plants17:23 From Soil to Soul and AI Art21:08 Recipes and Dandelion Archetype22:42 Dandelion Resilience Medicine25:05 Planetary Archetypes in Dandelion26:43 Bitterness Shadow and Renewal28:08 Why Humans Love Archetypes29:48 Plant Surprises Mint Myth31:28 Tarragon Dragons and Growing32:55 Tarragon Pesto Kitchen Uses35:03 Tarot Links King of Swords38:42 Neoshamanic Plant Journeying41:07 Next Projects Oracle Deck42:27 Where to Find the Book43:21 Closing Thanks and Farewell

    Ep. 237: From Soil to Soul with Laurie Szott-Rogers: Plant Archetypes, Tarot & the Council of Plants
  3. Jun 24

    Ep.236: Don't Be Afraid of the Herbs: Andrea Beaman on Natural & Spiritual Healing

    Find out more and get your tickets for thePlant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026 here!Today on the Plant Cunning Podcast, hosts Isaac and AC Hill interview nutritionist, health coach, herbalist, and educator Andrea Beaman. She shares how she healed her thyroid through diet and lifestyle changes and later navigated a debilitating 2012–2013 illness she associated with Lyme after recurring lung infections, joint pain, and depression. Beaman discusses fear of herbs as cultural residue from witch trials and modern medical suppression, encourages experimentation with time-tested remedies and kitchen herbs, and stresses grounding, meditation, and heart-based intuition (including muscle testing). She outlines thyroid imbalance symptoms, links many cases to nutritional deficiency and stress, touches on autoimmune thyroid issues and parasites, recounts powerful experiences with trees and ayahuasca, and invites listeners to her courses and Health is Wealth community at andreabeaman.com. 01:29 Meet Andrea Beaman 02:50 A Health Crisis Begins 06:07 How did you find out it was Lyme disease? 09:01 Breakthrough with Teasel 13:09 Herb School and Self Testing 14:16 Trusting Herbs and Tuning In 19:04 Healing Beyond Food 21:47 Thyroid Healing Origins 23:00 Thyroid Signs and Root Causes 32:41 Herbs for Mind and Spirit 34:12 Ayahuasca and Plant Connection 36:06 Do Plants Speak? 41:17 Central Park Tree Spirit 43:11 Why People Fear Herbs 45:03 Witch Trials Trauma Echoes 47:49 Reclaiming Plant Confidence 50:40 Kitchen Herbs and COVID 54:00 Fear Physiology and Hospitals 57:33 Trust Your Heart Intuition 01:01:17 Meditation Cracks the Heart 01:03:11 Rethinking Education and Nature 01:04:34 Where to Learn With Andrea 01:08:17 Simple Recipes and Farewell

    Ep.236: Don't Be Afraid of the Herbs: Andrea Beaman on Natural & Spiritual Healing
  4. Jun 17

    Ep. 235: Summer 2026 Astrological Forecast with ZamboniFunk

    Find out more about the Plant Cunning Conference at Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Astrologer ZamboniFunk returns to talk about the astrological forecast for summer 2026! We discuss the Cancer Mercury retrograde as a loud season for mistakes, delays, review, and serendipity, followed by Mars entering Gemini and conjoining Uranus, trining Pluto in Aquarius, heightening anxiety, disruption, experimentation, and possible tech/cybersecurity volatility. Jupiter’s move into Leo is framed as more defensive support amid “pirate season” boundary-testing, with a key July 29 Jupiter cazimi opposite Pluto alongside a full moon conjunct Pluto, suggesting power plays and revelations. The episode closes with herbal support for stress and heart strain: harvesting motherwort, and combining it with hawthorn and rose for courage, boundaries, grief, and tension. 00:00 Podcast Welcome 00:20 Conference Announcement 01:17 Summer Forecast Begins 01:55 Mercury Retrograde Setup 03:38 Mars Uranus Volatility 06:25 Experimentation Pirate Season 08:41 Mercury Retrograde Lessons 14:04 Jupiter Enters Leo 20:04 Jupiter Pluto Power Plays 23:03 Nodes Shift Authority 24:18 Era of Air Metaphor 24:58 Redistribution Scenarios 26:36 Mutual Aid Power 27:19 Jupiter Pluto Togetherness 28:28 Eclipses Chaos Reset 29:37 Robots Hive Mind 31:09 Adaptability Job Shakeup 34:46 Pirate Season Skills 35:29 Motherwort Heart Medicine 38:18 Hawthorn Boundaries 40:44 Courage Against Tech Future 43:05 Delusion & Hope 47:37 Conference And Farewell

  5. Jun 10

    Ep. 234: Earth Energy, Dragons and Faeries with Trista Haggerty

    Find out more about the Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Today, AC & Isaac interview Trista Haggerty, author of When the Dark Mother Calls, about her path into mysticism after a dark night of the soul and two decades of mentoring with a German mystic while traveling to sacred sites in places such as Peru and Ireland. They discuss what makes power spots sacred, stone circles as “acupuncture,” and caves as initiation spaces, plus practices for trusting intuition through body-based discernment. Trista shares her work at Hawk Circle, a couple-hundred-acre land project where she’s building stone circle, trails, and a perfumery inspired by Egyptian temple recipes to fund youth nature programs. The conversation also explores fairies, dragons, the “threefold path,” and her upcoming talk at the Plant Cunning Conference (July 24–26) alongside other speakers. 01:38 Trista Meets Her Mentor 03:31 First Sacred Site Journeys 06:21 Earth-Based Mysticism Lessons 08:22 What Makes Sites Sacred 11:26 Primal Earth Energy Work 15:08 Mystic Path and Hidden Teachings 19:07 Trusting Intuition in Noise 23:51 Hawk Circle Vision and Land 29:51 Perfumery and Temple Scents 31:49 Essential Oils Impact 32:04 Ritual Perfumery Journey 33:11 Fairy Lore Explained 37:15 Threefold Path Teachings 40:14 Dragons and the Land 42:08 First Dragon Encounter 43:45 Connecting With Dragons 47:39 Awakening Landscape Dragons 48:38 Dragon Humor and Myths 53:31 New Earth Vision 56:41 When the Dark Mother Calls

    Ep. 234: Earth Energy, Dragons and Faeries with Trista Haggerty
  6. Jun 3

    Ep. 233: The Hot Tincture Method with Mary Blue

    Learn more about the Plant Cunning Conference at:Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026On this episode, Isaac and AC welcome community herbalist, author, and teacher Mary Blue to talk about the "hot tincture method" and why applying a hot water extraction can dramatically improve tincture color, aroma, taste, and effectiveness while saving plant material, storage space, and time. Mary shares her path from environmental and protest activism into herbalism, her day-to-day running an herb shop and farm, and the mentors and experiences that shaped her teaching focus on herbal actions and solvency. They discuss safety lessons learned from heating alcohol, plant-specific considerations (including mushrooms, marshmallow, comfrey, and milk thistle), glycerins and oils, and how herbalism functions as a form of activism through accessibility, community support, and sustainable practice. 02:23 Meet Mary Blue 02:55 Activism To Herbalism 04:46 Running Farmacy Herbs 06:14 Mentors And Training 08:01 Teaching Solvency Basics 09:55 Common Solvency Confusions 11:26 Accessible Teaching Methods 13:53 The "Hot Tincture Method" Explained 16:19 Why It Works Better 23:09 How Mary Blue almost burned down her apothecary 28:01 Tincture Ratios 31:24 When Not to Tincture 31:50 Comfrey Safety Debate 33:12 Liniments and Compresses 34:43 Glycerins and Pre Extraction 36:01 Heating Oils for Extraction 36:29 Classes and Farm Intensives 37:46 Hosting Herbal Events 39:25 Herbalism as Activism 40:55 Burnout to Micro Activism 47:02 Fulfillment Through Service 47:58 The Future of Herbalism s52:55 Creativity and Community Play

    Ep. 233: The Hot Tincture Method with Mary Blue
  7. May 27

    Ep. 232: David Holmgren on Permaculture's Origins & Building Resilient Households

    Get your tickets for the Plant Cunning Conference here: Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Today on the show, Isaac & AC welcome David Holmgren, co-originator of the Permaculture concept.In this episode, David describes life at Melliodora in Central Victoria with three semi-autonomous households sharing work and produce, and recounts how he came to the “plant path” through plant ID, foraging, and early research for Permaculture One. He tells the story of meeting Bill Mollison in 1974 and how the idea of agriculture functioning like a forest became a seed of permaculture, while reflecting on Mollison’s charisma and difficulty. The conversation explores holistic thinking versus reductionism, DIY self-reliance, cycles of skill loss and renewal, COVID’s impact on interest in permaculture and RetroSuburbia, “enlightened self-interest,” energy descent and relocalization, household-scale resilience including health capacity, and where to find Holmgren’s essays and websites. 02:11 Meet David Holmgren 03:47 Finding the Plant Path 06:04 Chance Meeting with Bill Mollison 08:15 Permaculture Seed Idea 12:12 Working with a Charismatic Genius 15:31 Patterns vs Practice 21:13 DIY Skills and Tasmania Culture 24:27 Cycles of Self Reliance 28:17 COVID and RetroSuburbia Spike 30:07 Enlightened Self Interest Explained 37:29 Humans as Keystone Species 38:26 Hierarchy and Elite Corruption 40:35 Predators and Power 41:25 Fossil Fuel Hierarchy 42:42 Globalists vs Sovereigntists 44:11 Household Resilience Basics 45:35 Health as Weak Link 47:44 Bigger Households Work 52:17 Household Beats Consensus 55:23 Food Growing Mindset 59:09 Jack of all trades, Master of One 01:03:06 Why Intentional Communities Fail 01:06:49 Brown Tech Uncertainty 01:08:32 Tower of Babel Reality 01:12:35 Long Descent Balance 01:16:29 Essays and Resources 01:19:30 Final Thanks and Wrap

    Ep. 232: David Holmgren on Permaculture's Origins & Building Resilient Households
  8. May 13

    Ep. 231: Embodied Astrology with Gary Caton

    Sign up for the free Herbal Dental Care class here: https://courses.herbrally.com/a/2148265685/vCybToz9 Get The Zodiac Garden Guide here: Amazon.com: The Zodiac Garden Guide: A Handbook of Astrological Gardening: 9798253036525: Hill, Isaac Alexander, Cole, Freedom: Books Get your tickets for the Plant Cunning Conference here: Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Today, Isaac and AC welcome Gary P. Caton, the "Hermetic Astrologer" to discuss embodied astrology—going outside to directly observe and relate with the planets. Caton recounts his father teaching him to plant by the Moon, a 1993 dream tied to a Sun–Venus conjunction, and his experience with Project Hindsight translations that renewed interest in sky-based practice. He describes conversations and synchronicities with Venus and plants, argues astrologers have an ethical imperative to know the sky firsthand, and explains practical entry points like tracking Venus’s seven Moon conjunctions and working with new/full moons for intentions. The conversation also explores ethics, seasonality, civilization cycles, and “seed people.” 03:15 Meet Gary Caton 03:36 Origins in Astrology 05:32 Venus Dream Awakening 08:57 Planets and Plants Talk 11:45 Why "Embodied Astrology"? 13:59 Civilization and Planets 18:12 Hermes Myth and Charts 23:22 Start Embodied Astrology 26:25 Venus Cycle Dates 29:17 Moon Cycles and Seeds 31:01 Dark Moon and Ethics 34:16 Waning Moon Decrease 36:08 Disseminating Phase Seeds 37:15 Rudhyar Autumn Metaphor 39:07 Science and Hermeticism 40:38 Becoming Seed People 44:58 The Elements, Love and Strife 47:22 Ape Hierarchies Embodiment 51:38 Sunrise Ritual Nature Healing 55:37 Quiet Desert Homecoming 57:31 Where to Find Gary 59:47 Biodynamic Planting Calendar 01:02:33 Wrap Up and Thanks

    Ep. 231: Embodied Astrology with Gary Caton
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Plant Cunning Podcast brings together people wise to the ways of plants, fungi, healing practices, & the natural world to explore the mysteries of Nature. Co-Hosted by astrologer, gardener & musician, Isaac Hill and herbalist & educator A.C. Stauble-Hill. We invite herbalists, mages, mycologists, gardeners, community organizers, healers, spiritual seekers & all kinds of other interesting people to the microphone to share their wisdom. We like to bridge different worlds, make connections, inspire, and at times, have our minds blown by our amazing guests. Enjoy!

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