The Divorce Support Podcast

Kevin Van Liere

The podcast that aims to uncover how people successfully Let Go and Move On during and after divorce. Divorce is one of the most difficult times in life and yet we show you how you feel significantly better, quickly. The information in this podcast is backed by more than 30 years of courses and thousands of people using the Rebuilders program to Let Go and Move on. We will show you how you can do it too.

  1. Aug 28

    Chapter 9 - Denial: You can't heal what you won't Face

    Dave waited fifteen years for his ex-wife to come back. He watched her marry someone else, watched that marriage end, and still thought: now she'll realize. She never did. Fifteen years gone, waiting for something that was never going to happen. That's what denial can cost you — and the first step out of it is smaller and simpler than you'd think. This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode, Kevin Van Liere reframes denial as what it actually is: not a character flaw or weakness, but your brain's shock absorber — rationing a reality too painful to absorb all at once. You'll learn the many faces denial wears (paralysis, frantic motion, avoidance, numbness, jumping into someone new, and Dave's endless waiting), the crucial difference between healthy pacing and destructive denial, and the three honest questions that tell you which one you're in. Then the shift: one simple sentence to say every time you catch yourself thinking "I can't believe this is happening" — the sentence that lets reality in so you can finally start to heal. Denial is the second of five obstacles between you and the foundation of the pyramid. You can't climb until you face what's real. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: https://rebuilders.net/drs?utm_source=podcast Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live — real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot: https://rebuilders.net/phoenix-live?utm_source=podcast And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if you know someone going through a divorce, send it their way. It might be exactly what they need right now.

    Chapter 9 - Denial: You can't heal what you won't Face
  2. Aug 21

    Chapter 8 - The Initiator/Resister Dynamic

    You fell apart. They sat there like they were waiting for a movie to start. And ever since, one question has been eating at you: did they ever really care? Here's the answer that changes everything — they didn't feel less. They just started grieving long before you knew anything was wrong. You're not broken. You're not behind. You're on a different timeline. This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode, Kevin Van Liere tells the story of sobbing in a Colorado courtroom while his ex sat beside him, calm and still — and the conversation two years later that finally explained why: she'd stopped loving him seven years before the divorce. That's the asymmetry at the heart of almost every split. The Initiator emotionally left first and has been grieving in small doses for months or years; the Resister gets it all at once, compressed and overwhelming, and then tortures themselves watching the other person seem "fine." You'll learn how to tell which role you're in, why the Initiator's calm is almost never what it looks like, why guilt drives the Initiator to give away things they shouldn't, and how understanding the timeline finally lets you stop asking "what's wrong with me?" This is the first of five obstacles standing between you and the foundation of the pyramid. Name it, understand it, and you clear it. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: https://rebuilders.net/drs Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live — real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot: https://rebuilders.net/live And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if you know someone going through a divorce, send it their way. It might be exactly what they need right now.

    Chapter 8 - The Initiator/Resister Dynamic
  3. Aug 14

    Chapter 7 - The RIFT Framework

    For six episodes we've talked about what doesn't work. This is where that turns. Heartbreak doesn't break just one thing — it breaks everything, top to bottom: first the relationship, then your identity, then your feelings, then your thinking. But here's the part nobody tells you: you don't heal it in the order it broke. You heal it from the foundation up — and once you can see the whole path, the climb is faster than you'd believe. This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode, Kevin Van Liere lays out the RIFT framework — Relationships, Identity, Feelings, Thinking — and the pyramid you climb to rebuild: Thinking at the base, then Feelings, then Identity, then Relationships at the peak. You'll learn why you can't skip a phase (and what happens when you try), why the classic "high Thinking score, rock-bottom Feelings score" pattern almost always means someone's been in therapy without processing what's underneath, and how your four Divorce Recovery Scorecard numbers aren't a judgment — they're a map that tells you exactly where to start. Michael started at the foundation with an 8 and reached 98. Anne, after four years stuck on her own, climbed from 4 to 93. They didn't start at the top. They started where they actually were. This is the framework the rest of the season is built on. The next five episodes clear the obstacles standing between you and the base of the pyramid — so you can start the climb. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: https://rebuilders.net/drs Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live — real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot: https://rebuilders.net/live And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if you know someone going through a divorce, send it their way. It might be exactly what they need right now.

    Chapter 7 - The RIFT Framework
  4. Aug 7

    Chapter 6 - Move On' Isn't a Strategy

    New paint. A full calendar. A drink to take the edge off. A trip scheduled so you're not home when the decree arrives. Every one of these helps — a little. And every one of them is coping, not healing. This is the episode about the difference, and why "just move on" was never actually a plan. This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode — the last of Part 1 — Kevin Van Liere lays his own coping playbook bare: the redecorated bedroom, the bourbon, the 2 a.m. video games, the escape to Mexico, the ten-month relationship that helped him survive but never let him heal. You'll meet Diane, who buried herself in work until the promotions couldn't outrun the grief, and others who tried the gym, a new city, an epic trip — and found their questions waiting for them when they got home. The hard, freeing insight underneath all of it: you can't move on until you let go, and you can't let go by staying busy enough to avoid the pain. This episode closes the case on what doesn't work. Next episode, the book turns to what does. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: Rebuilders.net/drs Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live — real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot: Rebuilders.net/phoenix-live And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if you know someone going through a divorce, send it their way. It might be exactly what they need right now.

    Chapter 6 - Move On' Isn't a Strategy
  5. Jul 31

    Chapter 5 - Community Alone Won't Save You

    "You need community. You can't do this alone." It's the advice people get often — so you find a group, you lean on your friends, maybe you start dating before you're ready. And some of it helps. A little. But feeling less alone isn't the same as getting better, and most people never learn the difference until they've worn out the people who love them. This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode, meet Jon, who drove to a support group desperate for help and got YouTube videos instead; Brad, who leaned so hard on his friends he could feel them start to pull away; and Kevin Van Liere's own ten months in a relationship that helped him survive but never let him heal. The thread connecting all of them: community, curriculum, and structure still aren't enough on their own. What actually moves people from stuck to free is trained facilitators who show you how to do the work, proven methods, real accountability, and a group doing it alongside you — the difference between Jon at 15 and Jon at 90. If you've been leaning on everyone around you and still feel stuck, start here. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: Rebuilders.net/drs Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live — real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot: Rebuilders.net/phoenix-live And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if you know someone going through a divorce, send it their way. It might be exactly what they need right now.

    Chapter 5 - Community Alone Won't Save You
  6. Jul 24

    Chapter 4 - The Legal-First Mistake

    When your marriage ends, everyone says the same thing: get a good lawyer. So you do. And the meter starts running. But here's what nobody warns you about — the legal system can process your paperwork, but it can't heal a single thing that's actually broken. And if you're a mess while it's happening, the paperwork gets very, very expensive. This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode, meet Dave — a sharp manufacturing executive who still burned through three lawyers, two mediators, eighteen months, and fifty thousand dollars before it was done — and Sarah, who spent over $100,000 fighting battles that were never really about the money. Kevin Van Liere breaks down the two opposite ways unprocessed emotion drives up the cost of a divorce (fighting for everything, and giving it all away), why "being nice" doesn't buy the peace you're hoping for, and why the people who come out whole are the ones who heal while they negotiate — not after. If you haven't signed anything yet, this is the episode to hear first. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: Rebuilders.net/drs Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live — real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot: Rebuilders.net/phoenix-live And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if someone you know is going through this too, send it their way.

    Chapter 4 - The Legal-First Mistake
  7. Jul 17

    Chapter 3 - You Can't Think Your Way Out

    You've talked it through. You've journaled. You've analyzed every conversation, every text, every thing that went wrong. You understand exactly what happened — and you still feel terrible. Here's the hard truth: you can't think your way out of this one. This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode, meet Julie — smart, capable, used to solving any problem by reasoning it through — who spent months trying to think her way past a marriage that kept ending and restarting, with nothing to show for it but exhaustion. Kevin Van Liere unpacks why insight alone keeps you stuck, the real difference between talk therapy and structured recovery — and why the two work best together, not against each other — and how Julie's disentanglement score climbed from 25 to 75 in ten weeks. Not because she got smarter. Because she finally had a path. If you've been circling the same questions for months, this is the one to start with. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: Rebuilders.net/drs Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live — real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot: Rebuilders.net/phoenix-live And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if someone you love is going through this too, send it their way.

    Chapter 3 - You Can't Think Your Way Out
  8. Jul 10

    Chapter 2 Time Doesn't Heal - And It's Costing You

    Everyone keeps telling you the same thing: give it time. Be patient. It gets easier. So you wait. But what if waiting is the very thing keeping you stuck — and quietly costing you more every year? This season walks through the book 10-Week Divorce Recovery: The Proven Step-by-Step Roadmap, one chapter at a time — the same method that's helped people let go and move on for more than 40 years. In this episode, meet Michael — five years past the affair that ended his marriage, still dragging what he called "divorce hell" everywhere he went, until his body finally forced the issue. And meet Denise, who waited three and a half years for time to heal a wound that only scarred over. You'll learn why grief and anger have no automatic "healing process" the way a bruise does, what rumination is actually doing to your brain, and the real price waiting extracts — at work, with your kids, on your health, and in the decisions you can't take back. If everyone's been telling you to give it time, this is the episode that explains why that advice keeps failing you. Find out where you actually are. Take the free Divorce Recovery Scorecard — 30 questions, five minutes, instant results. It's the same baseline we use to measure real progress. You'll hear scores come up throughout this season, so get yours and follow along: rebuilders.net/drs Join us at Phoenix Live. Free, live, every week - real people at every stage of divorce recovery, doing the work together. Come just to listen the first time. Save your spot at Rebuilders.net/phoenix-live. And when you're ready to walk through the full process start to finish, it comes three ways — online from anywhere, in person with a local group, or as a week-long immersion retreat. If this episode helped, follow the show so the next chapter finds you — and if someone you know is going through this too, send it their way.

    Chapter 2 Time Doesn't Heal - And It's Costing You

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The podcast that aims to uncover how people successfully Let Go and Move On during and after divorce. Divorce is one of the most difficult times in life and yet we show you how you feel significantly better, quickly. The information in this podcast is backed by more than 30 years of courses and thousands of people using the Rebuilders program to Let Go and Move on. We will show you how you can do it too.

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