The Burnt Toast Podcast

Virginia Sole-Smith & Corinne Fay

Burnt Toast is your body liberation community. We're working to dismantle diet culture and anti-fat bias, and we have a lot of strong opinions about comfy pants. Co-hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (NYT-bestselling author of FAT TALK) and Corinne Fay (author of the popular plus size fashion newsletter Big Undies).

  1. 4d ago

    AI, Beach Snacks and Book Writing

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay, and today we're answering LISTENER QUESTIONS! ⭐️ Are AI headshots a diet? ⭐️ What are our go-to beach snacks and how are we protecting our folds and rolls as summer heats up and sweat is everywhere? ⭐️ Plus, I will talk about whether I think it's worth it to write a book. Much to discuss! 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix: FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are going to discuss our feelings about shorts. Why did we like them last year? Why do we hate them this year? Are we too old for shorts? We will be getting into this spicy, divisive topic. Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 35:20. BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: seeing the Indigo Girls live Corinne's Butter: Burnt Toast listeners and morning glory muffins Virginia and Corinne's photographer: Molly Haley NPR: Chef Calls 'Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat' The 4 Elements Of Good Cooking Down to Earth by Julia Turshen Calendula Diaper Cream The Workspace For Children 64-ounce Stanley Lyz Lenz: Why I Can't Just Write Books for a Living https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-254-qs-163703500 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    AI, Beach Snacks and Book Writing
  2. Jul 9

    Hormones Have No Gender

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith. Today Corinne Fay is in conversation with Lasara Firefox Allen. Lasara (they/them/Mx.) is a trans and genderqueer author, educator, menopause doula and coach, and the Founder and CEO of Genderqueer Futures, LLC. Lasara is the author of Genderqueer Menopause (North Atlantic Books, 2026) and Magickal Menopause (Llewellyn, forthcoming), and the creator of the Gender-Affirming Menopause Care Certification Course, which trains healthcare providers and allied professionals in inclusive, affirming, dysphoria-aware menopause care. Their work integrates clinical education, lived experience, somatic practice, and social justice frameworks to support gender-expansive people through hormonal transitions. Lasara speaks nationally at conferences including GLMA, UCSF Transgender Health Summit, and Creating Change, and is a leading voice in the emerging field of gender-affirming menopause care. Lasara joined Corinne to chat about their new book Genderqueer Menopause: Navigating Menopause for Trans, Gender-Nonconforming, Genderfluid, and Other Queer-Bodied Folx, thinking about hormones outside of the binary, the difference between performing and living sexual desire, plus self-advocacy in medical settings and so much more. 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Kim, Corinne and I will be chatting a little bit more about midlife and perimenopause in our own lives. Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 38:21. BUTTER & LINKS Corinne's Butter: Hacks Lasara's Butter: Romance audiobooks QueerMenopause.com by Tania Glyde Ari Cohen's Advanced Style Planet Sex With Cara Delevingne When Katie Met Cassidy The Christmas Notch book series Menopause Cabaret You'll want to read Genderqueer Menopause after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout. https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/hormones-have-no-163064835 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Hormones Have No Gender
  3. Jul 2

    Is Nabela Noor the Brown Martha Stewart?

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay, and today we're talking about Nabela Noor. Nabela is a beauty/lifestyle influencer with 2.8 million followers on Instagram. She also has a new show on Tubi called Hosted by Nabela Noor. In this episode we're asking: ⭐️ How does Nabela's recent IWL journey square with her body positivity message? ⭐️ Isn't a warm smoothie just soup? ⭐️ Why is her husband so bad on camera? 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix: FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are going to talk about Yesteryear, the NYT bestselling debut by Caro Claire Burke. It's a book about a time-traveling trad wife, and it's causing quite a stir online. We'll also talk about what we're reading. We will be getting into it. Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 29:23. BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: Needle felting! Extra Large Needle Felting Starter Kit, Cactus Felting Kit and Blue Kitty with Ice Cream Needle Felting Kit. Corinne's Butter: Widow's Bay on Apple TV Houses Get Bigger, Women Get Smaller People Magazine: Nabela Noor Reveals How She Feels About Being Labeled the ‘Brown Martha Stewart’ Beautifully Me by Nabela Noor Nabela's speech at the 2024 Democratic National Convention New York Times: Home Is Where the Clicks Are https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/we-are-not-warm-162427290 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Is Nabela Noor the Brown Martha Stewart?
  4. Jun 25

    The Hot Farmer Romance Episode

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay, and today our conversation is with Julia Turshen. Julia is a New York Times bestselling cookbook author. She writes a twice-weekly newsletter, teaches online cooking classes, farms part-time at Long Season Farm, and is a competitive powerlifter. The Washington Post called her latest cookbook, What Goes with What, “absolutely genius.” Julia lives in the Hudson Valley with her spouse Grace and their many pets. Her debut romance novel, Down to Earth, is out now. Corinne and I are both here because Julia is one of our very favorite Burnt Toast guests. This is her third visit to the pod. Julia joined us to chat about her debut queer romance novel, Down to Earth, how writing recipes helped her write sex scenes, plus the magic of power washing and so much more. FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are chatting about what we're reading and why Corinne maybe secretly doesn't like romance novels, except of course for Julia's. Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 35:50. BUTTER & LINKS Julia's Butters: 1) pregnancy bike shorts for playing tennis; 2) signing up for a class with someone you want to spend more time with; and 3) renting tools, especially power washers. Virginia's Butter: power washing Corinne's Butter: Big Bud Press Drop Pocket Cargo Pants Virginia's Samson Handwoven Indoor/Outdoor Rug Down to Earth cabbage candle and "Small Town Romance" hat from 831 Stories A list of Julia's favorite tomato sandwiches You'll want to read Down to Earth after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout. https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/hot-farmer-161775275 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    The Hot Farmer Romance Episode
  5. Jun 18

    Are Women's Shoes a Diet?

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay, and today we're talking about women's shoes. This is a topic you have all been asking for, and today we're going to answer the question: Are women's shoes are a diet? We're getting into: ⭐️ Virginia's fraught history with high heels; ⭐️ The lie that high heels are comfortable; ⭐️ It's fatphobic for brands to keep making their shoes narrower. Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix: FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are going to talk about the new Lena Dunham memoir Famesick, plus our love for Girls, being a public fat person, chronic illness, et cetera. We will be getting into it. Don't miss out — join us here! BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: Albion Fit pants Corinne's Butter: Tarot for the Wild Soul and Soul Tarot by Lindsay Mack (See also: Lindsay Mack on Big Undies) Em Seely-Katz on Substack: "Can Barefoot Shoes be Stylish? (Part 1: The Contenders)" Famesick: A Memoir by Lena Dunham (See also: Lena Dunham on Big Undies!) Welnove Silicone Toe Separator Spacers Birkenstock Gizeh Big Buckle Birkenstock Boston clogs Adidas Sambae Shoes Adidas VL Court Bold Shoes Veja Esplar Sneaker New Balance 237 Sneaker Nisolo Carmen Chelsea Boot 2.0 Charlotte Stone Raleigh ADIDAS SAMBA OG BLACK Merrell Moab 3 Hiking Shoes Keen Men's Jasper Zionic Sneaker Keen Women's Jasper KM Lite Mary Jane Dr. Martins Madaline Mary Jane Rub Off Leather Sling Back Shoes Adidas SAMBA JANE SHOES https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/are-womens-shoes-161156993 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Are Women's Shoes a Diet?
  6. Jun 11

    Good Moms Don't Have to Be Beige

    You are listening to Burnt Toast. I'm Virginia Sole-Smith. Today my conversation is with Hayley DeRoche. Hayley is a humorist, poet, and the creator of the viral “Sad Beige” TikTok series. Her work has been covered by the BBC, Washington Post, New York Times, and more. She lives with her family near Richmond, Virginia, where she is also a public librarian. Hayley joined me to chat about her new book Dress Your Baby in Sage and Taupe, the origin story of "Sad Beige," perfectionism and performative parenting, plus the beauty and power of mom groups and so much more. 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are chatting about performative parenting and getting into celebrity mom Jenny Mollen's recent controversial boy mom essay. Don't miss out — join us here! BUTTER & LINKS Hayley's Butter: The Baby-Sitters Club Club podcast. Virginia's Butter: Your kids making slime at home, but with very specific rules (aka slime laws, aka s'laws) about where and what they can put their hands on. Here's our basic recipe and here's everything we're using in our slime station. Indulgence Gospel: That Jenny Mollen essay and her Instagram. (She also published this follow-up piece after we recorded.) Paid subscribers, we know a lot of you just read transcripts—don't forget to listen to the audio of this episode for our discussion! It's spicy! You'll want to read Dress Your Baby in Sage and Taupe after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout. Now, here's Haley! https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/good-moms-dont-160536368/ EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Good Moms Don't Have to Be Beige
  7. Jun 4

    What We’re Getting Wrong About Ozempic

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay, and today we're talking about ableism and GLP-1s. Lately, the cultural conversation around GLP-1s has started to get weird. We've noticed how little the conversations around these medications center, or even consider, people who are taking these medications for actual illnesses. It's starting to feel ableist. We're getting into: ⭐️ How mainstream media centers people like Clavicular, celebrities, or thin rich people taking GLP-1s. ⭐️ Why are people taking GLP-1s for diabetes not being included in the conversation? ⭐️ How often cultural discourse about bodies, even illness, medicine, people's experiences of their bodies almost never reflects the experience of people who are actually ill. ⭐️ And Corinne opens up about their own GLP-1 experience, which you can read in even more detail here on Big Undies. 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix: FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are chatting about The Devil Wears Prada 2. Did they fix the fatphobia? Does it make me miss working in fashion magazines? Were editors-in-chief really that bananas? We will be getting into it. Don't miss out — join us here! BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: this neck massager Corinne's Butter: these Old Navy pants Virgie Tovar’s GLP-1 Burnout Support Group The Cut: Losing My Friend Over Wegovy She hid her semaglutide use, knowing that I would spiral. She was right; we haven’t spoken since. By Sophia Ortega Search Engine (podcast): What we got wrong about GLP-1s Weight and Healthcare: Semaglutide 7.2mg - The Ever-Expanding Dose Part 1. By Ragen Chastain NYT: We’re at the Dawn of the Ozempic Era — and It’s Really Weird. By Ezra Klein NYT: We’ve Missed the Point on GLP-1s for Children. By Julia Belluz Intelligencer: The Moral Panic Over Ozempic Misses the Point The media has made the drugs about body politics and our obsession with thinness. That’s the wrong story. By Rachael Bedard https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-were-wrong-159854489 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    What We’re Getting Wrong About Ozempic
  8. May 28

    The Price of Being a Good Girl

    You are listening to Burnt Toast. I'm Virginia Sole-Smith. Today my conversation is with Tracy Clark-Flory. Tracy  is a journalist, essayist, and author of the new memoir My Mother's Daughter: Finding Myself in My Family's Fractured Past, which Kirkus calls "powerful," "deeply researched," "lyrically written," "trenchant," and "moving." She's also the author of Want Me: A Sex Writer’s Journey into the Heart of Desire, an NPR Best Book of the year. Tracy writes a weekly newsletter and co-hosts Dire Straights, a feminist podcast critiquing hetero love, sex, politics and culture. You can find more at tracyclarkflory.com. Tracy joined me to chat about her new memoir My Mother’s Daughter, stigma around unwed motherhood, stigma and shame around women who like sex and how so often daughters don’t know their mothers’ lives, especially the parts having to do with love and sex. 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix: FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.* *Except Spotify: Paid episodes aren't syncing there right now, but we're working on it. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are chatting about my laser hair removal journey. Don't miss out — join us here! BUTTER & LINKS Tracy's Butter: Sexual Pleasure for Dummies by Myisha Battle Virginia's Butter: "Just hanging out with your friends and watching a really good movie you can all really discuss." (We watched Babygirl!) One last thing! You will want to read My Mother’s Daughter after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "fat talk" at checkout. Now here's Tracy. EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.  Producer:  Kim Baldwin.  Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social!  Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.   Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    The Price of Being a Good Girl
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Burnt Toast is your body liberation community. We're working to dismantle diet culture and anti-fat bias, and we have a lot of strong opinions about comfy pants. Co-hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (NYT-bestselling author of FAT TALK) and Corinne Fay (author of the popular plus size fashion newsletter Big Undies).

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