Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

Dr. Brenna Hicks
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Your source for centered and focused Play Therapy coaching. A "Master-Class" in Play Therapy. Breaking down the barriers to high-quality Child-Centered Play Therapy (CCPT) education. No paywalls, no ads, no fluff... all content — just expert, accessible training for every play therapist, free of charge.

  1. 9H AGO

    378 | Stop Rescuing Children in the Playroom

    In this episode, I address something I see far too often in child-centered play therapy: therapists struggling to let children struggle. If it is painful for you to watch a child wrestle with frustration, anger, failure, or confusion in the playroom, we need to examine that. Returning responsibility is not a technical skill we check off a list — it is a philosophical commitment. When we subtly rescue, hint, guide, or ease a child's struggle, we undermine the very growth CCPT is designed to produce. I revisit the butterfly-and-cocoon metaphor from the CPRT curriculum to illustrate why struggle is not harmful — it is strengthening. The resistance, frustration, and emotional intensity children experience in the playroom are the very processes that build regulation, grit, competence, and self-trust. Our role is not to fix, save, or soothe away difficulty. Our role is to stay grounded, neutral, and expectant — trusting that what the child is working through is exactly what they need. If we are internally distressed by their struggle, that is our work to do. Fidelity to the model requires that we celebrate the struggle, not relieve it. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

    15 min

  2. 4D AGO

    377 | The Therapist Trust Triad & Parent Partnership Pathway: Frameworks for Parent Engagement and Client Retention

    In this episode, I recap the second day of Field of Dreams and focus specifically on what I believe is one of the most crucial — and often overlooked — aspects of our work: engaging parents. We know CCPT works. We know the research supports it. But none of that matters if families drop out before the process has time to unfold. Attrition rates in CCPT are high, and most parents leave before the seventh session. That reality forces us to look inward. If parents are anxious, pushy, resistant, or distant, that is not simply a "difficult parent" problem — it's often a breakdown in how we are building trust. I walk through two core frameworks: the Therapist Trust Triad and the Parent Partnership Pathway. The Trust Triad challenges us to evaluate ourselves in three domains — internal regulation, external clarity, and relational positioning — and to identify where our own breakdown may be occurring. The Parent Partnership Pathway reminds us that understanding and buy-in develop slowly over time. Parents in crisis cannot absorb everything about CCPT all at once. Engagement must be intentional, paced, and strategic. It's not about talking more or explaining more — it's about building trust in a way that allows families to stay long enough for the model to work. The Field of Dreams training is now available on demand. You can get more information at playtherapynow.com. If you've ever wondered where you truly are developmentally in the model — and what it would take to move toward genuine mastery — this framework gives you the path. When we build depth before height, the entire field changes. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

    17 min

  3. FEB 24

    376 | Q&A Lightning Round #9: Six Questions from Four Listeners Answered

    In this lightning round episode, I tackle four listener questions that each highlight common pressure points in CCPT practice. First, I address a question about children who consistently want the lights turned off in session — particularly in the context of suspected trauma. I walk through the most common meanings behind darkness in play (power and control, fear, trauma associations, or simple symbolic necessity), and I explain how to honor the child's need while maintaining safety through clear "if you choose" limits. Next, I respond to questions about dollhouse setup, competition between school-based clients, and aggressive toys. I clarify why the playroom must always reset to a blank slate, why we never concede to demands to pre-stage materials, and how to handle competitiveness when children compare sessions. I also provide practical guidance on toy guns and shooters — what is appropriate, what should be avoided, and why clearly "toy-like" features matter in a CCPT playroom. Finally, I address two complex advocacy situations: when a pediatrician advises against CCPT during a high-conflict divorce, and when a severely traumatized child appears unable to engage in play therapy at all. In both cases, I emphasize calm, confident advocacy, collaboration over confrontation, and unwavering trust in the model. CCPT is not harmful when a child resists, dysregulates, or refuses to play — those behaviors often signal profound need. Our role is not to force progress, but to remain steady, patient, and faithful to the process. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

    45 min

  4. FEB 20

    375 | Why Most CCPT Therapists Crumble Under Pressure (And What To Do About It!)

    In this episode, I walk you through the Summit Framework — the developmental roadmap for mastery in child-centered play therapy that I presented at the Field of Dreams training. I believe one of the greatest challenges in our field is that we've never clearly defined how a therapist progresses toward true mastery. We learn the skills. We memorize the principles. But we're rarely shown how to stabilize under pressure and refine our foundation before moving higher. And when we skip that step, we crumble. Mastery in CCPT is not about advancing quickly into insight-level work. It's about disciplined refinement of the fundamentals. If reflective responding breaks down when content is uncomfortable, if limit-setting collapses under chaos, if steadiness disappears when pressure rises — that's where the work is. Just like elite athletes still hit off a tee and master musicians still practice scales, we must return to basics in order to strengthen the tiers beneath us. In this episode, I outline the four levels of the Summit Framework and explain how video-based self-review becomes the pathway to real growth. The Field of Dreams training is now available on demand.  You can get more information at playtherapynow.com. If you've ever wondered where you truly are developmentally in the model — and what it would take to move toward genuine mastery — this framework gives you the path. When we build depth before height, the entire field changes. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

    21 min

  5. FEB 18

    374 | What to Do When Children Want to Save What They Built - A CCPT Q&A

    In this Q&A episode, I respond to a question from a school-based, mobile play therapist navigating what to do when children want to preserve, hide, or protect things they build in session. I unpack how this dynamic shifts when you are not in a static playroom and instead are setting up and tearing down each week. I explain how setting clear expectations from the very beginning protects the therapeutic relationship and prevents children from feeling betrayed when items are moved, found, or reset. I also walk through the clinical judgment involved in deciding when something can reasonably be preserved and when it must be dismantled for the sake of other children's access. More importantly, I discuss how moments of disappointment, frustration, or perceived loss—when they arise organically—can be therapeutically meaningful. These are not agenda-driven opportunities we create, but natural experiences children sometimes need in order to build frustration tolerance, regulation, and emotional flexibility. Finally, I share practical considerations about Legos and why many CCPT playrooms choose alternative building materials. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

    12 min

  6. FEB 12

    373 | Perfectionism, People-Pleasing, and Fear of Vulnerability

    In this episode, I respond to a question about a nine-year-old who presents as mature, responsible, and "put together," yet shows strong perfectionistic and people-pleasing tendencies in session. I unpack what is often happening beneath that polished exterior — faking good, fear of judgment, low self-esteem, and a deep resistance to vulnerability. When a child thrives in collaborative activities but withdraws during independent play, that often signals discomfort with ownership, mistakes, and being fully seen. I also address what it means when a child consistently rejects reflected feelings. In many cases, it's not that the reflection is wrong — it's that naming the emotion makes it real. For children who lack emotional vocabulary or have learned to suppress their internal experience, acknowledging feelings can feel threatening. I discuss how small enlargements, gentle juxtaposition, and patient adherence to the model help build self-trust, identity, and emotional awareness over time. Ultimately, this episode is a reminder to trust the process, recognize incongruence for what it is, and allow perfectionistic children the safety they need to gradually let their guard down. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

    10 min

  7. FEB 10

    372 | Why This Podcast Is Unapologetically Child-Centered: The Purpose of the Play Therapy Podcast

    In this episode, I pause and recenter on the why behind this podcast and the work I'm committed to in the play therapy field. With a recent surge of new listeners, I felt it was important to clearly articulate what this space represents and why Child-Centered Play Therapy matters now more than ever. I reflect on the origins of play therapy, the shift toward integrative and eclectic approaches, and my growing concern that children are becoming participants in an unproven experiment rather than recipients of a model we know works. I share why I believe full adherence to a single, empirically supported model—particularly CCPT—is not only clinically effective, but ethically necessary. When therapists are asked to integrate everything, they often feel confused, burned out, and disconnected from their work. In contrast, clinicians who go all-in on CCPT describe clarity, confidence, and transformational outcomes for children and families. This episode is both a reaffirmation of the purpose of this podcast and an invitation to reflect on your own theoretical identity, fidelity to a model, and commitment to truly seeing and honoring children. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

    19 min

  8. FEB 5

    371 | OCD Behaviors in Children: What We're Really Treating in CCPT

    In this episode, I address a topic I've been getting more and more questions about: children who present with obsessive or compulsive behaviors that mirror OCD. I explain why I feel OCD is often not an appropriate childhood diagnosis and why these behaviors are best understood as manifestations of unmanageable anxiety combined with perfectionism and an intense need for control. When parents come in focused on eliminating specific behaviors, I walk through why that approach misses the heart of the issue and risks placing an agenda on the child that undermines the therapeutic process. I outline how child-centered play therapy is uniquely suited to this presentation by addressing the underlying anxiety rather than the behaviors themselves. I discuss what these children often look like in the playroom, including rigid, imperative-driven thinking, and how elevating reflective responding—especially feelings—and gently contrasting wants versus reality helps children loosen their grip on control over time. The goal is never to "fix" the rituals, but to relieve the child of the burden of believing they must keep the world from falling apart. When anxiety decreases and emotional vocabulary grows, the behaviors no longer need to exist. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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