The Burnt Toast Podcast

Virginia Sole-Smith & Corinne Fay

Burnt Toast is your body liberation community. We're working to dismantle diet culture and anti-fat bias, and we have a lot of strong opinions about comfy pants. Co-hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (NYT-bestselling author of FAT TALK) and Corinne Fay (author of the popular plus size fashion newsletter Big Undies).

  1. 4d ago

    Weight-Inclusive Care Is Not Just Being Nice To Fat People

    You're listening to the Burnt Toast podcast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith and today my conversation is with Angel Austin, the executive director of ASDAH, the Association for Size, Diversity and Health.And on Indulgence Gospel!Corinne is out this week, so producer Kim Baldwin is joining me, and we're going to talk about fall books!Indulgence Gospel segments are for paid subscribers, who also get transcripts and commenting privileges. Don't miss out — join us here! FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 36:34. You can find an AI-generated transcript of this segment if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!Meet today's guest!As a Black, infinifat, and disabled woman, Angel's lived experiences inform her work, advocacy, and commitment to building community. In addition to leading ASDAH, Angel is the founder of Sacred Space for Fat Bodies and serves on the board of the Me Little Me Foundation. Angel previously joined us on the podcast in 2024 to talk about how ASDAH has been working to evolve the principles of Health At Every Size, or HAES, which are foundational to the fat liberation movement. HAES is the framework that helps so many of us start to realize we can untangle weight and health, to know we can pursue health in the body we have right now — and that we deserve a healthcare system that meets us where we are, and treats us with dignity and respect. ASDAH is on the front lines of working with healthcare providers to understand that. And right now, ASDAH really needs our help.In order to stay operational, ASDAH needs to raise $15,000 by the end of September. There are over 50,000 of you reading this email, and we're already 75 percent of the way there — so let's crush that goal and help ASDAH continue to do the vital work they do on behalf of fat and disabled folks everywhere — so click the link in your episode description to support ASDAH today. I'm matching the first $5,000 we raised. Join us here!  BUTTER & LINKSVirginia's Butter: This episode of Code Switch: "Freedom" from fatness: Why GLP-1s go after Black bodies Angel's Butters: TikTok recipes (specifically tuna and rice with furikake) and rest Fearing the Black Body by Sabrina Strings Ragen Chastain's newsletter ASDAH event on September 25 called Beyond BMI Belly of the Beast by Da'Shaun L. Harrison https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-263-tk-169518176 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Weight-Inclusive Care Is Not Just Being Nice To Fat People
  2. Sep 10

    Bryan Johnson Is The Ultimate Diet

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay and today we are discussing longevity final boss, Bryan Johnson.Bryan Johnson is a person I did not know existed, but Corinne says is the most famous toxic man trying to live forever through diet culture and technology. Wish I knew less! But he's a major driving force in diet culture right now, so we're getting into: ⭐️ What is a "Blood Boy" and who needs one? ⭐️ Why Bryan tweets his son's nightly erection data. ⭐️ A girlfriend who has the "top 1% of all vaginas" (and how us non-elite vaginas should feel about that). 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 And on Indulgence Gospel!Corinne and I are discussing credit cards: Do we love them? Fear them? And are credit card points a diet? (If so, Virginia is ON IT.)Indulgence Gospel segments are for paid subscribers, who also get transcripts and commenting privileges. Don't miss out — join us here! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 39:20! You can find an AI-generated transcript of this segment if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! BUTTER & LINKSVirginia's Butter: foam roller Corinne's Butter: Kin by Tayari Jones The Wall Street Journal Instagram post Bryan Johnson's "Don't Die Protocol" Famished by Anna Rollins and Tia Leving's memoir New York Times (gift link): He Said He Was the World’s Healthiest Man. Then Came a Stunning Diagnosis. The Cut: Bryan Johnson Is Dating His Co-founder Info on his girlfriend's vaginal microbiome that he tweeted. The Wall Street Journal: Bryan Johnson’s Girlfriend Wants to Share Her Body With the World 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix: FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/bryan-johnson-is-168956631 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Bryan Johnson Is The Ultimate Diet
  3. Sep 3

    Your Body Positive Back to School Plan

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Zoë Bisbing. Zoë is an internationally recognized therapist, speaker, and content creator who helps people feel more at home in their bodies. She is the founder of Body-Positive Therapy NYC, a group practice specializing in the treatment of eating disorders, and the creator of the bestselling Substack Body-Positive Home. Her work reaches more than 100,000 caregivers, educators, clinicians, and adults learning how to nurture body image resilience in the next generation while transforming their own relationships with food and their bodies along the way. Zoë joined me to chat about: ⭐️ What you can do around the house to show your kids that your home is safe for all bodies. ⭐️ How we're preparing for back to school season—especially clothes shopping! ⭐️ A listener question from the Anti-Diet Parenting chat that sums up so many of the struggles that so many of us have as we're parenting in the abyss that is diet culture. 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I will be answering another listener question from the Burnt Toast Anti-Diet Parenting chat. This person needs to know what to do about a diety ex-husband. Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 48:00. BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: Turning sidewalk chalk into paint by bashing it up with rocks and mixing it with water. Zoë's Butter: Ina Garten's cream cheese frosting, the anticipation of a girls trip, organizing art supplies and finding a surprise treat from her daughter. "Can we take GLP1s in a Body-Positive Home? And other balancing act questions..." (Substack) Zoë's reel about putting a NWFMBA bag in your kids' closet. Barefoot Contessa flag cake recipe https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-261-zoe-164981251 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Your Body Positive Back to School Plan
  4. Aug 27

    Is Menopause a Diet?

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Cole Kazdin. Cole is an Emmy Award-winning television journalist and author of What's Eating Us: Women, Food, and the Epidemic of Body Anxiety. Cole joined us as an eating disorder expert, and as a fellow woman in perimenopause who is reeling from all the diet culture nonsense coming for us in this stage of life. Cole will help us answer: Is menopause a diet? And we’ll also talk about everyone’s favorite menopause influencer, Dr. Mary Claire Haver. Is SHE a diet? 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are answering your fat fashion questions! How to manage a wardrobe to fit weight fluctuations? Is it getting harder to shop as brands eliminate their plus size lines? Skinny jeans, yay or nay? Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 35:09. BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: a plunge pool Cole's Butter: her friend Catherine’s swimming pool One last thing! You'll want to read What's Eating Us: Women, Food, and the Epidemic of Body Anxiety after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout. https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/is-menopause-164981198 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Is Menopause a Diet?
  5. Aug 20

    Reclaiming Chivalry with Savala Nolan

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Savala Nolan. Savala is a writer, public speaker and professor at UC Berkeley. Her brand new book, Good Woman: A Reckoning is out now. Her first book, Don’t Let It Get You Down: Essays on Race, Gender and the Body, was shortlisted for the William Saroyan Prize and celebrated as a “standout collection” by the New York Times. Savala's writing has been featured in Vogue, Harper’s Magazine, the New York Times, NPR, TIME and more. This conversation originally ran as a paywalled episode in March, but today we're unlocking it for everyone to enjoy! 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are talking about peptides, bro science and I’m sorry to say, Clavicular, the 20-year-old looksmaxxer extraordinaire. Don't miss out — join us here!  If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 31:30. You can read the transcript from our original Peptide Bros episode here. You can also find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: Heated Rivalry, the show and the books Savala's Butter: being around water, and extremely trashy reality TV that features a love story One last thing! If you order Good Woman from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "fat talk" at checkout. https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/double-ep-but-164981135 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Reclaiming Chivalry with Savala Nolan
  6. Aug 13

    Screen Time Feelings with Ash Brandin

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Ash Brandin of Screen Time Strategies, also know as The Gamer Educator on Instagram. Ash is also the author of the book, Power On: Managing Screen Time to Benefit the Whole Family. Ash helps caregivers navigate screen time boundaries, to ensure it benefits the whole family. I turn to Ash’s work whenever I am feeling panicked about our family’s relationship with screen time — which happens every summer around this time, so it seems like a good moment to revisit this conversation! 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I will be talking about plus size fashion influencer and body acceptance advocate Katie Sturino — who teamed up with WeightWatchers. What happened there? Where is the line between body liberation activism and capitalism? Don't miss out — join us here! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 50:24. You can read the transcript from Katie Sturino's original episode here. You can also find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: A floof Ash's Butter: A Mamachari bicycle One last thing! You'll want to read Power On: Managing Screen Time to Benefit the Whole Family after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout. https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/double-ep-screen-164981019 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Screen Time Feelings with Ash Brandin
  7. Aug 6

    Lindy West's Life in a Tripod

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith and today my conversation is with Lindy West. Lindy is the author of four books, The New York Times bestselling memoir, Shrill, as well as the essay collections, The Witches Are Coming and Shit, Actually, and her brand new memoir Adult Braces, out now. Lindy is the co-host of the comedy podcast, Text Me Back!!! and the author of the newsletter Butt News. Lindy was a writer and executive producer on Shrill, the Hulu comedy adapted from her memoir, and she co-wrote and produced the independent feature film, Thin Skin. Today we are giving you the second half of our episode with Lindy, which originally ran as a paywalled episode. When Adult Braces came out earlier this year, it just about broke the Internet with discourse around Lindy’s marriage, body, and so much more. We chatted about it all in this conversation—and today we are unlocking it so that everyone can listen! 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are answering your fat fashion questions! How are we doing layers in perimenopause? Best ways to combat chafing and chub rub? What are we doing about pants? Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 30:25. BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: Don Chilio chili crisp Lindy's Butter: quesadillas and Shirley Temples One last thing! You will want to read Adult Braces after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout. https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/lindy-wests-life-164980900 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Lindy West's Life in a Tripod
  8. Jul 30

    Ariana Grande, Demi Moore, Olivia Wilde & Diet Culture DIscourse

    You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay and today we are discussing the rise of extreme thinness in Hollywood. This is a subject many of you have asked about, and honestly, I think we've been resistant to talking about, but it is time. We're getting into: ⭐️ Ariana Grande, Olivia Wilde and Demi Moore ⭐️ How do we find compassion for these folks while still having a conversation about the larger, insidious system. ⭐️ What would we say to the younger generation? 🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈 Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix: FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice. PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice. Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are discussing supplements, and Corinne is doing a taste test of Moon Juice. Don't miss out — join us here! Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 34:03. BUTTER & LINKS Virginia's Butter: The Four Seasons on Netflix Corinne's Butter: American cheese Yes, We Need to Talk about Wicked Bodies TikTok about extreme thinness discourse Natalie Reilly via I Say This With Love: What Nobody is Telling You About Olivia Wilde's Face (Substack) Caroline Calloway via Byline: The Drug That Made Me Want Less Liz Plank via Airplane Mode: What If We're Not Actually Worried About Ariana Grande (Substack) Taffy Brodesser-Akner via NYT: How Goop’s Haters Made Gwyneth Paltrow’s Company Worth $250 Million: Inside the growth of the most controversial brand in the wellness industry. https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-256-164562981 EPISODE CREDITS Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay. Producer: Kim Baldwin. Logo design: Deanna Lowe. Theme Song: Farideh. Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron Follow us on social! Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith. Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies. Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders. Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

    Ariana Grande, Demi Moore, Olivia Wilde & Diet Culture DIscourse
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Burnt Toast is your body liberation community. We're working to dismantle diet culture and anti-fat bias, and we have a lot of strong opinions about comfy pants. Co-hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (NYT-bestselling author of FAT TALK) and Corinne Fay (author of the popular plus size fashion newsletter Big Undies).