In this episode of Where Work Meets Life, Dr. Laura sits down with Dr. Max Klau, author of Developing Servant Leaders at Scale and founder of the Center for Courageous Wholeness, to explore why leadership begins with the courage to look inward. They explore the often overlooked concept of shadow, the parts of ourselves we deny, avoid, or leave unexplored, and how these hidden aspects can influence the way we lead and exercise power. Drawing on decades of experience developing leaders in organizations and public service, Max shares why confronting our shadow is essential for creating more compassionate, grounded, and effective leadership in today's world. Max has worked with organizations, civic leaders, and aspiring public servants, which has led him to understand how servant leadership requires more than good intentions. It calls for an ongoing commitment to self-awareness, humility, and personal growth. He and Dr. Laura discuss the relationship between power and purpose, the difference between leading from service versus ego, and why organizations benefit when leaders are willing to acknowledge both their strengths and their blind spots. Together, they explore how greater compassion and integrity can help create healthier workplaces, stronger communities, and a more hopeful future for our world. "The most dangerous people are the folks who are absolutely convinced that they are pure light." - Max Klau About Max Klau: Dr. Max Klau is an author, consultant, coach, developmental psychologist, and founder of the Center for Courageous Wholeness. His work sits at the intersection of inner development and service to others, helping organizations and individuals practice shadow-integrated servant leadership. After more than two decades designing transformational leadership development programs at City Year and the New Politics Leadership Academy, Dr. Klau developed an approach that views leadership as a dual journey of both inner and outer change. He believes that integrating personal development with meaningful impact is essential in a time of increasing complexity, uncertainty, and social change. Central to his work is the practice of confronting shadow, the aspects of ourselves we often avoid acknowledging because they make us uncomfortable, yet profoundly influence how we lead and serve. Dr. Klau is the author of Developing Servant Leaders at Scale: How to Do It and Why It Matters, which explores the practical methodology he developed through years of experimentation, innovation, and leadership development practice. The book outlines how organizations can cultivate servant leaders while fostering both personal growth and collective impact. Through the Center for Courageous Wholeness, Dr. Klau offers coaching, retreats, keynote presentations, and organizational consulting, all grounded in the belief that inner and outer change are deeply interconnected. He partners with values-driven organizations, leaders, teams, and communities that are committed to confronting their shadow as they seek to serve others. Resources: Dr. Max Klau LinkedIn Center for Courageous Wholeness LinkedIn “Developing Servant Leaders at Scale: How to Do It and Why It Matters” by Max Klau “Servant Leadership” by Robert K. Greenleaf Podcast: Pulling the Thread by Elise Loehnen “I Wish I’d Quit Sooner: Practical Strategies for Navigating and Escaping a Toxic Boss” by Dr. Laura Hambley Lovett Dr. Laura on LinkedIn Where Work Meets Life™ on YouTube Learn more about Dr. Laura on her website: https://drlaura.live For more resources, look into Dr. Laura’s organizations: Canada Career Counselling Synthesis Psychology Order Dr. Laura’s new book today: I Wish I’d Quit Sooner: Practical Strategies for Navigating a Toxic Boss Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
