Narativ Leadership Story Talks

Narativ Inc

Leadership Story Talks is a podcast hosted by Jerome Deroy, CEO of Narativ, and Julienne Ryan, business author, communication and HR specialist, and frequent Narativ training contributor.In each episode, Jerome and Jules discuss the practices that engage, motivate, develop, retain, and attract people to businesses, whether these are your customers or your employees. Their principles and tools are based on real world stories that leverage listening and storytelling to become a better leader and management professional.

  1. 6d ago

    Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Moments That Matter

    “People remember moments more than processes.”In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, we reflect on our conversation with Chris Dyer and explore why the moments leaders choose to acknowledge can have such a lasting impact on culture, trust, and employee engagement.  Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan unpack Chris’s idea that employees rarely remember the day-to-day processes or meetings—but they do remember the moments when leaders paused, noticed their work, and made them feel valued. The conversation explores how acknowledgment, storytelling, and values-based leadership shape whether people feel connected to an organization… or eventually choose to leave it. This episode also dives into the role storytelling plays in making organizational values visible—not just written on a wall or website, but embodied through real actions and real people. You’ll Hear Why leaders need to intentionally “mark the moment” instead of immediately moving on to the next taskHow acknowledgment and respect can directly impact employee retentionWhy people remember experiences and human moments more than systems or processesThe connection between storytelling and making organizational values visibleHow stories build trust internally and externallyWhy values only matter when leaders actively recognize and celebrate themJulienne’s insight on the danger of “commoditizing relationships” at workJerome’s reflection on how storytelling helps organizations attract people aligned with their valuesResources & Links 🎧 Listen to our full conversation with Chris Dyer: Moments That Matter with Chris Dyer Here's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    10 min
  2. Jun 1

    Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss the LIVE Storytelling Event

    “Stories reveal something universal precisely because they are so specific.” In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks LIVE, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on the powerful themes that emerged from the latest Stories That Shaped Us live event featuring Kelly Skwarcan, Christy Pretzinger, and Jen Mueller. Together, they explore what the stories revealed about leadership, kindness, connection, vulnerability, and what it really means to “win.” From stepping away from toxic environments, to creating space for others to shine, to building businesses rooted in kindness, the conversation uncovers how deeply personal stories can illuminate universal truths. Jerome and Julienne also reflect on why people are so hungry for authentic connection right now — and how storytelling helps us feel less alone in an increasingly divided world.  You’ll Hear Why the stories from this live event all connected around the idea of “winning” — and redefining what winning really means How great leadership often means stepping out of the spotlight so others can shine Why specific, deeply personal stories often reveal the most universal truths The connection between storytelling, belonging, and feeling less alone How curiosity and listening can counter division and polarization Julienne’s realization that storytelling can permeate even everyday communication like emails and updates Why storytelling is less about memorizing words and more about being present and connected in the moment Resources & Links Listen to the full Leadership Story Talks LIVE event episode: HERE The Listening Lab Want to deepen your listening, storytelling, and communication skills in a live community setting? Take advantage of a special free one-month trial of The Listening Lab: The Listening Lab Free Trial: https://listeninglabfreespot.carrd.co/ Join Us Live Want to experience these storytelling events in real time? Explore upcoming Leadership Story Talks LIVE events here: Narativ Events Page: https://narativ.com/events/ Here's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    13 min
  3. May 26

    Leadership Story Talks LIVE | Stories That Shaped Us

    “Every single person needs to know that they matter.” In this special edition of Leadership Story Talks LIVE! — "Stories That Shaped Us", we explore the deeply human moments that shape who we become as leaders, listeners, and storytellers. Through stories of resilience, kindness, integrity, and unexpected transformation, this live event reminds us that storytelling is not about polished performance — it’s about presence, connection, and the courage to share what’s real. Featuring Kelly Skwarcan, Christy Pretzinger, and Jen Mueller, this conversation explores the moments that tested them, shaped their values, and transformed the way they lead and connect with others. From career setbacks and self-doubt to acts of generosity and spotlighting others, these stories reveal how leadership is often forged in the quiet, deeply personal moments that stay with us long after the event itself ends.  What You’ll Hear How storytelling becomes a shared act between speaker and listenerWhy leadership is often shaped through adversity, reinvention, and vulnerabilityThe power of kindness, psychological safety, and making people feel that they matterWhat it means to give others the spotlight — and why that can transform leadershipStories about resilience, identity, integrity, and purposeWhy listening is not passive, but an active force that shapes human connectionHow meaningful moments can completely change the way we communicate and leadResources & Links For more on Kelly Skwarcan: Kelly Skwarcan Website For more on Christy Pretzinger: Christy Pretzinger Website WG Content Christy Pretzinger LinkedIn For more on Jen Mueller: Jen Mueller LinkedIn Talk Sporty To Me YouTube Channel Talk Sporty Feedback Platform The Listening Lab Want to deepen your listening, storytelling, and communication skills in a live community setting? Take advantage of a special free one-month trial of The Listening Lab: The Listening Lab Free Trial Join Us Live Want to experience these storytelling events in real time? Explore upcoming Leadership Story Talks LIVE events here: Narativ Events Page Here's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    53 min
  4. May 18

    Leadership Story Talks | How Women Navigate Family, Work & Burnout with Giovanna Rossi

    “Women are asked to parent like they don’t have jobs — and work like they don’t have kids.” What happens when resilience becomes both a survival strategy… and a catalyst for systems change? In this episode, we sit down with Giovanna Rossi — public affairs strategist, leadership coach, founder of Family Friendly New Mexico, and host of NPR’s The Well Woman Show. Giovanna shares the deeply personal story that shaped her work: watching her single mother walk across the stage to receive her diploma after years of sacrifice, determination, and raising a family while putting herself through school. That experience became the foundation for Giovanna’s lifelong mission: improving the systems that impact women, caregivers, and families. From policy work and workplace culture to burnout, invisible labor, and values-based leadership, this conversation explores what it means to lead sustainably in a world that often rewards overwork and perfectionism. Giovanna also shares practical insights from her Well Woman framework — helping leaders align their values with their actions so they can make meaningful impact without losing themselves in the process. This is a thoughtful and deeply human conversation about leadership, caregiving, resilience, and redefining success.  You’ll Hear The childhood moment that shaped Giovanna’s understanding of resilience and possibilityHow her mother’s experience as a single parent inspired her work in systems changeWhy career paths are rarely linear — and how “squiggly lines” often lead to purposeThe hidden conflict many caregivers face: “parent like you don’t have a job, work like you don’t have kids”How burnout is often tied to living out of alignment with your valuesGiovanna’s framework for distinguishing between what’s urgent and what’s truly importantWhy community and group support are essential for women leadersThe invisible workload women often carry — and the pressure to appear perfect and productiveHow workplace policy changes can help women and families thrive instead of merely surviveWhy Giovanna believes busy women are the ones most capable of changing the world Resources Well Woman Life The Well Woman Show (NPR): The Well Woman ShowFamily Friendly New MexicoGiovanna Rossi on LinkedIn: Giovanna Rossi LinkedIn@wellwomanlife on Instagram and FacebookHere's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    31 min
  5. May 11

    Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Cultural Differences in Business

    “The more you understand where someone comes from, the more you understand how they show up.” In this debrief episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on their conversation with Dean Foster—and the deeper implications of culture in how we listen, lead, and connect. What begins as a discussion about global cultural differences quickly becomes something more personal: a reminder that culture isn’t just geographic—it’s inherited, lived, and often invisible to us. Drawing from their own backgrounds and past podcast conversations, Jerome and Julienne explore how curiosity about others’ stories can unlock trust, deepen relationships, and ultimately make us better leaders. You’ll Hear - Why culture shapes far more of our behavior than we consciously realize - How exploring your own heritage can deepen your understanding of others - The hidden biases we carry—especially around language, accents, and communication styles - Why curiosity (“How did you get here?”) is one of the most powerful leadership tools - How small investments in understanding others can save time and conflict later - The role of storytelling in uncovering identity, building trust, and fostering collaboration - A simple but powerful call to action: ask better questions and invite stories Key Takeaway We often prioritize efficiency over connection—but when we skip the human context, we lose the very thing that makes collaboration work. Understanding someone’s culture isn’t about memorizing differences. It’s about being curious enough to listen to the story behind the person. Resources Listen to the full conversation in episode #184 with Dean Foster Related episode #67 with Heather Hansen on language, accents, and bias Here's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    12 min
  6. May 4

    Leadership Story Talks | From Wonder to Space With Bryce Kennedy

    “If it weren’t for hope in those 90% failures, I’m not sure where I’d be.” What if a single moment—something as simple as noticing a poster on a wall—could change the trajectory of your life? In this episode, we sit down with Bryce Kennedy, Executive Director of Space Valley Foundation and Space Connectivity Senior Officer at the United Nations’ International Telecommunication Union. Bryce shares the unexpected journey that led him from law, consulting, and even acting… into the world of space. At the heart of his story is a powerful idea: wonder. From a pivotal pandemic moment under the stars to building a global initiative designed to ensure access to space for all, Bryce’s journey is anything but linear. It’s a story of experimentation, resilience, and ultimately aligning with something deeply human—the search for hope and meaning. This conversation invites us to rethink how we approach our careers, our failures, and the values that quietly guide us. You’ll Hear How a chance encounter with a NASA roadmap reignited Bryce’s childhood sense of wonder—and changed everythingWhy a “90% failure rate” can actually be a sign you’re on the right pathThe unexpected throughline in Bryce’s career: from law to acting to spaceHow hope became the hidden driver behind his life and workWhy “wonder” is more than a feeling—it’s a gateway to innovation and global collaborationThe mission behind Space Valley Foundation and the global Space for Good initiativeA powerful reframe: instead of forcing outcomes, align with your “North Star” and let possibilities emergeResources Space Valley FoundationBryce Kennedy on LinkedInHere's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    38 min
  7. Apr 27

    Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Sequoia v Bonsai

    “It’s not about perfection, it’s about connection.” Overview What if growth isn’t supposed to look polished? In this debrief episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on their conversation with Nicolas Darveau-Garneau and his powerful metaphor: be a sequoia, not a bonsai. A bonsai is carefully shaped, controlled, and aesthetically pleasing—but limited. A sequoia, on the other hand, grows wild and tall over time, shaped by its environment, weathering challenges, and drawing strength from deep roots. This conversation explores what that metaphor means for leadership, storytelling, and organizational culture. From embracing experimentation and failure, to balancing structure with openness, Jerome and Julienne unpack how real growth happens—not through control or perfection, but through connection, listening, and lived experience. You’ll Hear Why organizations that prioritize experimentation over perfection are the ones that truly grow How “messy” stories—especially the ones that didn’t go as planned—build trust and connectionThe hidden tension between control (bonsai) and organic growth (sequoia) in leadership and cultureWhy Narativ’s methodology balances both: structure that creates safety + space for authentic expressionHow storytelling isn’t the starting point—it’s the result of intentional listening and connection-buildingWhy the real goal isn’t just telling a story, but being heard and acknowledgedHow drawing from past experiences—both positive and difficult—creates meaning and forward momentumResources 🎧 Listen to the full conversation with Nick HEREHere's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    14 min
  8. Apr 20

    Leadership Story Talks | A Life Uncovered with Kenny Leahman

    “If I was scattered, the team was scattered—and it was life or death.” What happens when the life you’ve built is also the life you’re hiding inside? In this episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with leadership coach and former CIA officer Kenny Leahman to explore the concept of “living under cover”—and what it takes to drop it. From volunteering for two years in Afghanistan during the height of the war to navigating the internal conflict of living a double life, Kenny shares how extreme environments sharpened his understanding of focus, trust, and leadership. But it’s his personal journey—coming out to his wife, his organization, and ultimately himself—that reveals the deeper cost of inauthenticity. This conversation moves beyond storytelling into something more fundamental: the courage to be seen, the role of self-awareness in leadership, and the transformational power of dropping the covers that hold us back. You’ll Hear – How a life-and-death leadership environment in Afghanistan clarified what truly matters  – Why focus isn’t just a productivity tool—but a signal of leadership and commitment – The surprising parallel between intelligence work and coaching: deep, trust-based relationships  – What it means to “live under cover”—and why everyone, in some way, does – The internal cost of misalignment between identity, values, and behavior – A powerful story of coming out—and the unexpected leadership response that changed everything  – How fear of being “found out” shows up as imposter syndrome in leaders – The role of self-awareness in leadership—and why lack of it can do real harm – How to identify the gap between the values you claim and the values you live – Why dropping your cover doesn’t just transform you—it expands your impact – The three questions every leader should ask themselves: Who am I? Who do I need to be? How do I get there? Resources Kenny's website Connect with Kenny on LinkedIN Kenny's story on Yahoo! News Here's a link to the LISTENING LAB Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus: Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course) Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc TWITTER @narativ Buy Julienne’s book here

    38 min

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Leadership Story Talks is a podcast hosted by Jerome Deroy, CEO of Narativ, and Julienne Ryan, business author, communication and HR specialist, and frequent Narativ training contributor.In each episode, Jerome and Jules discuss the practices that engage, motivate, develop, retain, and attract people to businesses, whether these are your customers or your employees. Their principles and tools are based on real world stories that leverage listening and storytelling to become a better leader and management professional.

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