Drafting the Past

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Drafting the Past is a podcast devoted to the craft of writing history. Each episode features an interview with a historian about the joys and challenges of their work as a writer.

  1. 5d ago

    Thomas Andrews Revels in Revision

    Bookshop.org links are affiliate links. Subscribe for free to the Drafting the Past newsletter for podcast updates, book reviews, and more. Paid subscribers get ad-free episodes and exclusive content. In this episode, Kate interviews Dr. Thomas Andrews, a historian who cares deeply about the writing—and revision—process. Thomas is a professor of history at the University of Colorado Boulder and is also the faculty director of the Center for the American West. He’s the author of three books, including the Bancroft-award winning Killing for Coal: America’s Deadliest Labor War, Coyote Valley: Deep History in the High Rockies, and his newest book, The Great Horse Flu: A Forgotten Pandemic and the Fate of Reconstruction America. In addition to his own writing, he has interviewed historians as part of the Writer’s Studio feature in the journal Modern American History, which is a series of terrific interviews about how some of the most highly regarded American historians work. As you might imagine, Kate and Thomas had a great time talking about the writing process and especially Thomas’ love of revision. This one also includes a treadmill desk, a harrowing publishing tale, and why he might have taken Bill Cronon’s dissertation advice a little too seriously. Mentioned in this episodeThomas Andrews, The Great Horse Flu: A Forgotten Pandemic and the Fate of Reconstruction AmericaThomas Andrews, Coyote Valley: Deep History in the High RockiesThomas Andrews, Killing for Coal: America’s Deadliest Labor WarSusan Orlean, “The Walking Alive,” on using a treadmill deskWriter’s Studio feature archives in Modern American History journalLinda GordonWilliam CrononRichard WhiteDonald WorsterPatricia LimerickCurb Your Enthusiasm

    Thomas Andrews Revels in Revision

  2. Sep 29

    Eric Jay Dolin Never Wants to Be Bored

    Note: Links to bookshop.org are affiliate links. Thanks for supporting the show and independent bookstores by purchasing books through these links! About this episodeFor this episode, Kate is joined by Eric Jay Dolin, the New York Times-bestselling author of 17 books, to talk about his writing process and what it’s like to build a career as an author of popular histories. His books include Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America; A Furious Sky: The Five-Hundred-Year History of America’s Hurricanes; Black Flags, Blue Waters: The Epic History of America’s Most Notorious Pirates; and Rebels at Sea: Privateering in the American Revolution. His most recent book is The Wreck of the Mentor: A True Story of Death, Despair, and Deliverance in the Age of Sail. His books have won awards and are frequently named best books of the year. Before writing history books, Eric worked in environmental policy and earned a PhD in environmental policy and planning from MIT. We talked about how his career has developed, the ups and downs of the book market, and he dished about advances, career trajectories, and why he thinks he’d rather have a huge book now than early in his career. Mentioned in this episode:Eric Jay Dolin, The Wreck of the Mentor: A True Story of Death, Despair, and Deliverance in the Age of Sail Samuel Eliot Morison, The Maritime History of Massachusetts, 1783-1860 Erik Larson, Isaac’s Storm: A Man, a Time, and the Deadliest Hurricane in History James Truslow Adams, The Founding of New England

    Eric Jay Dolin Never Wants to Be Bored

  3. Sep 22

    Catherine Grace Katz Can Just Feel It

    Visit draftingthepast.com to sign up for the newsletter and get book reviews, podcast updates, and much more. Note: Bookshop.org links are affiliate links. About this episode:How many history books have kept you up late into the night, turning the page to find out what happens next? That’s exactly what the newest book from this episode’s guest did to Kate, but it was well worth the lost sleep. Catherine Grace Katz joins the Drafting the Past podcast to talk about her newest book, Shadow Before the Flame: The Hindenburg Disaster and the Prelude to War. Catherine is a writer, historian, and lawyer, with degrees in history from Harvard and Cambridge along with a JD from Harvard. Her first book was Daughters of Yalta: The Churchills, Roosevelts, and Harrimans: A Story of Love and War. She joined Kate to talk about what goes into writing such extraordinary true stories, from how she works without an outline to the writing tool she found in her mom’s basement, and the unlikely inspiration for the book in a classic holiday movie. Mentioned in this episode:Catherine’s websiteCatherine Grace Katz, Daughters of Yalta: The Churchills, Roosevelts, and Harrimans: A Story of Love and WarCatherine Grace Katz, Shadow Before the Flame: The Hindenburg Disaster and the Prelude to WarWilliam L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi GermanyWilliam L. Shirer, Berlin DiaryNorman MacLean, Young Men and FireGioia Diliberto, Firebrands: The Untold Story of Four Women Who Made and Unmade ProhibitionTana FrenchPatrick Radden Keefe, London Falling: A Mysterious Death in a Gilded City and a Family’s Search for Truth and Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern IrelandPhillippe Sands, The Ratline: The Exalted Life and Mysterious Death of a Nazi Fugitive, and the podcast precursor, Intrigue: The RatlineHelena Merriman, Tunnel 29: The True Story of an Extraordinary Escape Beneath the Berline Wall and its podcast precursor, Intrigue: Tunnel 29The Creative Nonfiction Podcast with Brendan O’MearaPitch Club

    Catherine Grace Katz Can Just Feel It

  4. Sep 15

    Tai Edwards and Charlee Huffman Let the Land Tell the Story

    Visit draftingthepast.com to sign up for our newsletter and never miss an episode or book review. In this episode, Kate spoke with Tai S. Edwards and Charlee Huffman, writers and editors of a new book, Shokhi: A Kanza Relative, A Monument, and Rematriation. This book is a little different from others that have appeared on the show: it tells the story of how a group of people, include Kaw Nation citizens, historians, artists, activists, and others worked together to bring a grandfather rock, In‘zhúje‘waxóbe, back to the Kanza people with whom they had a centuries-long relationship. The boulder had been appropriated as a memorial to the founders of Lawrence, Kansas, and the land on which it stood bore witness to many intersecting narratives of people and place. The book, is part history, part artistic expression, and part handbook for this kind of restorative work. Tai and Charlee discussed their collaborative process, incorporating disability accommodation into the heart of their work, and how they let the land lead them in telling a history with many voices. Tai S. Edwards is professor of history and director of the Kansas Studies Institute at Johnson County Community College. She is the author of Osage Women and Empire: Gender and Power and co-editor of Lyda Conley and the Fight to Preserve Huron Indian Cemetery, also published by Kansas. c. huffman is a Kaw Nation Citizen with an MFA and an MDiv who sits at the intersection of privilege, dis/ability and Indigeneity; a place where poetry and theology dance. Her writing has appeared in The Ending Hasn’t Happened Yet, a poetry anthology edited by Hannah Soyer. Note: Links to bookshop.org are affiliate links. Mentioned in this Episode:Shokhi: A Kanza Relative, a Monument, and RematriationPoet Marilyn HaekerMichael Grow, US Presidents and Latin American Interventions: Pursuing Regime Change in the Cold WarUrsula K. Le Guin, Earthsea seriesUrsula K. Le Guin, The DispossessedDoorkeeper of the HeartRobin Wall Kimmerer, Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of PlantsIlona Andrews, This Kingdom Will Not Kill Me

    Tai Edwards and Charlee Huffman Let the Land Tell the Story

  5. Sep 8

    Jared Davidson Treats History as Passion and Practice

    Visit draftingthepast.com to subscribe to the newsletter for book reviews, interviews, essays about history books, and more. Paid subscribers get access to ad-free episodes of the podcast. In this episode, Kate is joined by our first guest from New Zealand, archivist and independent historian Jared Davidson. Though he was not trained as a historian and originally comes from a graphic design background, Jared has written and published five books that focus on overlooked and radical histories of New Zealand, or Aotearoa, as you’ll hear him call it. During the day, he works at the Alexander Turnbull Library, where he is the Research Librarian Manuscripts. His books have won multiple awards in New Zealand and have covered subjects ranging from anarchists to censorship. His most recent book, Blood and Dirt: Prison Labour and the Making of New Zealand, uncovers the ways that incarcerated labor literally shaped the country’s environment and landscape. If you’re a historian who comes to the subject without formal training, you’ll especially love this episode, but there’s a lot here to learn for all of us, including how to weave compelling individual stories into a strong argument, which Jared does brilliantly in this book. Note: Links to bookshop.org are affiliate links. Mentioned in this episode:Jared Davidson’s websiteJared Davidson, Blood & Dirt: Prison Labour and the Making of New ZealandJared Davidson, The History of a RiotJared Davidson, Dead Letters: Censorship and Subversion in New Zealand 1914-1920Jared Davidson, Sewing Freedom: Philip Josephs, Transnationalism, and Early New Zealand AnarchismJared Davidson, Remains to Be Seen: Tracing Joe Hill’s Ashes in New ZealandAlexander Turnbull Library, New ZealandMichel-Rolph Trouillot, Silencing the Past: Power and the Production of HistoryThomas G. Andrews, Killing for Coal: America’s Deadliest Labor WarAdam Hochschild, King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa; Bury the Chains: Prophets and Rebels in the Fight to Free an Empire’s Slaves; To End All Wars: A Story of Loyalty and Rebellion, 1914-1918“James Kelman: I’ll die at the desk. So what. Where’s the coffee?”Marcus Rediker booksMarcus Rediker, “The Poetics of History from Below”

    Jared Davidson Treats History as Passion and Practice

  6. Sep 1

    Lauren Working Communes With the Objects

    Go to draftingthepast.com and subscribe to our newsletter so you never miss an episode! Paid subscribers get access to ad-free episodes and more perks. How does the history of English colonialism in the Renaissance change when you tell that history through objects? In this episode, Kate spoke with Dr. Lauren Working, a historian whose work focuses on England’s colonialism and interactions with Indigenous people in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. Lauren is a lecturer in Early Modern Studies at the University of York. Alongside her research, Lauren is committed to sharing historical knowledge with the public. In fact, as you’ll hear in the interview, she was approached by a literary agent thanks to her work with the BBC. As a result, she published her new book, A Golden World: How The Americas Transformed Tudor and Stuart England, with a trade press. In order to help her tell a story of the Atlantic world from both Indigenous American and colonial British perspectives, Lauren turned to objects. The result is a tactile and beautifully written history of a world of encounter and influence. We talked about the rewards and challenges of writing history through objects and how Lauren brought so many people’s experiences to the page, even when they were largely missing from the archive. Note: Links to bookshop.org are affiliate links. Mentioned in this episode:Lauren Working, A Golden World: How the Americas Transformed Tudor and Stuart EnglandLauren Working, The Making of an Imperial PolityThe internal illustrations for A Golden World were created by artist Rebecca Lee Kunz (Tree of Life Studio), a citizen of the Cherokee NationLauren’s episodes on BBC Radio 3, “Ruffs in Jamestown” and “Boy With a Pearl Earring”Lauren’s guest appearances on BBC Radio 4’s Free Thinking: “Trade and Traffic,” “The Mayflower and Native American History,” “Gifts and Gratitude,” and “The Botanical Past”Christine M. DeLucia, Memory Lands: King Philip’s War and the Place of Violence in the NortheastNational Portrait Gallery learning resource: “Illuminating the global in Tudor and early Stuart portraits,” by Lauren WorkingSara E. Johnson, Encyclopédie Noire: The Making of Moreau de Saint-Méry’s Intellectual World

    Lauren Working Communes With the Objects

  7. Aug 25

    Richard Ivan Jobs and Steven Van Wolputte Figure It Out As They Go

    In episode 110 of the Drafting the Past podcast, Kate interviews historian Richard Jobs and anthropologist and illustrator Steven Van Wolputte. Rick and Steven teamed up to write, illustrate and create In the Land of the Lacandón: A Graphic History of Adventure and Imperialism. Part graphic history, part historical essay, part poetic commentary and more, the book not only tells the history of one moment in 20th century imperial exploration and anthropology but also takes apart the act of historical research and narration and turns it inside out for the reader. Rick and Steven discussed how they conceived of and developed the project and how they collaborated across countries. They also talked about the possibilities of historical narrative, and why the book would be a great teaching tool. And don’t miss the pretty amazing reading list they slipped in at the end. Links to bookshop.org are affiliate links. Mentioned in this episode:Richard Ivan Jobs and Steven Van Wolputte, with Manuel Bolom Pale, In the Land of the Lacandón: A Graphic History of Adventure and ImperialismRichard Ivan Jobs, Backpack Ambassadors: How Youth Travel Integrated EuropeRichard Ivan Jobs, Riding the New Wave: Youth and the Rejuvenation of France After the Second World WarManuel Bolom PaleVoyagers Without TraceMatthew Barrett and Robert C. Engen, Through Their Eyes: A Graphic History of Hill 70 and Canada’s First World WarJoe Sacco, JournalismAlison Bechdel, Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic, Are You My Mother? A Comic Drama, The Secret to Superhuman StrengthArt Spiegelman, Maus: A Survivor’s TaleMichael Vann and Liz Clarke, The Great Hanoi Rat Hunt: Empire, Disease, and Modernity in French Colonial VietnamNick Sousanas, UnflatteningNatalie Zemon Davis, The Return of Martin GuerreCarlo Ginzburg, The Cheese and the Worms: The Cosmos of a Sixteenth-Century MillerLouisa Passerini, Autobiography of a Generation: Italy, 1968Bonnie Smith, Confessions of a Concierge: Madame Lucie’s History of Twentieth-Century FranceCraig Thompson, Ginseng Roots: A Memoir

    Richard Ivan Jobs and Steven Van Wolputte Figure It Out As They Go

  8. Aug 18

    Megan Marshall Believes We Need Exemplary Lives

    Note: Links to bookshop.org are affiliate links. When you purchase books through these links, your purchase supports the authors, independent bookstores, and Drafting the Past. Visit draftingthepast.com to subscribe to the newsletter. This fall, Drafting the Past is expanding, and we'll be publishing book reviews, news, interviews, and more, in addition to the podcast you know and love. Megan Marshall estimated that it might take her 3 ½ years to write her first biography. In would up taking 20. Her commitment was worth it, though. In this episode of the Drafting the Past podcast, Kate interviews Megan Marshall about how she approaches the subjects and structures of her books, and what has kept her going—plus, why she believes biography is essential now. Megan is a writer and biographer who got her start writing book reviews. Her first biography was The Peabody Sisters: Three Women Who Ignited American Romanticism. It was awarded multiple prizes and became a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in biography and memoir. Her second book, Margaret Fuller: A New American Life, won the Pulitzer Prize in Biography, and her third book was Elizabeth Bishop: A Miracle for Breakfast, a biography of the poet, Bishop, interwoven with chapters from Megan’s own life leading up to her study with Bishop. She has also been awarded the BIO award, the highest honor given by the Biographers International Organization. This year, she published a book of essays called After Lives: On Biography and the Mysteries of the Human Heart. It includes pieces on her family’s history, her own encounters with historic events, and some further investigations into research that didn’t make it in to her other books. Mentioned in this episodeMegan Marshall, After Lives: On Biography and the Mysteries of the Human HeartMegan Marshall, Elizabeth Bishop: A Miracle for BreakfastMegan Marshall, Margaret Fuller: A New American LifeMegan Marshall, The Peabody Sisters: Three Women Who Ignited American RomanticismMegan Marshall, “How Do You Like Your History? With Imaginative Leaps or Grounded in Fact?” New York Times, March 7, 2025Biographers International OrganizationMegan Marshall, “Born in 1810, Margaret Fuller Was Labeled a Child Prodigy. She Later Used Her Intellect to Ask Important Questions About Women’s Role in America,” Smithsonian Magazine, Summer 2026 Citizen Historians for the Smithsonian

    Megan Marshall Believes We Need Exemplary Lives
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Drafting the Past is a podcast devoted to the craft of writing history. Each episode features an interview with a historian about the joys and challenges of their work as a writer.

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    DTP Media LLC
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
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