Bothsides Podcast

Bothsides Podcast

Ambition doesn’t come with a manual. Want to know how to become the best and actually apply it? Bothsides Podcast is where the top 1% reveal what it truly takes to master their craft. Hosted by Daniel Beardall, Kevin Buchanan, and Josh Morrissey, each episode dives into the mindset, strategy, and stories behind success, featuring guests like Tobi Pearce, Graeme Holm, Frank Greeff, and Marty Fox. From business and real estate to performance and purpose, these are real conversations and proven frameworks. Your playbook for becoming the top 1%.

  1. 12/24/2025

    EP 142 | How I Built A 200-Person Company With ZERO Systems - Graeme Holm

    Graeme Holm reveals why he built a 200-person empire with NO systems, the 3 external CEOs who all failed, how his team stays 8+ years when the industry average is 18 months, and the brutal truth about scaling that business coaches won't tell you.  Graeme Holm runs a mortgage business with 189 staff, created a "treasure chest" of award-winning leaders, and refuses to sell despite massive offers. He exposes: ◼️ Why the 3 external CEOs he hired over 18 months all failed—and what that taught him about ownership ◼️ The "no systems" approach that kept his best people for 8-9 years (rare in any industry) ◼️ How his head of finance won Broker of the Year while working FOR him, not competing against him ◼️ Why "no one will ever treat your business like their own"—the truth about hired leadership ◼️ The difference between owners and operators—and why most business coaches were "failed employees" ◼️ How Rachel now runs his masterclasses after he built a "treasure chest of people" who can replace him ◼️ Why he's manic, unstructured, and ignores every business guru—yet scaled to nearly 200 staff going global ◼️ The real secret to long-tenure staff: competent people, not perfect systems ◼️ Why he refuses to sell for any amount—because "bean counters would run it and the community would suffer" ◼️ What 12 years of blood, sweat and tears bought him: "Now I can spend the rest of my life however the f*ck I want"

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Ambition doesn’t come with a manual. Want to know how to become the best and actually apply it? Bothsides Podcast is where the top 1% reveal what it truly takes to master their craft. Hosted by Daniel Beardall, Kevin Buchanan, and Josh Morrissey, each episode dives into the mindset, strategy, and stories behind success, featuring guests like Tobi Pearce, Graeme Holm, Frank Greeff, and Marty Fox. From business and real estate to performance and purpose, these are real conversations and proven frameworks. Your playbook for becoming the top 1%.

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