Talking Pools Podcast

Rudy Stankowitz

Forget chasing chlorine headaches and battling algae wars alone. The Talking Pools Podcast is your weekly escape from pool purgatory, where 250+ years of combined pro wisdom explodes into actionable hacks, mind-blowing tips, and secrets so ancient they make Poseidon jealous. Think of it as your weekly poolside braintrust, fueled by eight seasoned pros, each a rockstar in their own aquatic lane. Got a filtration fiasco? Chemical conundrum? Equipment enigma? No problem. We've got a host for that: The Tech Titan: Unravels the mysteries of pumps, filters, and gizmos that make pools tick (without the electrical shocks). The Chem Crusader: Your personal alchemist, whipping up potion-perfect water balance with a dash of science and a sprinkle of magic. The Maintenance Maverick: From tile tricks to algae assassins, he's got the lowdown on keeping your pool looking like a liquid emerald palace. The Customer Calmer: Smooths ruffled feathers faster than a pool noodle bouquet, turning hangry homeowners into poolside pals. But Talking Pools isn't just about technical wizardry. It's about camaraderie, the shared language of pool pros who've seen it all, from exploding filters to synchronized swimming squirrels (no, really, we had an episode!). Every week, you'll: Steal game-changing secrets: Learn pro-grade hacks to make you the "Pool Whisperer" in your market Laugh until you spit out your piña colada: These guys are as witty as they are wise, turning pool problems into poolside punchlines. Get ahead of the curve: Stay on top of industry trends and tech before your competitors even smell the chlorine. Feel the love (and the sunshine): Remember why you got into this business in the first place – the joy of creating backyard oases where memories are made. So, ditch the Drano, grab your headphones, and dive into the Talking Pools Podcast. It's your weekly dose of poolside wisdom, laughter, and community. We'll see you on the flip side! P.S. Subscribe now and you might just win a case of pool party essentials (floaties not included, sorry squirrels). P.P.S. Tell your pool-loving friends – sharing knowledge is like sharing sunscreen, it protects everyone!

  1. What the Skimmer Report Is Really Telling You 🫵

    2D AGO

    What the Skimmer Report Is Really Telling You 🫵

    Pool Pros text questions here No arrests. No indictments. No viral footage of someone in a polo getting walked past a plaster truck in handcuffs. And yet—this was not a quiet week. In this Friday episode of the Talking Pools Podcast, Rudy Stankowitz breaks down what actually moved the needle in the pool industry this week: quiet signals, structural shifts, and the 2026 Skimmer State of the Pool Service Report—misread by many, misunderstood by most, and weaponized incorrectly on social media. This is not a recap episode.  This is not a highlight reel.  And it sure as hell isn’t a kumbaya moment. Rudy dissects what the report claims, what it measures, and—more importantly—what it doesn’t. From survey bias and geographic concentration to overhead pressure, chemical risk transfer, pricing restraint, labor constraints, AI realities, and the slow death of handshake-based operations, this episode pulls the curtain back on what “professionalization” really means. Spoiler: it’s not growth—it’s survival with a spreadsheet. In This Episode, You’ll Hear: • Why the 2026 “State of the Pool Industry” is not actually the state of the entire industry • How survey bias, telemetry bias, and geography skew conclusions • Why optimism in the report is coming from restraint, not expansion • The real meaning behind rising overhead percentages and sticky fixed costs • What declining “maintenance expense” actually signals (hint: accounting, not cheaper chemicals) • Monthly billing: why recurring revenue magnifies bad unit economics • The quiet but powerful shift in chemical risk allocation • Why deposits are becoming standard—and what that says about market power • Labor as the true binding constraint (and why AI isn’t fixing it) • How national brands aren’t stealing customers—they’re stealing employees • Why efficiency-first strategies signal margin indication, not abundance • What the report avoids measuring—and why those omissions matter • How disciplined operators will look calm while undisciplined ones experience chaos • The difference between what looks good on paper and what blows up Tuesday at 7:30 AM Key Takeaway: This report isn’t comfort food.  It’s a diagnostic. AquaStar Pool ProductsThe Global Leader in Safety, Dependability, & Innovation in Pool Technology.POOL MAGAZINE Pool Magazine is leading up to the minute news source for Swimming Pool News and Pool Features. OuBLUERAY XLThe real mineral purifier! Reduce your pool maintenance costs & efforts by 50%Jack's MagicIf you know Jack's you'd have no stains!Service Industry NewsOnline Pool ClassesThe difference between you and your competition is what you know!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Email us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    36 min
  2. Trade Show Attendance

    3D AGO

    Trade Show Attendance

    Pool Pros text questions here In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, hosts Steve and Wayne discuss the ongoing trade show season in the pool industry, the impact of weather on attendance, and the importance of insurance and liability considerations for pool service professionals. They share personal anecdotes and insights about navigating trade shows, the significance of networking, and the challenges of managing liability in pool services, especially concerning diving boards and hillside pools. Takeaways Trade shows are crucial for networking and education in the pool industry. Weather can significantly impact attendance at trade shows, but it's not the only factor. Insurance coverage is essential for pool service professionals to protect against liability. Diving boards and slides pose significant risks and require careful management. It's important to have clients sign hold harmless agreements for risky features. Trade shows can be expensive, but they offer valuable opportunities for learning and connection. Understanding the nuances of insurance can save professionals from costly claims. Networking at trade shows can lead to long-term industry relationships. The timing of trade shows is often influenced by economic factors and industry schedules. Attending trade shows requires planning to maximize benefits and minimize costs. Sound bites "Trade show season is well underway." "It's all about the money." "Insurance claims can be costly." Chapters 00:00 Trade Show Season Insights 17:06 Navigating Pool Inspections and Liability 24:43 Navigating Legal Risks in Pool Service 25:43 Understanding Liability with Diving Boards and Slides 28:16 Risk Management Strategies for Pool Service Providers 29:28 The Importance of Communication with Clients 29:54 Trade Shows: Opportunities and Challenges 33:55 The Evolution of Trade Show Costs 36:52 Feedback and Interaction at Trade Shows 38:23 Maximizing Value from Trade Show Attendance 41:59 Common Pool Maintenance Challenges 47:58 Conclusion and Listener Engagement LaMotte CompanyLaMotte Company is a leading manufacturer of water quality testing products & pool test kitsCalifornia Pool AssociationPool Industry Trade OrganizationCMAHCThe Council for the Model Aquatic Health Code promotes health & safety at public swimming poolsDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Email us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    51 min
  3. ICF Pools with Manny Sanchez

    4D AGO

    ICF Pools with Manny Sanchez

    Pool Pros text questions here In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, Natalie Hood and Manny Sanchez delve into the world of Insulated Concrete Form (ICF) pools, addressing common misconceptions, cost comparisons, and the advantages of ICF over traditional pool construction methods. They explore the strength, energy efficiency, and design flexibility of ICF pools, while also discussing the building process and maintenance requirements. The conversation highlights the growing popularity of ICF pools as a modern solution for pool construction, emphasizing their benefits in various climates and conditions. Takeaways ICF pools are misunderstood but offer significant advantages. Cost factors for ICF pools are often misrepresented. ICF provides superior insulation and structural integrity. Design flexibility is a key benefit of ICF pools. ICF pools can be built faster and with less waste. Energy efficiency is a major advantage of ICF pools. ICF pools require less maintenance than traditional pools. Modern finishes can be effectively applied to ICF pools. ICF pools are suitable for various climates and conditions. The future of pool construction is leaning towards ICF technology. Sound bites "ICF pools deliver strength, efficiency, speed." "ICF is the gold standard for basements." "ICF pools provide superior thermal insulation." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to ICF Pools 02:52 Understanding ICF: Myths and Realities 05:33 Cost Comparisons: ICF vs Traditional Pools 08:05 ICF Pools: Strength and Durability 11:04 Design Flexibility and Applications of ICF Pools 13:49 Energy Efficiency and Maintenance of ICF Pools 16:21 Building Process: ICF vs Shotcrete 19:02 Environmental Impact and Waste Reduction 22:12 Modern Finishes for ICF Pools 24:32 Conclusion and Future of ICF Pools The Grit GameThe Grit Game, is not just playing the game, we’re changing it. 500+ years industry experience, Revdup Apparel a custom apparel company built for the pool industry. Founded by pool professionalsDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Email us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    33 min
  4. SWG's Get a Bad Rap!

    6D AGO

    SWG's Get a Bad Rap!

    Pool Pros text questions here Introduction: In the latest episode of the Talking Pools podcast, hosts Lee and Shane delve into the complexities of pool maintenance, sharing their personal experiences and troubleshooting tips. This blog post aims to summarize their conversation, providing valuable insights into common challenges faced by pool professionals and enthusiasts alike. Understanding Public Holidays and Their Impact on Work Lee and Shane kick off the episode by discussing the significance of public holidays in Australia and New Zealand, specifically Australia Day and Auckland Anniversary Day. While these holidays are opportunities for celebration, they also impact scheduling and workload for pool maintenance professionals. Shane humorously notes the importance of planning around these days, particularly when encountering unexpected challenges in the field. The Reality of Pump Issues One of the main topics of discussion revolves around pump priming issues that Shane experienced during a recent pool maintenance job. He describes a scenario where a vacuum connection caused the pump to deprive, leading to a frustrating situation where he couldn't effectively vacuum the pool. Shane emphasizes the importance of understanding the plumbing setup, as certain configurations can lead to complications. He shares a key takeaway: troubleshooting is an essential skill for anyone in the pool maintenance industry. Troubleshooting Techniques Shane recounts his experience with a challenging pool that had persistent algae problems. Despite previous treatments, the chlorine residual remained at zero. This led to a process of elimination where Shane and his team had to consider various factors, including the pool’s filtration system and potential dead zones. Lee suggests using chlorine dioxide tablets as an additional measure, highlighting the importance of adapting strategies based on the specific needs of each pool. Chlorine vs. Saltwater Systems The conversation shifts to the ongoing debate between chlorine and saltwater systems. Lee points out that both systems have their pros and cons, and the choice often depends on individual preferences and circumstances. They discuss the corrosive nature of salt and how it can impact equipment over time, drawing on their extensive experience with saltwater chlorinators in Australia and New Zealand. Conclusion: Key Takeaways The episode concludes with a reminder of the complexities involved in pool maintenance. Lee and Shane emphasize the need for adaptability, problem-solving skills, and a thorough understanding of pool systems. By sharing their experiences and insights, they provide invaluable guidance for those in the industry or anyone looking to maintain their own pool. Remember, whether it’s navigating public holidays, troubleshooting pump issues, or choosing between chlorine and saltwater systems, the key is to stay informed and proactive. Tags: Pool Maintenance, Troubleshooting, Chlorine, Saltwater Systems, Pool Care, Talking Pools Podcast, Pool Professionals, Australia, New Zealand, Pool Cleaning BufferZoneBufferZone has been created by a frustrated pool maintenance companyDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Email us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    43 min
  5. Transforming Pool Problems into Solutions

    JAN 31

    Transforming Pool Problems into Solutions

    Pool Pros text questions here In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, host Kelly welcomes Matt Ryther, the chairman of the PHTA Service Council, to discuss the vital role of the council in educating pool service professionals. They delve into common pool problems, emphasizing that many issues stem from design flaws rather than chemistry or service errors. Matt highlights the importance of understanding how components such as pumps, filters, and sanitizers interact to effectively diagnose and resolve these issues.  As the discussion progresses, they explore the evolving landscape of pool technology, including variable speed pumps and the need for updated training materials. Matt shares insights on route management strategies to enhance operational efficiency and employee morale, emphasizing the importance of structured routes to reduce burnout among service technicians. The episode concludes with a call to action for industry professionals to engage with educational resources and stay informed about best practices, ultimately aiming to improve the perception and professionalism of the pool service industry. takeaways Most pool problems are design issues, not chemistry.Education boosts efficiency and reduces job time.Proper pump sizing is crucial for system performance.Route management can reduce employee burnout.Continuous education is key to professionalizing the industry.Sound Bites "No myths, no guesswork, just knowledge.""A focused approach to swimming pool route management.""It's pump sizing and hydraulics that decides whether water behaves or rebels." Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Email us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    25 min
  6. No Douche Thursdays: A New Approach to Pool Service

    JAN 29

    No Douche Thursdays: A New Approach to Pool Service

    Pool Pros text questions here In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, the hosts discuss the importance of professionalism in the pool service industry, emphasizing the need for effective communication, the value of experience, and the significance of proper training for new employees. They also touch on the challenges of managing online interactions and the impact of criticism, advocating for kindness and understanding in all professional dealings. Additionally, the conversation explores the implications of insurance and retirement planning for pool service professionals, highlighting the need for thorough preparation and awareness of industry standards. takeaways The podcast emphasizes a 'No Douches' policy to foster a positive environment.Experience in the pool industry is invaluable and shapes service practices.Insurance considerations are crucial for those nearing retirement in the pool service industry.Effective communication is essential for maintaining client relationships.Training new employees is vital for ensuring quality service and knowledge retention.Handling criticism with kindness can improve professional interactions.The internet has changed how professionals interact and manage feedback.Staying informed about industry trends is important for future success.Documentation and communication can protect service providers from liability.Professionalism and kindness should be at the forefront of all business dealings. Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Email us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    1h 5m
  7. Don't Get Mad - Get Maddy!

    JAN 28

    Don't Get Mad - Get Maddy!

    Pool Pros text questions here Welcome back for the second half of this episode, where Natalie Hood (The Grit Game) sits down with Maddie Vandiver from The Pool Butler and turns “aquatic leadership” from a vague buzzword into something you can actually use. Maddie’s story starts where a lot of strong aquatics careers start: in the water. Lifeguarding, wave pool duty, swim lessons, coaching, and the realization that when she tried to leave aquatics behind, it didn’t take long before she came right back—because this industry isn’t just a job, it’s a place people belong. From there, Maddie’s path moves fast: maintenance tech, running commercial routes, stepping into repairs, then taking on maintenance supervisor responsibilities, and ultimately stepping into a formal company trainer role. What makes her stand out is not the title, but the mission behind it: she’s obsessed with standards, safety, and building a team that doesn’t fall apart at the weakest link. This segment hits several leadership myths head-on, starting with the idea that one training program fits all regions. Maddie breaks down why that fails in the real world: people learn differently, staff goals vary wildly, and even within one state the climate, equipment norms, and fuel infrastructure can change how pools are operated and serviced. Her approach is individualized training paths for everyone, including office staff, based not only on what the employee needs right now, but where they want to go next. She also explains the risk of “one-size-fits-all” training creating “robots”—teams who can repeat steps, but freeze when anything unusual happens. Her north star is simple and brutal: teach the why, because without it you get compliance, not competence. From there, the conversation shifts to what a trainer’s role should actually be. Maddie makes a strong case that training isn’t just teaching skills—it’s developing people. Being effective means being personable, building trust, and being available when problems hit. She and Natalie talk about how the best leaders don’t have to be overly personal, but they do need to be human, because a few minutes of real connection can reset a tech who just had a rough customer interaction or a stressful site situation. They also touch on how mentoring doesn’t stop when someone changes jobs—the industry is small, relationships last, and strong pros keep strong resources. Another myth gets put on trial: managers don’t need aquatics experience. Maddie gives a balanced take—business acumen matters, but aquatics knowledge is essential because the stakes are different here. This is not an industry where you can “learn it later” without consequences. When you mix water, electricity, and chemicals, safety becomes non-negotiable, and decision-makers must understand the significance of operational risks before they become incidents. She explains that the right balance looks like a manager who knows enough aquatics fundamentals to recognize urgency and risk, and enough business fundamentals to make operational decisions that don’t light money on fire—like routing inefficienci The Grit GameThe Grit Game, is not just playing the game, we’re changing it. 500+ years industry experience, Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Email us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    23 min
4.7
out of 5
113 Ratings

About

Forget chasing chlorine headaches and battling algae wars alone. The Talking Pools Podcast is your weekly escape from pool purgatory, where 250+ years of combined pro wisdom explodes into actionable hacks, mind-blowing tips, and secrets so ancient they make Poseidon jealous. Think of it as your weekly poolside braintrust, fueled by eight seasoned pros, each a rockstar in their own aquatic lane. Got a filtration fiasco? Chemical conundrum? Equipment enigma? No problem. We've got a host for that: The Tech Titan: Unravels the mysteries of pumps, filters, and gizmos that make pools tick (without the electrical shocks). The Chem Crusader: Your personal alchemist, whipping up potion-perfect water balance with a dash of science and a sprinkle of magic. The Maintenance Maverick: From tile tricks to algae assassins, he's got the lowdown on keeping your pool looking like a liquid emerald palace. The Customer Calmer: Smooths ruffled feathers faster than a pool noodle bouquet, turning hangry homeowners into poolside pals. But Talking Pools isn't just about technical wizardry. It's about camaraderie, the shared language of pool pros who've seen it all, from exploding filters to synchronized swimming squirrels (no, really, we had an episode!). Every week, you'll: Steal game-changing secrets: Learn pro-grade hacks to make you the "Pool Whisperer" in your market Laugh until you spit out your piña colada: These guys are as witty as they are wise, turning pool problems into poolside punchlines. Get ahead of the curve: Stay on top of industry trends and tech before your competitors even smell the chlorine. Feel the love (and the sunshine): Remember why you got into this business in the first place – the joy of creating backyard oases where memories are made. So, ditch the Drano, grab your headphones, and dive into the Talking Pools Podcast. It's your weekly dose of poolside wisdom, laughter, and community. We'll see you on the flip side! P.S. Subscribe now and you might just win a case of pool party essentials (floaties not included, sorry squirrels). P.P.S. Tell your pool-loving friends – sharing knowledge is like sharing sunscreen, it protects everyone!

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