In today's episode, host Pat McCalla sits down with his friend, Carolyn Jones—a woman who, statistically, should not even be here today. After surviving childhood trauma, addiction, prostitution, prison, abuse, being shot, and even being stabbed, Carolyn's life seemed destined to become another tragic statistic. But today, she shares her remarkable story of how an encounter with the love of God rescued her, redeemed her, and transformed everything. In this conversation, Carolyn vulnerably shares her journey through relapse, recovery, forgiveness, and healing from deep emotional wounds. Together, Patrick and Carolyn explore how childhood trauma shapes our view of what is "normal," why true recovery requires surrender, the importance of confronting our past instead of running from it, and how God's grace meets us even in our darkest moments. Carolyn also shares how learning to forgive, receive love, and take responsibility for her own healing transformed the trajectory of her life. Whether you've experienced addiction, trauma, loss, or simply wonder if God can redeem the broken places in your own story, this episode is a powerful reminder that His love is unfailing. No matter what you've done or what's been done to you, you are never beyond the reach of God's grace. CHAPTERS: 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:41 Finally Feeling Free...in Prison 00:06:51 How I Became a Princess 00:08:50 Relapsing...Back to the Enemy 00:12:31 The Bus Stop Moment 00:16:06 What I learned from relapsing again and again 00:17:54 Healing From Trauma: Unlearning, to Relearn, to Learn 00:22:55 Why I'm thankful I Relapsed 00:27:57 How to Face Your Traumas 00:29:23 How to Forgive Those Who've Hurt You 00:32:13 How can God love a sinner like me? 00:34:10 The Prodigal Son and Daughter 00:38:52 How to Start Healing From Your Traumas 00:41:24 Learning to Have Empathy Towards Your Parents 00:46:42 Hitting Rock Bottom and Learning to Forgive 00:51:13 Asking for Forgiveness: How to Make Amends 00:58:04 This part is for you... 01:03:41 Outro WEBSITE: https://www.nogreyareaspodcast.com/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/nogreyareas_gagliano/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/NoGreyAreas TIK TOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@nogreyareasgagliano EMAIL: info@nogreyareas.com No Grey Areas is a motivational podcast with captivating guests centered around how our choices humanize, empower, and define who we become. This podcast is inspired by the cautionary tale, No Grey Areas, written by Joseph Gagliano. Learn more about the truth behind his story involved with sports' biggest scandal at https://www.nogreyareas.com/