Talking Pools Podcast

Rudy Stankowitz

If you’ve ever stared at a test kit like it personally insulted your family… welcome home. Talking Pools Podcast is the pool industry’s “pull up a chair” show—part shop talk, part field manual, part therapy session—built for people who actually live on pool decks: commercial operators, service techs, builders, facility managers, and anyone responsible for water that can’t afford to go sideways. The network was created to level up the pool industry with real-world conversations on water chemistry, filtration, troubleshooting, construction, safety, and the business side of keeping pools open and budgets intact.  Here’s the hook: it’s not theory-first. It’s experience-first—a roster of seasoned pros (with 250+ years of combined “been there, fixed that” wisdom) turning complicated problems into practical moves you can use the same day.  And it’s not one voice, one vibe, one corner of the industry: it’s a network of shows designed to reflect how diverse this work really is—different regions, different specialties, different personalities.  Also worth saying out loud: women aren’t “special guests” here—they’re on the mic as hosts, from the beginning, with an intentionally balanced roster.  That matters, because the best ideas in this industry don’t come from one lane—they come from the whole road. If you want a podcast that can make you laugh and make you better at what you do—without pretending the job is easier than it is—Talking Pools is the one you queue up before the first stop, and keep on when the day starts getting weird. 

  1. 13h ago

    Eric Knight Joins Pool Brain

    Send us Fan Mail Natalie Hood welcomes Eric Knight back to the Talking Pools Podcast to discuss his move from Watershape University to Pool Brain—and what this new role could mean for pool service professionals. Eric explains how a conversation that began in 2022 eventually developed into an opportunity to combine the work he does best: water chemistry, education, technology, and solving real-world problems for technicians in the field. He also clears up the speculation surrounding his departure from Watershape University. There was no drama, no burned bridge, and no scandal—just an honest recognition of his strengths and an opportunity that better fits how his brain works. The conversation then turns toward the future of the pool industry. Eric explains why artificial intelligence is unlikely to replace pool technicians, but will increasingly help them make better decisions, optimize routes, train employees, standardize service, and operate more profitable businesses. Eric also offers an early look at Pool Brain’s vision for automated chemical dosing, guided technician workflows, and “point-of-need education”—giving technicians the information they need while they are standing in front of the pool, instead of making them wait for the next class or trade show. In This Episode Why Eric Knight joined Pool BrainHow his relationship with Pool Brain began in 2022The truth about his departure from Watershape UniversityWhy recognizing your weaknesses is an important leadership skillWhat Eric is most proud of accomplishing at WatershapeWhy traditional industry education is becoming cost-prohibitiveHow AI will assist pool professionals without replacing field techniciansWhy more displaced white-collar workers are entering the tradesThe story behind the Orenda Calculator and ChemiculatorHow technology can eliminate dangerous chemical-dosing shortcutsWhat automated water-chemistry dosing could mean for service companiesHow guided workflows can improve training, safety, and accountabilityWhy technicians need education at the exact moment a problem occursThis is Part One of Natalie Hood’s conversation with Eric Knight. Tune in next Wednesday for Part Two as they continue discussing his new role at Pool Brain and the technology being developed to support the next generation of pool professionals. Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Eric Knight Joins Pool Brain
  2. 2d ago

    Salt

    Send us Fan Mail In the conclusion of our conversation with Lee Moore and Blake, Technical Director at AIS Water, we examine what it takes to make saltwater chlorination work reliably in demanding commercial environments. Commercial pools cannot be managed by reacting to every change with another drum of chemicals. Like steering a cruise ship, water chemistry requires calculated adjustments, accurate information, and equipment sized for the facility’s actual operating conditions. The conversation covers the difference between ORP and direct free-available-chlorine measurement, on/off versus proportional chlorinator control, and how properly sized systems respond to sudden increases in bather load. Lee and Blake also explain why some facilities retain liquid or granular chlorine as backup sanitation—even when onsite chlorine generation handles nearly the entire demand. We also challenge some persistent assumptions about saltwater pools. Modern commercial systems can operate at salt concentrations as low as approximately 950 ppm, opening the door for indoor pools, facilities with natural stone, and other applications where corrosion concerns have discouraged saltwater chlorination. Finally, we look behind the marketing of “mineral pools.” Magnesium and potassium salts may change how the water feels, but the sanitation still comes from chlorine produced through electrolysis. Minerals do not replace the sanitizer. Topics discussed include:  Why commercial chlorination begins with accurate system sizing  Accounting for sunlight, bather load, turnover, and unusual applications  Why water stability is more important than constant chemical correction  Direct free-chlorine probes versus traditional ORP control  On/off and proportional 4–20 mA chlorinator control  Responding automatically to sudden increases in bather load  Cell operation, reversing cycles, and expected service life  Using liquid or granular chlorine as secondary sanitation  Reducing chemical handling without removing backup infrastructure  Liquid chlorine degradation, declining strength, and chlorate concerns  Commercial chlorination at approximately 950 ppm salt  Saltwater systems for indoor pools and natural-stone environments  What “mineral pool” marketing gets right—and what it leaves out  The roles of magnesium and potassium in swimmer comfort and water appearance  Why mineral pools are still chlorine pools If you operate, specify, design, or service commercial aquatic facilities, this episode offers a practical look at building a chlorination system around stability, predictable demand, and intelligent control—not chemical firefighting. Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Salt
  3. 5d ago

    Confidence Isn’t Competence: Pool Industry Edition

    Send us Fan Mail Profanity does not make someone unprofessional. Confidently spreading bad information does. In this intentionally abrasive episode of the Talking Pools Podcast, Rudy Stankowitz takes aim at the comment-section experts who diagnose complicated pool problems from one blurry photograph, defend outdated beliefs with “I’ve been doing this for 20 years,” and treat confidence as a substitute for evidence. BREAKING INDUSTRY NEWS July’s pool-industry news revealed a market undergoing a serious correction: as reported by Pentair, distributors are aggressively reducing excess equipment inventory; as reported by POOLCORP, essential maintenance and repair demand remains resilient despite weak discretionary spending; as first reported by Bloomberg, Leslie’s was considering strategic options—including a possible Chapter 11 filing—to address its debt; and as reported by the U.S. Chemical Safety Board, years of corrosion, inadequate safeguards and nearly 14 million pounds of reactive chemicals contributed to the catastrophic Bio-Lab fire in Conyers. Adding to the industry shake-up, as reported by Pool Brain on August 5, Eric Knight stepped down as executive director of Watershape University to become Pool Brain’s head of education technology, overseeing automated chemical-dosing tools, guided training workflows and point-of-need education for pool professionals. Pool Brain announcement The Confidently Wrong  Rudy explains why experience only has value when it remains connected to research, why a correct result does not necessarily prove the explanation behind it, and why professionals must be willing to say, “I don’t know.” He also examines the limits of the Langelier Saturation Index, the risks of oversimplified chemistry advice, and the difference between handing someone an answer and teaching that person how to investigate a problem. The pool industry does not need to lose its personality, clean up every four-letter word, or turn itself into a room full of corporate robots. It does need people who verify what they say, correct themselves when the evidence changes, and understand that other professionals and customers make real decisions based on the information they share. The loudest person may get the most attention. The person who consistently does the work earns the trust. In This Episode Why profanity is not a measure of professionalismThe difference between an opinion and supportable informationHow bad pool chemistry advice can become expensive, dangerous, and publicWhy 20 years in the industry does not automatically equal 20 years of growthExperience repeated versus experience examinedHow improved research and instrumentation change what the industry understandsWhy correlation does not prove causationThe danger of diagnosing pool problems without enough informationWhat the Langelier Saturation Index does—and what it cannot tell youWhy “I don’t know” can be the most professional answer availableCorrecting misinformation without surrendering credibilityCombining field experience with current scienceTeaching critical thinking instead of creating dependenceWhy trust is worth more than comments, likes, and online attentionKey Takeaways Experience should be a foundation, not a shield against better information. A professional gathers facts, considers competing explanations, understands the limits of a diagnosis, and changes course when the evidence demands it. A real mentor does more than provide an answer. A mentor teaches someone what to test, what to rule out, what information matters, and how to reason through the next problem independently. Profanity backed by accurate information is a voice. Profanity used to disguise ignorance is noise. 2026 Talking Pools Top Ten Pool Industry Mentors Congratulations to: Brandon ReidJeff HampChris KavanaughTim McDowellLacey DavisJerry WallaceJohn PomaGreg BeardTerry TammaninPeter WiedermanThese honorees were selected by the hosts of the Talking Pools Podcast for the lasting difference they have made in the lives and careers of pool professionals. Episode Sponsors  BlueRay XL — bluerayxl.comService Industry News — serviceindustrynews.netJack’s Magic — jacksmagic.comAquaStar Pool ProductsContent Advisory This episode contains strong language and intentionally abrasive humor. Connect With Talking Pools Subscribe to the Talking Pools Podcast wherever you listen, share this episode with a pool professional who values evidence over ego, and follow the show for straight talk, practical education, and pool-industry commentary without the corporate filter. Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Confidence Isn’t Competence: Pool Industry Edition
  4. 6d ago

    Miracle Pool Products

    Send us Fan Mail This week on Thursdays with Wayne and Steve, the guys take aim at “miracle” pool products, suspiciously cheap equipment, expired test reagents, and the growing number of online knockoffs promising professional results at bargain-basement prices. Wayne recalls some of the industry’s most memorable gimmicks—including magnets that supposedly made calcium disappear—and explains why words like “miracle cure” should immediately raise a red flag. Steve breaks down how he presents customers with equipment options, why an internet price is not always an apples-to-apples comparison, and what customers give up when they purchase off-brand replacement parts without professional support or a reliable warranty. During this episode’s Insurance Interlude, Steve and Pat Grenon examine a nightmare renovation in which an unlicensed contractor allegedly left chunks of concrete inside a pool’s plumbing. They discuss the homeowner’s possible options, the limits of homeowners insurance, and why asking to be named as an additional insured may provide valuable protection before a contractor begins work. Wayne also explains why heavily discounted test kits and reagents may not be the bargain they appear to be. Products sitting in warehouses or clearance bins can be years old, and expired reagents can produce unreliable results—even when the packaging looks perfectly legitimate. The conversation also covers customer communication, emergency-service pricing, protecting your profit margins, commercial-pool safety failures, and why treating people well remains the most effective marketing strategy in the pool business. Topics discussed include: Spotting “miracle product” scams and deceptive demonstrationsOEM equipment versus inexpensive aftermarket replacementsHow to explain equipment pricing and warranties to customersWhy professionals should charge more for emergency and weekend serviceIdentifying expired test kits, reagents, and test stripsThe risks of buying unusually cheap chemical-testing products onlineWhat happens when an unlicensed contractor damages a swimming poolHomeowners insurance and contractor-liability claimsWhy additional-insured status mattersConcrete and construction debris trapped inside pool plumbingDeveloping relationships with reliable leak-detection specialistsCommercial pools with dangerously low pH and alkalinityCloudy-water problems caused by filtration and operational failuresChanges within Leslie’s and what pool professionals should watchBuilding trust through honesty, education, and customer serviceWhy word-of-mouth remains the strongest form of marketingThe takeaway is simple: read the labels, check expiration dates, compare products carefully, document contractor work, and never assume that the cheapest option is actually the least expensive. Have a pool-industry scam or questionable product you think Wayne and Steve should investigate? Email the show at talkingpools@gmail.com. If your story is featured, the team may send you a small thank-you gift. Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Miracle Pool Products
  5. Aug 5

    Cold Plunge Myths: Dewey Case of the CMAHC Turns Up the Heat

    Send us Fan Mail Cold plunges and ice baths are appearing everywhere—from fitness centers and recovery facilities to wellness clinics, athletic programs, and luxury spas. But colder water does not automatically mean cleaner or safer water. In this episode of the Talking Pools Podcast, Natalie Hood is joined by Dewey Case, Technical Director for the Council for the Model Aquatic Health Code and Aquatics Coordinator for Williamson County Parks and Recreation in Tennessee. Dewey helped assemble the experts behind the new CMAHC Cold Water Venue Guidance. Together, he and Natalie separate cold-plunge facts from social-media fiction and explain why these increasingly popular venues require far more attention than a tub, a garden hose, and several bags of ice. They discuss why bacteria can survive in cold water, how lower temperatures can slow sanitizer performance, and why even a single user introduces sweat, body oils, cosmetics, urea, and microorganisms into the water. They also examine the much greater contamination burden created when a commercial system serves dozens—or potentially hundreds—of users each week. The conversation covers the risks associated with poorly maintained systems, including biofilm, Pseudomonas, swimmer’s ear, and the possibility of transferring gastrointestinal pathogens. They also explain why dunking your head into questionable cold-plunge water may be a particularly bad idea. In This Episode Why cold water does not sanitize itselfThe truth about bacteria and pathogens in cold plungesWhy “I’m the only person using it” does not eliminate water-quality concernsWhat sweat, cosmetics, clothing, and body oils add to the waterWhy users should shower before enteringThe risks of head submersion in poorly maintained waterHow biofilm and Pseudomonas can develop inside plumbing and on surfacesWhy commercial cold plunges are not simply oversized bathtubsHow high bather loads change filtration, sanitation, and maintenance demandsWhy cold-water chemistry can be more challenging than spa chemistryHow low temperatures affect chemical dissolution and disinfectionThe purpose of the new CMAHC Cold Water Venue GuidanceWhy proper operation, cleaning, and maintenance make cold-water immersion saferAs Dewey explains, a home cold plunge used by one person and a recirculating commercial venue serving hundreds of bathers are not the same thing. When the bather load changes, the operational practices must change with it. This episode is essential listening for pool professionals, aquatic operators, health officials, inspectors, facility managers, designers, builders, fitness-center owners, and anyone responsible for operating a commercial cold-water venue. She Swims So They Can Natalie is preparing to swim more than 21 miles across three open-water swimming marathons as part of the Tennessee Triple Crown Open Water Swim Challenge. Her campaign, She Swims So They Can, benefits Every Child a Swimmer and helps provide children with access to lifesaving swim lessons. Her scheduled swims are: September 13, 2026September 20, 2026October 3, 2026Donations will be accepted through October 3, 2026. To learn more, donate, purchase official fundraising apparel, or explore sponsorship opportunities, visit Natalie’s Facebook or Instagram pages. Companies interested in sponsoring the campaign may contact Natalie directly at nhood@thegritgame.com. Every contribution helps—and every share expands the campaign’s reach. Special thanks to campaign sponsors Revved Up Apparel, H2flow Controls, Tenjam, and the Talking Pools Podcast. #TalkingPoolsPodcast #ColdPlunge #ColdWaterImmersion #IceBath #AquaticSafety #WaterQuality #PoolOperator #PoolProfessional #CMAHC #MAHC #PublicHealth #Aquatics #Pseudomonas #WaterChemistry Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Cold Plunge Myths: Dewey Case of the CMAHC Turns Up the Heat
  6. Aug 3

    Commercial Salt Chlorination: Safer, Smarter, and Built to Scale

    Send us Fan Mail On this episode of Mondays Down Under, Lee Salisbury and Nick are joined by AIS Water’s Lee Moore and Technical Director Blake for a deep dive into commercial saltwater chlorination. AIS Water has worked in salt chlorination for approximately 35 years, developing systems for everything from swim schools and splash parks to resorts, 50-meter competition pools, coastal pools, and enormous lagoons containing millions of liters of water. The conversation explores why more commercial aquatic facilities are moving toward onsite chlorine generation—and why their success depends on selecting actual commercial equipment, correctly sizing the system, and maintaining proper water chemistry. The three major benefits are convenience, safety, and long-term cost savings. Generating chlorine onsite can dramatically reduce the handling, storage, transportation, and manual transfer of liquid or granular chlorine. It can also reduce the risks associated with chemical spills, damaged dosing lines, incorrect chemical mixing, and chlorine gas entering an occupied pool. But not every “commercial salt system” is truly commercial. The guests discuss facilities that attempted to meet massive chlorine demand by plumbing together banks of residential chlorinators—including one installation containing an astonishing 95 residential units. Besides creating a maintenance nightmare, these improvised systems can introduce excessive head loss, restrict circulation, shorten cell life, and still fail to satisfy the pool’s chlorine demand. Proper sizing requires far more than knowing the pool’s volume. AIS Water considers actual peak bather load, water temperature, turnover rate, sunlight exposure, cyanuric acid use, environmental conditions, operating hours, and the facility’s location. Two pools of identical size—even pools located only a suburb apart—may require substantially different chlorine production capacities. And just when you thought pool chlorination could not get any stranger, the discussion turns to horse pools, seal enclosures, sea lions, natural salt contributions from swimmers, and one exceptionally important unanswered question: Just how much chlorine does a sea lion prefer? You will have to return next Monday for the conclusion. In this episode:  Why commercial aquatic facilities are adopting onsite chlorine generation  The safety risks associated with storing and manually transporting chlorine  How salt chlorination can reduce long-term operating costs  Why an electrolytic cell is a consumable—not a failed chlorinator  How commercial-grade anodes can provide significantly longer cell life  The difference between residential and commercial chlorination equipment  What happens when dozens of residential chlorinators are installed in one system  How excessive head loss can compromise circulation and turnover  Why peak bather load is critical when sizing a chlorinator  How sunlight, shade, temperature, rainfall, and surrounding buildings affect chlorine demand  Commercial systems ranging from low-salinity water to direct seawater  The unusual challenges of chlorinating pools for horses, seals, and sea lions Guests:  Lee Moore, Sales and Marketing, AIS Water  Blake, Technical Director, AIS Water Hosted by Lee Salisbury and Nick on Mondays Down Under, part of the Talking Pools Podcast network. US certifications for AIS Commercial products.  Certified to the Highest International Standards – AIS commercial chlorination systems are independently certified to NSF/ANSI 50 for swimming pool equipment safety and performance, UL 1081 for electrical safety, and are approved for installation in Los Angeles County, one of the world's most stringent regulatory environments. These certifications provide independent assurance that AIS products meet rigorous standards for quality, reliability, and safety, giving consultants, operators, and asset owners confidence in specifying AIS for demanding commercial aquatic facilities. Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Commercial Salt Chlorination: Safer, Smarter, and Built to Scale
  7. Jul 31

    Stop Selling the Bottle—Sell the Outcome

    Send us Fan Mail Specialty chemicals are not the enemy. Phosphate removers, enzymes, clarifiers, sequestrants, scale inhibitors, flocculants and stain treatments can all deliver real value—when they address an actual, diagnosed condition. In this episode of the Talking Pools Podcast, Rudy Stankowitz explains why the bottle should never become the protocol. Before adding any specialty chemical to a pool, service professionals should answer three questions:  Will it meaningfully benefit this customer?  Will it become a pain in the ass for me or my technicians?  Can my company make money providing the treatment? Rudy breaks down the hidden costs that are often ignored: return visits, filter cleaning, vacuuming, fuel, labor and the time required to explain an expected reaction to the customer. A $20 bottle is no longer a $20 treatment when it creates another hour of work. He also explains why specialty treatments should not automatically be buried inside a flat monthly service rate. Customers are not paying for possession of the bottle. They are paying for the professional who knows when to use it, how much to use, what conditions are required, what side effects to expect and what to do when the treatment does not behave as planned. The episode also includes a message honoring the 2026 Top Ten Pool Industry Mentors and Rudy’s final thoughts about his Reflecting Pool coating analysis reaching the White House—proof that sound technical work can matter far beyond the pool industry. In this episode  Why mentorship means teaching people to think—not creating dependence  How specialty chemicals establish added value  Why every treatment should begin with a diagnosed condition  The danger of mistaking a visible reaction for proof  When phosphate removal makes professional and financial sense  Why predictable follow-up work belongs in the treatment price  How flat-rate chemical inclusion can hide value and destroy profit  Why pool professionals should sell outcomes—not bottles  Separating chemical problems from circulation, filtration and equipment problems  Why chemistry and physics remain unchanged by politics The three-question specialty chemical test  Will it benefit the customer?  Will it become a pain in the ass for me?  Can I make money on it? Specialty chemicals are tools—not miracles, substitutes for proper maintenance or acts of absolution for neglected pools. Sponsored in part by Service Industry News, AquaStar Pool Products and BluRay XL. Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Stop Selling the Bottle—Sell the Outcome
  8. Jul 30

    Cold Plunges, Pool Inspections, and Where the Industry Is Headed

    Send us Fan Mail Show NotesThis week, Steve and Wayne tackle two timely topics affecting the swimming pool industry. First, Steve discusses a growing number of calls from homeowners who find themselves trapped in construction projects with missed deadlines, questionable workmanship, and uncertainty about what to do next. The conversation explores the challenges of residential pool inspections, the gray areas of building codes, and why hiring an independent expert isn't always as straightforward as it sounds. The second half of the episode takes a deep dive into the newly released Model Aquatic Health Code (MAHC) Cold Water Venue Guidance. With cold plunges becoming increasingly popular in homes, gyms, spas, and athletic facilities, Steve and Wayne explain why industry guidance is needed, how it is developed, and what pool professionals should understand about water quality, sanitation, filtration, and safety. In This Episode Why homeowners are increasingly seeking independent pool inspections during construction.The challenges of enforcing residential pool codes compared to commercial pools.What homeowners should expect before pursuing construction disputes.Understanding the role—and limitations—of expert inspections.The new Model Aquatic Health Code Cold Water Venue Guidance explained.How MAHC guidance is developed through industry collaboration and scientific review.Why "guidance" is different from law or regulation.Safety recommendations for cold plunge users, including age and health considerations.Why colder water changes the speed of chemical reactions.Challenges of maintaining proper sanitizer levels in very small cold-water vessels.Why many professional athletic organizations simply dump and refill cold plunge water rather than attempting to filter it.Lessons learned from servicing cold plunge systems used by professional sports teams.The importance of proper maintenance as cold plunges become more common in homes.The growing need for practical standards as cold-water therapy enters the mainstream.Key Takeaways Residential pool inspections often involve significant gray areas compared to commercial construction.Expert opinions can identify deficiencies, but correcting them may still require negotiation or litigation.Cold plunges present unique operational challenges because of their small water volume and low temperatures.Lower water temperatures slow chemical reactions, making sanitation more complicated than many people realize.Proper water management is just as important in a cold plunge as it is in a swimming pool.As cold-water therapy grows in popularity, industry guidance will play an increasingly important role in protecting public health.Featured Discussion The MAHC's New Cold Water Guidance Steve and Wayne explain why the Council for the Model Aquatic Health Code developed guidance for cold plunge facilities, how recommendations are reviewed by subject-matter experts, and why science—not social media trends—should drive industry best practices. Behind the Scenes with Professional Sports Drawing from firsthand experience servicing facilities for NFL, NHL, NBA, and MLS organizations, Steve shares how professional teams maintain therapy pools, cold plunges, and rehabilitation equipment—and why sanitation protocols are often much more aggressive than many people expect. Sponsored By A special thank you to the Council for the Model Aquatic Health Code (CMAHC) for supporting this episode and their continued work advancing science-based aquatic health guidance. Have a topic you'd like Steve and Wayne to cover? Send your suggestions to talkingpools@gmail.com. If your idea is featured on the show, you might even receive a special thank-you gift! Support the show Thank you so much for listening! You can find us on social media: FacebookInstagramTik TokEmail us: talkingpools@gmail.com

    Cold Plunges, Pool Inspections, and Where the Industry Is Headed
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If you’ve ever stared at a test kit like it personally insulted your family… welcome home. Talking Pools Podcast is the pool industry’s “pull up a chair” show—part shop talk, part field manual, part therapy session—built for people who actually live on pool decks: commercial operators, service techs, builders, facility managers, and anyone responsible for water that can’t afford to go sideways. The network was created to level up the pool industry with real-world conversations on water chemistry, filtration, troubleshooting, construction, safety, and the business side of keeping pools open and budgets intact.  Here’s the hook: it’s not theory-first. It’s experience-first—a roster of seasoned pros (with 250+ years of combined “been there, fixed that” wisdom) turning complicated problems into practical moves you can use the same day.  And it’s not one voice, one vibe, one corner of the industry: it’s a network of shows designed to reflect how diverse this work really is—different regions, different specialties, different personalities.  Also worth saying out loud: women aren’t “special guests” here—they’re on the mic as hosts, from the beginning, with an intentionally balanced roster.  That matters, because the best ideas in this industry don’t come from one lane—they come from the whole road. If you want a podcast that can make you laugh and make you better at what you do—without pretending the job is easier than it is—Talking Pools is the one you queue up before the first stop, and keep on when the day starts getting weird. 

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