FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye - Healthy Leadership for Life and Ministry

Jason Daye
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As pastors, how can we best embrace healthy, well-balanced leadership for our life and ministry? Join PastorServe executive, Jason Daye, every week as he invites insightful church leaders into a conversation to explore this very question. Jason knows, firsthand, the challenges of being a pastor and the importance of developing a sustainable rhythm for life and ministry. Each episode helps equip pastors, just like you, with a faithful balance across both your more public FrontStage, and your more personal BackStage, so you can thrive in all areas of life. But FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership podcast, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free downloadable toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. We are grateful for the opportunity to play a part in your ongoing ministry, encouraging you to serve and live in healthy and sustainable ways. So join us as, together, we learn to love well, live well, and lead well. Learn more and download the free weekly toolkit at PastorServe.org/network

  1. 2d ago

    Is Ministry Outpacing Formation? - Chuck DeGroat - 236 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    Chuck DeGroat explores why spiritual formation cannot be rushed and how the pace, pressure, and expectations of ministry can outpace the deeper work God is doing in us. Can ministry move faster than our formation? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, therapist and spiritual director Chuck DeGroat joins host Jason Daye to explore why pastors and ministry leaders cannot rush the deeper work of becoming. Ministry often rewards what is fast, efficient, productive, and measurable. Leaders can be thrust into responsibility, learn how to perform the work of ministry, and even become highly competent long before deeper spiritual and emotional formation has had time to take root. Chuck describes formation as a process of “ripening,” reminding us that genuine maturity develops slowly and cannot simply be accelerated to meet the demands around us. Chuck is a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, a licensed therapist, spiritual director, and founder of the Soul Care Collaborative. Drawing from his latest book, Who You're Becoming, he helps us consider what happens when ministry keeps moving but our souls need time, attention, and care. Together they discuss: • What happens when ministry responsibility develops faster than the person carrying it • Why some patterns that help leaders succeed early can become costly later • How spiritual practices can quietly become another form of striving • What pastors may mistake for vulnerability, even when they are sharing openly • Why the pursuit of impact can make faithful ministry harder to recognize • What seasons of disruption may reveal about the way a leader has been formed If you're a pastor or ministry leader feeling the pressure to keep producing, growing, and carrying more, this conversation offers an invitation to pay attention to the slower work happening beneath the surface. Formation cannot be microwaved or manufactured. God is at work in who you are becoming, and that work often happens at a pace very different from the pace ministry demands. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    Is Ministry Outpacing Formation? - Chuck DeGroat - 236 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

  2. Oct 13

    When Ministry Becomes a Measure of Your Worth - Stasi Eldredge - 235 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    Bestselling author Stasi Eldredge joins Jason Daye to explore how pastors can begin measuring their worth through ministry and rediscover intimacy with God beyond what they accomplish for Him. Can ministry become a measure of your worth? Bestselling author Stasi Eldredge joins Jason Daye to explore how pastors and ministry leaders can begin measuring their relationship with God by how useful they are to Him. Serving God is a beautiful expression of love, but something can quietly shift. We begin looking to our ministry, productivity, and effectiveness for reassurance that we are valuable and pleasing to God. Even when our desire to serve is genuine, we can lose sight of the deeper relationship Jesus invites us into. Stasi is a New York Times bestselling author and cofounder of Wild at Heart. Drawing from her new book, The Ladder of Love, she shares her own experience of seeking God's approval through service and explores how Scripture invites us into a much richer relationship with Him. Together, Jason and Stasi consider what changes when ministry flows from intimacy with God rather than becoming the measure of our worth. Together they discuss: How serving God can quietly become a way of measuring our value and relationship with HimWhat pastors may be missing when their relationship with God centers primarily on serving HimHow our personal experiences of love shape what we expect from GodThe difference between doing things for God and living in partnership with HimWhat can change when we stop measuring ministry success through other people's responsesWhere to begin when we know how to serve God but struggle to receive His loveIf you're a pastor or ministry leader who has begun to feel the weight of needing to accomplish more for God, this conversation offers an invitation to reconsider how you're relating to Him. Your ministry matters, but your worth was never meant to depend on what you produce. Jesus invites you to know His love personally and allow your service to grow from that relationship. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    When Ministry Becomes a Measure of Your Worth - Stasi Eldredge - 235 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

  3. Oct 6

    You Don't Have to Be Remarkable - Faith Eury Cho - 234 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    Pastor and author Faith Eury Cho shares how ministry leaders can find freedom from the pressure to be remarkable by trusting the Holy Spirit to work through ordinary faithfulness. Do you ever feel pressure to be remarkable in ministry? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, pastor and author Faith Eury Cho joins host Jason Daye to explore the freedom that comes when we realize the Holy Spirit is the remarkable One. Ministry can quietly create expectations about what it means to be used by God. We can begin to believe our work needs to be impressive, visible, or somehow extraordinary to really matter. But what if faithfulness sometimes looks far more ordinary than we've imagined? And what freedom might we experience if we no longer needed to be noticed or completely understood? Faith began preaching at nineteen and has spent much of her life learning this firsthand. She is the co-founder and co-pastor of Mosaic Covenant Church and the author of Experiencing Friendship with God and her new book, Unlikely and Anointed. Through her own journey, Faith has discovered that God often works in unexpected ways through ordinary people who are willing to trust the leading and power of the Holy Spirit. Faith and Jason explore the temptation to make ministry remarkable, the freedom of being unseen, and what happens when following the Holy Spirit leads us somewhere that may not make strategic sense or be easily understood by others. Together they discuss: Why the desire to do something remarkable for God can quietly become a burden in ministryHow Faith learned to embrace the freedom of being unseen rather than needing to be noticedWhy the Holy Spirit is the remarkable One and how that changes the way we understand our role in ministryThe freedom to be misunderstood when obedience to God does not make sense to everyone around usWhy God's leading sometimes challenges what appears strategically wise or predictableHow ordinary faithfulness creates space for the Holy Spirit to work in ways we could never manufacture ourselvesIf you're a pastor or ministry leader carrying expectations about what your ministry should look like, how much impact you should be making, or whether others recognize what you're doing, this conversation offers a freeing invitation. You don't have to manufacture something remarkable. You can faithfully serve, trust the Holy Spirit to work in ways you may never be able to predict or measure, and rest in knowing that you were never meant to be the remarkable One. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    You Don't Have to Be Remarkable - Faith Eury Cho - 234 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

  4. Sep 29

    Jay Kim - When Pastors Stop Paying Attention - 233 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    Pastor and author Jay Kim explores how the demands of ministry can leave us attentive to everyone else while increasingly disconnected from what is happening within our own spiritual lives. Pastors spend much of their lives tending to the needs, questions, and spiritual lives of others. But what happens when caring for so many others leaves us increasingly inattentive to what is happening within us? In this conversation on FrontStage BackStage, pastor and author Jay Kim joins host Jason Daye to explore the gift of living an examined life. Ministry gives us plenty of legitimate demands on our attention. Sermons need preparing, people need caring for, decisions need making, and unexpected situations constantly require a response. Over time, however, we can become so accustomed to responding to what is around us that we lose awareness of what is happening in our own souls and even of God's presence with us in the midst of it all. Jay is the lead pastor of WestGate Church in Silicon Valley, host of The Digital Examen podcast, and author of several books, including his newest, The Pace of Peace. Drawing from his own experience and the ancient practice of the Examen, Jay invites ministry leaders to consider how the pace and patterns of our lives are forming us. Together, they discuss: Why pastors can become highly attentive to everyone else while losing awareness of what is happening in their own spiritual livesWhat the constant demands of ministry may be doing to our capacity for presence, attention, and life with GodHow to recognize when faithful responsiveness in ministry has quietly turned into reactivityWhat an examined life can reveal about the pressures, patterns, and motivations shaping us beneath the surfaceWhy pastors may know the language of spiritual maturity while still struggling to see clearly what is happening within themselvesHow the Examen can help ministry leaders move beyond hurried self-awareness toward deeper reflection, honesty, and attentiveness to GodIf you are a pastor or ministry leader who spends much of your life attending to the needs, questions, and spiritual lives of others, this conversation offers an invitation to notice your own life again. Not as an exercise in self-focus, but as a way of becoming more present to God, more honest about what is happening within you, and more attentive to the person you are being formed to become. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    Jay Kim - When Pastors Stop Paying Attention - 233 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

  5. Sep 22

    When Good Intentions Take Control - Lysa TerKeurst - 232 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    New York Times bestselling author Lysa TerKeurst joins Jason Daye to help pastors and ministry leaders recognize when good intentions, responsibility, and care can quietly turn into control. Can good intentions quietly become control in ministry? New York Times bestselling author Lysa TerKeurst joins Jason Daye to help pastors and ministry leaders examine the line between faithful responsibility and trying to manage outcomes that ultimately belong to God. Ministry leaders often want genuinely good things. We want people to grow, churches to flourish, relationships to heal, wise decisions to be made, and our ministries to bear meaningful fruit. But what happens when our conviction that something good should happen begins making us feel responsible for ensuring that it does? Lysa is president and chief visionary officer of Proverbs 31 Ministries and the author of eight New York Times bestsellers. Her newest book, Making Peace with What I Can’t Control, explores the exhaustion that comes from overthinking, trying to change others, and carrying responsibility for things beyond our control. In this conversation, Lysa and Jason explore why capable, caring leaders can struggle to recognize control in themselves, why releasing people may sometimes be easier than releasing outcomes, and the provocative lesson Lysa draws from Judas, who may have become so convinced of the outcome he believed was right that he tried to move Jesus toward it. Together they discuss: Why the leaders who care the most may be the least likely to recognize control in themselvesWhat happens when helping someone becomes needing them to changeWhy surrendering people may be easier than surrendering what happens nextWhat Judas may reveal about trying to move God toward an outcome we believe is rightHow a genuinely good desire can become something we were never meant to carryWhat may be hiding beneath the exhaustion of feeling responsible for everythingIf you are a pastor or ministry leader who feels deeply responsible for people, decisions, and what happens next, this conversation offers an important invitation to examine where faithfulness ends and control begins. We can care deeply, lead responsibly, and pursue what is good without assuming responsibility for outcomes that ultimately belong to God. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    When Good Intentions Take Control - Lysa TerKeurst - 232 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

  6. Sep 15

    When Pastors Don't Know Where to Turn - Jimmy Dodd - 231 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    PastorServe founder Jimmy Dodd joins Jason Daye to explore why pastors and ministry leaders need trusted people to turn to before ministry challenges become crises. What happens when a pastor needs help but doesn't know who to trust? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, PastorServe founder Jimmy Dodd joins host Jason Daye to explore why pastors and ministry leaders need safe people to turn to before challenges become crises. Ministry can leave leaders carrying things they are unsure how to name or where to take. It may be conflict, feeling stuck, strain in a marriage or family, leadership pressure, or something far more serious. Yet the very nature of pastoral ministry can make it difficult to raise your hand and say, "I need help." Jimmy knows that tension personally. After years as a pastor and church planter, he reached a point when his public ministry looked healthy while his private life was unraveling. Finding a healthy path through that experience helped shape the vision that eventually became PastorServe, which for more than 27 years has walked alongside pastors and ministry leaders through coaching, soul care, consulting, and crisis support. Together they discuss: Why pastors can struggle to know whom they can safely talk toWhat we risk when we keep carrying something because it does not yet feel serious enough to ask for helpHow ordinary ministry strain can quietly become something much harder to navigateWhat may be happening when the front stage no longer matches the backstageWhy we can reveal almost everything while still holding back what we fear mostWhat churches can do to make it easier for pastors to seek help before they reach a crisisIf you're a pastor or ministry leader who feels stuck, overwhelmed, isolated, or simply needs someone outside your immediate ministry context to help you process what you're carrying, you do not have to wait until things fall apart. Sometimes the healthiest next step is simply having someone trustworthy to talk to. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    When Pastors Don't Know Where to Turn - Jimmy Dodd - 231 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

  7. Sep 8

    Is Your Ministry Bearing Fruit? - Patrick Lencioni - 230 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    Leadership and organizational health expert Patrick Lencioni joins Jason Daye to explore how pastors can discern genuine ministry fruit, resist the pressure to chase growth, and build healthy teams rooted in humility, trust, and dependence on God. How do you know if your ministry is actually bearing fruit? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, leadership and organizational health expert Patrick Lencioni joins host Jason Daye to explore how pastors and ministry leaders can think differently about growth, effectiveness, healthy teams, and faithfulness to God. Those of us in ministry want to see lives changed and people drawn closer to Jesus. But that good desire can quietly become a pursuit of growth, scale, numbers, or visible impact. And because those outcomes are often easier to quantify, they can begin shaping how we understand our own effectiveness, leaving us encouraged by apparent progress or discouraged when the numbers don't reflect what we hoped to see. Patrick challenges us to examine what we are actually chasing and to consider the difference between the outcomes we can easily quantify and the genuine fruit God produces through faithful ministry. Patrick is the founder and president of The Table Group and the author of thirteen books that have sold more than ten million copies worldwide, including The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, The Advantage, and The Motive. Drawing from decades of work with leaders and organizations, as well as his own faith, Patrick also shares why the health of the teams carrying out our ministry matters deeply. Together they discuss: Why ministry growth and measurable outcomes are not necessarily the same as genuine fruitHow pastors can evaluate ministry effectiveness without becoming driven by metricsWhat may be hiding beneath our desire to grow and scale a ministryWhy humility and vulnerability are so essential to building healthy ministry teamsThe key action leaders can take to help their teams experience greater vulnerability and trustWhy even the healthiest leaders and teams never outgrow their dependence on GodIf you're a pastor or ministry leader wondering how to faithfully evaluate whether your ministry is making a difference, this conversation offers a thoughtful way forward. Fruit matters. Team health matters. Effectiveness matters. But none of these require us to manufacture outcomes God never asked us to control. We can pursue healthy, effective ministry while remaining faithful to what God has called us to do and dependent on Him for the fruit. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    Is Your Ministry Bearing Fruit? - Patrick Lencioni - 230 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

  8. Sep 1

    Who Are You Becoming While You Lead? - Jen Pollock Michel - 229 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye

    Pastors spend so much time thinking about what God has called them to do. But who are we becoming while we do it? Jen Pollock Michel joins Jason Daye to explore the often-unnoticed forces shaping us in ministry and how we can become more intentional about being formed by God. Who are you becoming while you lead? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, award-winning author Jen Pollock Michel joins host Jason Daye to explore how pastors and ministry leaders are being spiritually formed, often without even realizing it. Those of us in ministry spend enormous amounts of energy thinking about what God has called us to do. We lead, disciple, preach, care for people, and respond to the seemingly endless demands of ministry. But in the midst of all that activity, how much attention are we giving to who we are becoming? Jen is a sought-after speaker whose writing has appeared in Christianity Today, The Dispatch, and The Christian Century. She also leads retreats and workshops focused on developing a Rule of Life, and her latest book, *A Rule for the Rest of Us*, explores how we can live more intentionally as we seek to be formed by God. Jen and Jason explore the forces quietly shaping our lives, why spiritual formation can feel frustratingly slow, and how we can resist simply drifting through ministry and life. Together they discuss: Why ministry leaders can become more focused on what we're doing for God than how we're being formed by GodWhy productivity often feels more satisfying than the slow work of spiritual formationHow rest can become an expression of trust in God rather than simply time away from workHow individualism, self-protection, and our desire for comfort can quietly shape our lives and churchesWhy our phones can make us more solitary in community and less capable of genuine solitudeHow a Rule of Life can help us resist drift and live more intentionally with JesusIf you're a pastor or ministry leader who spends much of your life thinking about the people you're leading and the work God has entrusted to you, this conversation offers an important invitation to consider your own formation. Faithful ministry isn't only about what God is accomplishing through us. It also means paying attention to who God is patiently forming us to become. Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders. Love well, live well, & lead well Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram ...

    Who Are You Becoming While You Lead? - Jen Pollock Michel - 229 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye
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As pastors, how can we best embrace healthy, well-balanced leadership for our life and ministry? Join PastorServe executive, Jason Daye, every week as he invites insightful church leaders into a conversation to explore this very question. Jason knows, firsthand, the challenges of being a pastor and the importance of developing a sustainable rhythm for life and ministry. Each episode helps equip pastors, just like you, with a faithful balance across both your more public FrontStage, and your more personal BackStage, so you can thrive in all areas of life. But FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership podcast, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free downloadable toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed. We are grateful for the opportunity to play a part in your ongoing ministry, encouraging you to serve and live in healthy and sustainable ways. So join us as, together, we learn to love well, live well, and lead well. Learn more and download the free weekly toolkit at PastorServe.org/network

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