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90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

Chris Clarke
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Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

  1. S5E10: ¡No al muro! Big Bend Neighbors Fight Proposed Border Wall

    2D AGO

    S5E10: ¡No al muro! Big Bend Neighbors Fight Proposed Border Wall

    In this episode, host Chris Clarke engages in an enlightening conversation with Laiken Jordahl from the Center for Biological Diversity. Focusing on the contentious issue of border wall construction, Jordahl sheds light on the potential threats posed by the Department of Homeland Security's proposed developments near Big Bend National Park in Texas. This discussion is not just a critique of environmental degradation but also highlights the unique coalition of local residents opposing these plans, emphasizing the union of diverse communities in protecting the Rio Grande's ecological integrity. Jordahl articulates the environmental and social impact of the wall, touching on topics like endangered species, cultural connections, and community resilience. With references to biodiversity in the region, the conversation also delves into the critical role local communities play in safeguarding public lands. From agave blooms to wildlife threats and the interruption of the natural landscape, the dialogue underscores an urgent call to action. Through poignant anecdotes and insightful commentary, this episode captures the essence of grassroots activism and cross-border unity in the face of federal infrastructure challenges. Note for AI skeptics: the episode artwork was created with Photoshop and a human brain. Key Takeaways: Local communities in Big Bend are uniting against proposed border wall construction, citing environmental, cultural, and economic concerns. The coalition opposing the wall includes diverse stakeholders, from conservative ranchers to progressive environmentalists, all valuing the region's unique ecological and cultural landscape. Proposed border wall construction risks significant ecological damage, including threats to endangered species and water access within the Rio Grande. The episode explores the cross-border cultural and environmental exchanges that define the Big Bend region’s identity, threatened by potential development. Activist efforts and community resilience offer a hopeful prospect for halting destructive infrastructure projects along the U.S.-Mexico border. Notable Quotes: "They don't want to see their mountains dynamited and their native plants bulldozed and destroyed." - Laiken Jordahl "All of the local sheriffs, including a number of very conservative Republicans who run and campaign on border security issues, oppose this wall." - Laiken Jordahl "The Rio Grande, it's really a river in recovery. And we have an opportunity to restore this river and allow for the recovery of so many native species." - Laiken Jordahl "Once you see the grandeur, the remoteness, the rugged beauty of this region, there's no way you're not going to fight like hell to protect it." - Laiken Jordahl "These are not professional organizers. These are not paid NGO actors. These are people fighting for their livelihoods." - Laiken Jordahl Resources: No Big Bend Wall on Instagram Follow Laiken Jordahl on social media for updates on border issues: Twitter, Instagram. Center For Biological Doiversity press release: Congress Urged to Block Border Wall Construction Through Texas’ Big Bend Parks Listen to the full episode of "90 Miles from Needles" for an in-depth discussion on the environmental and social dimensions of border wall construction, and stay tuned for more insightful conversations on desert protection and advocacy. Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    35 min
  2. S5E9: Why Salt Lakes Matter More Than Ever

    MAR 27

    S5E9: Why Salt Lakes Matter More Than Ever

    In this engaging episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke invites Caroline Tracey, author of "Salt Lakes: An Unnatural History," to discuss her newest work and its publication on March 17th. The conversation navigates from Caroline's initial inspiration at the Salton Sea in 2014 to the array of topics covered in her book, including the ecology of salt lakes, their historical significance, and the weaving in of queer theory as a lens for understanding these unique ecosystems. The episode dives deep into Caroline's exploration of salt lakes around the world, illustrating unexpected commonalities in their ecological functions and human impacts. By employing queer theory, she highlights non-normative reproductive structures and challenges traditional perceptions of barren desert landscapes. Chris and Caroline further discuss the personal evolution that paralleled the book’s creation, providing listeners with an enriched understanding of the world’s salt lakes' environmental and cultural intricacies. This episode serves as a compelling invitation to rethink the narratives around desert ecosystems, encouraging proactive preservation through enriched storytelling. Key Takeaways: Caroline Tracey began her journey to writing "Salt Lakes: An Unnatural History" after visiting the Salton Sea in 2014, inspired by the interplay of natural history, policy, and personal narrative. The book highlights the global patterns of ecological degradation in salt lakes due to factors like water diversion for agriculture, drawing parallels between lakes in North America, Central Asia, and Mexico. Caroline incorporates queer theory to explore ecological dynamics, introducing a fresh perspective on the biodiversity and resilience of salt lakes. Deserts and their salt lakes are misunderstood landscapes, often labeled as wastelands, yet they are biologically and culturally rich. The interview sheds light on various ecosystems, advocating for conservation efforts by demonstrating how altered perceptions can foster environmental appreciation and advocacy. Notable Quotes: "I think for some people just the idea of what a salt lake is, it helps to ground them in terms of not just the utility but the beauty." "Queer theory played a role in that because I really wanted to think about those conceptual issues of 'how do you feel at home in a place that's changing very fast?'" "Salt lakes are...like a canary in a coal mine...because they are at the end of the water system." "If I can convince other people that these landscapes are beautiful and fertile and worth protecting, that has a ripple effect upwards." Resources: Caroline Tracey's book tour for Salt Lakes Buy "Salt Lakes: An Unnatural History" The Border Chronicle read Sunaura Taylor's "Disabled Ecologies: Lessons from a Wounded Desert" Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    36 min
  3. S5E8: We Don't Need Heroes. We Need Activists.

    MAR 20

    S5E8: We Don't Need Heroes. We Need Activists.

    Episode Summary: This episode tackles the troubling legacy of Cesar Chavez amidst recent allegations of sexual assault and misconduct, which have shaken the progressive and environmental spheres. Host Chris, who shares a personal history influenced by Chavez, critically examines these revelations, comparing past admiration with the need to hold figures accountable for their actions. The episode also navigates the broader implications on movements Chavez impacted, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging both the achievements and failings of public figures. In a candid exploration, Chris discusses the complexities surrounding hero worship in social justice movements, particularly when such icons are involved in controversy. With references to other figures such as Ed Abbey and David Brower, the episode unravels the persistent issue of separating an individual's contributions from their personal failings. The episode spotlights how such revelations impact the perception of someone like Chavez, who played a significant role in farm labor rights but whose personal actions warrant serious condemnation. Chris concludes with a call for reflection on leadership dynamics within advocacy movements and how they must evolve to prevent future transgressions. Key Takeaways: The episode explores the lasting impact of recent allegations against Cesar Chavez, which profoundly affect his legacy within activist movements. Chris discusses the challenges in separating Chavez's contributions to labor rights from his personal misconduct and abuse. Examination of leadership within progressive movements highlights the dangers of a centralized cult of personality. The discussion offers insights into how allegations of misconduct by leaders affect the morale and trajectory of advocacy efforts. The host emphasizes the need for inclusive and responsible leadership that prioritizes the community's cause over individual recognition. Notable Quotes: "Heroes are really problematic. I keep learning this over and over again." "The decline of the UFW is a testament to the failings of leadership that centered ego and image over collective goals." "When leaders put their self-interests first, they sabotage the very movements they claim to champion." "Ask yourself how much more good Chavez might have been responsible for if he had not been a rapist." Resources: For more on the Cesar Chavez revelations, see This article by David Morales at Three Sonorans. Three Sonorans also addresses criticism of Dolores Huerta's role in all this. Here's the UFW Foundation's comment on the revelations. Need help? Visit IASP for crisis support or call 800-656-HOPE. Suggestions from the host include exploring the resources available at RAINN. Listen to the full episode for a more in-depth discussion on Cesar Chavez's complex legacy and stay tuned for upcoming episodes filled with insightful conversations about environmental justice and activism. Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    24 min
  4. S5E7: The Battle for Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument

    MAR 6

    S5E7: The Battle for Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument

    Urgent: Find your member of Congress and tell them to vote no on the Lee-Malloy resolution Episode Summary: In this timely and engaging episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, we look into the ongoing legislative challenges faced by Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument. In conversation with Dr. Jackie Grant, Executive Director of Grand Staircase Escalante Partners, the discussion unravels the intricacies of environmental policy, community engagement, and the unforeseen impacts of political maneuvers on public lands. This episode is a must-listen for those passionate about conservation and environmental justice. The episode sheds light on the latest efforts by Utah politicians, including Senator Mike Lee, to overturn the monument's management plan using the Congressional Review Act. Dr. Grant elaborates on the implications of such actions, emphasizing how it could cause chaos across all public lands with management plans. The discussion also highlights the socioeconomic benefits derived from the monument's existence, opposing the idea that these lands are barren and underutilized. Through a meticulous examination of the issue, the conversation underscores the vital importance of community voices and scientific reasoning in land management decisions. Key Takeaways: Congressional Review Act Impact: The recent moves by Utah legislators pose a threat not only to Grand Staircase Escalante's management plan but also to the concept of public land management nationwide. Diverse Stakeholder Engagement: The formation of the monument's current management plan involved extensive input from varied community representatives, highlighting the need for balanced perspectives in environmental policy. Economic and Ecological Significance: The Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument supports local economies through tourism and recreation while preserving diverse ecosystems and night skies. Urgency of Advocacy: Listeners are encouraged to speak out to their elected representatives to protect public land management plans from being undermined. Wider Conservation Context: This episode contextualizes Grand Staircase Escalante as a crucial link in the larger preservation corridor stretching from Moab to Mojave. Notable Quotes: "The Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument is almost 2 million acres in size… We don't really know how big a monument needs to be to protect 660 species of native bees." – Dr. Jackie Grant "If we err on the side of the bigger is more protective, then we know for sure we have protected those bees." – Dr. Jackie Grant "It seems unlikely, but in this administration, nothing's unlikely anymore." – Dr. Jackie Grant Resources: Grand Staircase Escalante Partners Headwaters Economics Report on National Monuments Grand Canyon Trust – Information on Grand Staircase Escalante BLM Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument Page Trinational Sonoran Desert Symposium Explore the urgent and profound issues featured in this informative episode of 90 Miles from Needles; The Desert Protection Podcast. Stay tuned for more remarkable insights and stories addressing the protection of these precious desert landscapes.   Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    42 min
  5. Brief hiatus due to house fire

    SEASON 5 TRAILER

    Brief hiatus due to house fire

    In this update, Chris discusses an unexpected pause in regular programming due to a recent house fire. Thankfully, no one was hurt, but smoke has damaged his family's belongings, including his extensive and cherished library collection, which includes numerous rare and out-of-print books. Amid these challenges, Chris previews an upcoming episode featuring Dr. Jackie Grant, Executive Director of the Grand Staircase Escalante Partners, who will discuss efforts to protect the national monument. Tune in next week for insightful discussions on conservation, or support the podcast through their website. Episode image is a stock photo and does not show Chris' house, thankfully.  Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    2 min
  6. S5E6: Ravens and Splitgrass: A Deep Dive into the Mojave's Ecological Challenges

    FEB 20

    S5E6: Ravens and Splitgrass: A Deep Dive into the Mojave's Ecological Challenges

    This episode, we welcome back Tim Shields, a dedicated desert tortoise biologist whose half-century-long career has been devoted to unwavering efforts in conservation. As we explore abandoned terrains once frequented by old Hollywood, Tim shares his innovative methods combatting raven predation and invasive plant species threatening tortoise habitats. In this captivating episode, Tim Shields explores how the invasive grass Schismus has transformed once vibrant, diverse desert landscapes into monotonous expanses, diminishing essential food sources and shelter for the desert tortoise. Chris and Tim engage in a panoramic conversation covering technological advances in ecosystem management, the ecological consequences of invasive species, and the ways technology can help mitigate human impact on wildlife. Through innovative tools and perseverance, Tim aims to hand over a toolkit to future generations for the restoration of these precious ecosystems. Key Takeaways: Raven Management: Tim has pioneered non-lethal methods to deter ravens, such as innovative lasers that make the birds uneasy without physical harm, significantly reducing raven presence in key habitats. Invasive Species Impact: Schismus grass represents a major threat to desert ecosystems, highlighting the need for innovative solutions to restore native plant diversity. Ecological Vibrancy: Creating a sound-based ecological index could help measure the health and diversity of the desert ecosystems, showing the vibrancy and biodiversity of an environment through acoustics. Future of Conservation: Tim emphasizes the importance of preparing future generations with the tools and knowledge to continue ecological restoration and avoid repeating past mistakes. Hope Through Innovation: Despite challenges, Tim remains optimistic about technologies and methods paving the way for ecological recovery in the desert. Notable Quotes: "Ravens are good students. We are talking to them in bird." "If you have an environment that can support tortoises, it supports the whole crew." "The Schismus remains invisible to most; they don't notice it, but we see the ecological damage." "It’s about putting our hands on the ecological levers; otherwise, protected lands will become irrelevant." "This is a beloved landscape, and it is in dire trouble." Resources: Tim Shields & Ornilogic: Discover more about Tim Shields' ongoing efforts and projects in desert conservation here. Chris’ 2015 article on raven deterrence: read it at pbssocal.org 90 Miles from Needles Podcast: For more information and additional episodes, visit our website. Cornell Lab of Ornithology: Explore extensive bird call collections referenced by Tim in the episode here. Join us in this insightful conversation to uncover how persistence and innovative thinking can foster change in conservation. Engage with how desert ecosystems can be protected and invite yourself to imagine sustainable futures for these wild terrains. Don’t miss tuning into the full episode for an enriching experience, and stay connected for more compelling discussions on the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast.   Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    58 min
  7. S5E5: From Nuclear Waste to Restoring Glen Canyon

    FEB 13

    S5E5: From Nuclear Waste to Restoring Glen Canyon

    Episode Summary: In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke discusses the pressing environmental issues faced by the American Southwest with guest Zak Podmore. The discussion centers around the potential for San Juan County, Utah, to become a storage site for nuclear waste. The conversation explores the environmental and social justice implications of such initiatives, pointing out the burden placed on historically underserved communities that have already borne a disproportionate share of impacts from the nuclear industry. The episode also explores the possibilities for the future of the Colorado River and the diminishing Lake Powell. Zak Podmore provides insights into what lower reservoir levels mean for the region's ecosystems and water management strategies. Encouraging discussions about restoring Glen Canyon and possibly decommissioning Glen Canyon Dam, the conversation transcends mere environmental discourse, hinting at a broader narrative of resilience and adaptation. Key Takeaways: Nuclear Waste Storage Concerns: The proposal to store nuclear waste in Southeast Utah raises significant environmental and social justice issues. Glen Canyon Restoration: Lower water levels in Lake Powell reveal the adaptive potential of natural ecosystems, opening doors for restoration opportunities like decommissioning the Glen Canyon Dam. Climate Change Impacts: The episode reflects the looming threat of climate change-induced drought in the Colorado River Basin and its implications for water management in the Southwest. Community Resistance: Zak Podmore emphasizes the importance of community awareness and resistance against potentially harmful environmental policies. Historic Environmental Advocacy: Insights into past environmental battles, including the roles of figures like David Brower, remind listeners of the enduring fight for ecological preservation. Notable Quotes: "These meetings were held, the nonprofits involved said they were just listening sessions. They said, we're not trying to actually bring radioactive waste to your area. We're just here to listen and provide information." — Zak Podmore "I don't think that's a very valid argument. But even if you really believe that, they still leave out the impacts from all the rest of the nuclear fuel cycle." — Zak Podmore "The ecosystems are incredibly resilient and they're recovering faster than anyone expected." — Zak Podmore "It's a dire situation for 40 million people who get water from the Colorado River throughout the Southwest." — Zak Podmore "If you give Glen Canyon, this famous place that was lost to the Glen Canyon Dam in the 1960s, a chance to recover, it will come back." — Zak Podmore Resources: Zak Podmore's Website Zak’s Substack "Life After Deadpool: Lake Powell’s Last Days and the Rebirth of the Colorado River" Listen to the full episode to engage deeply with these issues and explore further enlightening insights from "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast." Stay tuned for more episodes that continue to unveil the stories and voices of the desert.   Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    55 min
  8. S5E4: Celebrating 25 Years: The Timbisha Shoshone's Fight for Their Homeland

    FEB 6

    S5E4: Celebrating 25 Years: The Timbisha Shoshone's Fight for Their Homeland

    In this enlightening episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke takes listeners to the heart of the desert Southwest for a special commemoration of the 25th anniversary of the Timbisha Shoshone Homeland Act. The episode celebrates the journey of the Timbisha Shoshone Tribe in reclaiming their ancestral lands in Death Valley National Park. Tribe members, including Jimmy John Thompson, Mandy Campbell, and George Gholson share their stories and highlight ongoing collaborations with the National Park Service. Rich in history and advocacy, this episode explores both the triumphs and challenges faced by the Timbisha Shoshone Tribe in the years since the landmark legislation was enacted. Jimmy John Thompson and Mandy Campbell express their frustrations over recent censorship concerning the tribe's narrative in the park's visitor center materials. The episode conveys the tribe's resilience and determination to protect and celebrate their culture while addressing contemporary environmental and social challenges. The discussion doesn't shy away from revealing the systemic issues still at play, urging listeners to reflect on the broader implications on cultural preservation and environmental justice. Key Takeaways: The Timbisha Shoshone Homeland Act was a significant event for the Tribe, granting them 7,800 acres of ancestral land within Death Valley National Park, a singular achievement for a Native American tribe. The collaboration between the Timbisha Shoshone Tribe and the National Park Service highlights a critical step in building partnerships for the preservation and recognition of indigenous lands and culture. Current tribal council members, including Jimmy John Thompson, stress the ongoing need to address issues like censorship and the importance of reflecting true tribal narratives in public spaces. The Timbisha Shoshone people continue to fight for their rights and cultural survival, underscoring the importance of indigenous advocacy and environmental justice in modern society. Notable Quotes: "I see partners, I see friends, I see family. These relationships would not work if we do not respect each other and trust each other." – Jimmy John Thompson "We're here to honor those that came before us who got this accomplished." – Jimmy John Thompson "We were pushed from land to land around here, from home to home. It kind of felt like when I figured it out, it felt like we were nobody then, but now we are somebody, and we are still here." – Mandy Campbell "Imagine for a second, if you did not know if your home was going to be there when you went home." – George Gholson Resources: Timbisha Shoshone Tribe Website: timbisha.com Desert Advocacy Media Network: Desert Advocacy Media Network Raising funds for Desert Journalism Fellowship: Website: 90milesfromneedles.com/fellowship The compelling narratives and insights from this episode provide a deep understanding of the Timbasha Shoshone Tribe's heritage, challenges, and collaborations. Tune into the full episode for more profound stories and stay connected with "90 Miles from Need Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    41 min
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Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

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