Talking Billions with Bogumil Baranowski

Bogumil Baranowski

EVERY MONDAY A NEW EPISODE. I READ ALL MY EMAILS - contact form on my website - www.bogumilbaranowski.com. TELL ME YOUR STORY. I’m Bogumil Baranowski, an author, a TEDx speaker, an investor, and an investment advisor to families and individuals. Intimate conversations about money, wealth, and living a rich and fulfilling life. We talk about big ideas, big inspirations, big topics. We take on the hardest subject of all – money: how to make it, save it, keep it, but our conversations lead us to an even bigger question — what it means to live a rich life beyond money. NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE.

  1. Jack Schwager & George Coyle: The Edge Moves. So Must You. Zero Evidence, Total Belief. How the Youngest Market Wizards Found Edge Where No One Was Looking

    5d ago

    Jack Schwager & George Coyle: The Edge Moves. So Must You. Zero Evidence, Total Belief. How the Youngest Market Wizards Found Edge Where No One Was Looking

    Jack Schwager is the legendary author of the Market Wizards series and one of the most influential figures in trading literature, whose decades of interviewing elite traders have made him the definitive chronicler of exceptional market performance; George Coyle is a hedge fund manager and deep-dive trading historian whose years of original research into the patterns of great traders catalyzed their co-authored Market Wizards: The Next Generation. Episode Sponsor: Fiscal AI is a modern data terminal that gives investors instant access to twenty years of financials, earnings transcripts, and extensive segment and KPI data—use my link for a two-week free trial plus 15% off: https://fiscal.ai/talkingbillions/3:00 — Bogumil shares personal origin story: as a Polish grad student in Paris, Jack's books gave him the courage to manage money. Jack jokes: "Not the first one." 5:15 — George on his obsession: years of writing deep-dive papers on Soros, Marcus, Druckenmiller — getting inside feedback that he "hit the nail on the head." 7:30 — Jack's biggest surprise from the first Market Wizards: how many enormously successful traders had multiple initial failures before breakthrough. 9:10 — George on the youngest cohort: small-cap shorting is "the last rock you'd flip over" — yet that's precisely why these traders found edge where no one looked. 11:00 — Jack on edge decay: trend following was transformative in the 60s–80s but got crowded; today, all edges evolve, and no edge is permanent. 14:20 — Advantage of starting young: smaller capital means smaller losses. Simon Russo (pseudonym) and Frohlich both had failures early — with little money — then scaled correctly. 30:33 — Jack: "A good trade is not necessarily a winning trade. A bad trade is not necessarily a losing trade." The process defines quality, not the outcome. 33:00 — Position sizing as the great differentiator: Gudecker sizes A+ trades 5–10x larger; Marcus did the same. Ed Thorpe proved even a losing game can win with proper sizing. 39:04 — Are trading skills learnable? Jack: Yes — Kulamaji went from $5,000 to $100M learning from others, but molded it entirely into his own methodology. 42:09 — George's five questions for aspiring Market Wizards: clear goals, process that matches temperament, overcoming detrimental traits, belief in self, persisting despite failure. 50:40 — Jack dismantles volatility as risk proxy: the drunk under the lamppost analogy — measuring what's easy vs. what's true. 57:49 — AI debate: Jack argues markets are a complex adaptive system — unlike physics, the rules change constantly, which keeps the door open for human traders. 1:03:52 — Jack's closing: readers of any Wizards book will get at least one or two things meaningfully beneficial if they're open-minded. This book adds a rare theme — wizards who stopped to ask: Is this what I really want to do with my life? Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

    1h 18m
  2. 100 Year Thinkers, Ep. 8: The Problem with Modern Portfolio Theory | Robert Hagstrom on How Investing Lost Its Way

    Jun 6 ·  Bonus

    100 Year Thinkers, Ep. 8: The Problem with Modern Portfolio Theory | Robert Hagstrom on How Investing Lost Its Way

    In this episode of The 100 Year Thinkers, Robert Hagstrom explains why modern portfolio theory pulled investors away from business analysis and toward portfolio math. We discuss Markowitz, beta, efficient markets, Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, business-driven investing, owner earnings, benchmarks, and why thinking like a business owner changes how investors understand risk. The Warren Buffett Portfolio, 25th Anniversary Editionhttps://amzn.to/4uz8sZ3 Topics covered: Why Hagstrom thinks modern portfolio theory changed investing’s objective The difference between volatility, variance and real investment risk How Benjamin Graham and John Burr Williams framed risk around intrinsic value Why beta became the dominant shorthand for risk How the 1973-74 bear market helped institutionalize modern portfolio theory Why Berkshire preserved the business owner’s lens The “cathedral and casino” distinction between owning businesses and trading stocks Owner earnings, return on invested capital and cost of capital Why business owners often make better long-term equity investors Look-through earnings and building a “mini Berkshire” The difference between making money and beating a benchmark How benchmarks can distort investor behavior Why knowing yourself and your clients matters in portfolio construction Matt Zeigler and I had the privilege of hosting Robert Hagstrom for a special 100-Year Thinkers Edition of the Excess Returns Podcast. Available now on Excess Returns Podcast and Talking Billions. 🎧 I’m excited to share this episode with you—it’s reposted here with permission and blessing from the Excess Returns team. Don’t miss it! And follow their work, links below. https://www.excessreturns.co/ https://cultishcreative.com/ Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed. Information expressed does not take into account your specific situation or objectives, and is not intended as recommendations appropriate for any individual. Listeners are encouraged to seek advice from a qualified tax, legal, or investment adviser to determine whether any information presented may be suitable for their specific situation. Past performance is not indicative of future performance.

    1h 6m
  3. Eric Pachman: The Data America Doesn't Want You to See, From Hypothermia to Purpose — Healthcare, Jobs, Burnout, and Finding Work Worth Doing

    Jun 1

    Eric Pachman: The Data America Doesn't Want You to See, From Hypothermia to Purpose — Healthcare, Jobs, Burnout, and Finding Work Worth Doing

    Eric Pachman is a chemical engineer-turned-data storyteller who exposed hundreds of millions in drug pricing overcharges through his nonprofit 46 Brooklyn Research, and now uses data visualization to reveal hidden truths about jobs, healthcare, and inequality as founder of Data for the People. Find Eric here: https://www.data4thepeople.com/signup Episode Sponsor: Fiscal AI is a modern data terminal that gives investors instant access to twenty years of financials, earnings transcripts, and extensive segment and KPI data—use my link for a two-week free trial plus 15% off: https://fiscal.ai/talkingbillions/3:00 – Eric opens with a near-death pacing experience at the Moab 240-mile race — hypothermia, lost in the mountains, 80 miles covered over two days — and how surviving it cracked open the question: what am I doing with my life? 7:00 – Career journey: chemical engineer → ExxonMobil → Harvard Business School → Morgan Stanley (oil & commodities) → buy-side family office → CSX Railroad → pharmacy/drug pricing → 46 Brooklyn Research. 10:05 – Drug pricing exposed: middlemen taking ~33% of every transaction. "Imagine if the stock price was $1,000 and the commission was $333." 14:03 – His mother's death from pancreatic cancer. Her mental anguish — the inability to fill an internal void with things and experiences — became "the greatest teaching I've ever had in my life." 22:00 – Harvard Business School as a crucible: the introverted engineer forced to speak without certainty, eventually becoming a speaker at thousand-person maritime conferences. 28:00 – The jobs data reality: outside healthcare, the U.S. economy has been losing jobs. Healthcare was 200% of all job growth in the prior year. 33:20 – Exclusive reveal: 3 states (CA, PA, NY) account for 60% of the most Medicaid-sensitive elder care jobs — and 2027 cuts will hit them hardest. 40:41 – AI and jobs: "Net contraction through attrition is the same thing as firing people to me." 48:31 – "Maximum efficiency and productivity ends up killing what makes us human, which is creativity." 58:55 – Burnout: "If you're only doing something for yourself, you will reach a point of burnout." 1:08:43 – On success: "What can I do to impact the broader community... and lose all attachment to the outcome?" Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

    1h 18m
  4. Unfiltered Coffee Q&A, May 2026: Live Now, Invest Wisely: Thoughts on Money, Freedom, and Staying in Motion

    May 25 ·  Bonus

    Unfiltered Coffee Q&A, May 2026: Live Now, Invest Wisely: Thoughts on Money, Freedom, and Staying in Motion

    Find me on Substack: https://bogumilbaranowski.substack.com/ In this monthly Unfiltered Coffee check-in, I start with a lesson I keep learning from wealthy people — live your life now, don’t wait. I share a personal story about buying and riding a red Ducati, and the unexpected memories it created. Sometimes the best investments we make aren’t financial at all. I answer listener questions, recommend where new listeners can start, and highlight standout recent and upcoming episodes — conversations on historical financial advice, intangible assets, surrounding yourself with good people, microcaps, Berkshire and Buffett, family advising, trading psychology, and execution. I talk about how I research and track many stocks, and why research itself is a form of motion. Small adjustments beat freezing every time. I share my productivity system — notes, scheduling, a weekly “improve or eliminate” review, and the power of an “undo button” when things don’t work. We get into outdated money beliefs and why so many people don’t feel wealthy even when they are. Money as freedom. Money as peace of mind. The difference between waiting for permission and finding the courage to act. I reflect on what I’m learning from studying Li Lu, on staying patient in markets that feel expensive, and on why advisory fees are really an investment in trust and service. We close with thoughts on outsourcing versus doing it yourself, a “forgotten money” exercise that might surprise you, and what it means to keep and pass on wealth with intention. Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

    51 min
  5. Michael Nicoletti: Sailboats & Telltales, Roads & Motorcycles, Value & Quality, Good People & Generous Mentors From Jacuzzi Family Legacy, Grandfather's Advice to Playing the Long Game of Compounding

    May 18

    Michael Nicoletti: Sailboats & Telltales, Roads & Motorcycles, Value & Quality, Good People & Generous Mentors From Jacuzzi Family Legacy, Grandfather's Advice to Playing the Long Game of Compounding

    Mike Nicoletti is the founder and general partner of Top Mark Capital, a concentrated long-term investor who built his firm from a $110,000 seed during business school, drawing on experiences spanning tech consulting in Stockholm, competitive offshore sailing, and startup ventures. Episode Sponsor: Fiscal AI is a modern data terminal that gives investors instant access to twenty years of financials, earnings transcripts, and extensive segment and KPI data—use my link for a two-week free trial plus 15% off: https://fiscal.ai/talkingbillions/ 5:00 — Mike's family origin story: born near Toronto, his grandmother was a Jacuzzi — the family behind the iconic brand. From airplane propellers in WWI to water pumps to hydrotherapy, entrepreneurship ran deep. 12:00 — The Jacuzzi family sold the business in 1979 at a bad time; infighting over share distribution led to the undoing. Mike's father passed away suddenly when Mike was seven, reshaping his childhood. 16:00 — Stepfather John introduced frugality and discipline. The $1/week allowance ledger, $5 lawn mowing, and a grandfather's advice — "Sounds like you need some new customers" — sparked Mike's entrepreneurial instincts. 20:00 — Sailing discovery: learned on a chalkboard, walked onto a college team with zero experience, eventually pursued competitive offshore racing. Sailing opened doors and became a lifelong thread. 27:00 — In New York prepping a sailboat, Mike stumbles into Brian H. Lawrence's investing circle at Oak Cliff Sailing. Lawrence seeds Top Mark Capital with $100,000; Mike had $10,000. 33:00 — Joel Greenblatt sighting at the Lawrence office. Brian Lawrence Jr. guides Mike through fund setup. "I just did it" — filed Delaware entities, opened Interactive Brokers, built it from scratch. 40:00 — Pirsig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: static vs. dynamic quality as a framework for value investing. Value investors hunt for dynamic quality; dogma is dynamic quality that became static. 45:00 — Top Mark's asymmetry thesis: buy quality businesses with unrecognized option value exposed to long-arc trends. Venture capital's trend-identification applied to public equities. 53:00 — "Software is eating the world" evolution: from cloud to AI/ML to the current harness phase — Claude Code, Cursor, Perplexity. Enormous infrastructure demand ahead. 59:00 — Healthcare disruption: genomic sequencing costs dropped from $1 billion to ~$200. Diagnostics + AI will reshape the care model before patients even see a doctor. 1:07:00 — Partnerships over transactions. Buffett told Brian Lawrence only 1-2% of world capital is invested this way — and Berkshire is half of it. 1:10:00 — Success defined: Mom's family had love without wealth, Dad's family had wealth with problems, the Lawrences had both. "Surround yourself with good people." 1:12:00 — Restoring what was lost: the Jacuzzi fortune, Polish communism — generational wealth as inspiration, not entitlement. Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

    1h 15m
  6. Kai Wu: Intangible Assets: The Dark Matter of Finance — The Invisible Forces Driving Company Value Why the Balance Sheet Misses Most of What Makes a Business Worth Owning

    May 11

    Kai Wu: Intangible Assets: The Dark Matter of Finance — The Invisible Forces Driving Company Value Why the Balance Sheet Misses Most of What Makes a Business Worth Owning

    Kai Wu is the founder and chief investment officer of Sparkline Capital, a former GMO and Harvard-trained investor whose pioneering research on intangible assets — intellectual property, brand equity, human capital, and network effects — is redefining how value investors measure what companies are truly worth. Episode Sponsor: Fiscal AI is a modern data terminal that gives investors instant access to twenty years of financials, earnings transcripts, and extensive segment and KPI data—use my link for a two-week free trial plus 15% off (25% off Thursday, May 7th to Thursday, May 14th): ⁠https://fiscal.ai/talkingbillions/⁠3:00 – Kai's upbringing: father a doctor, mother an artist; studied economics at Harvard with a liberal arts mindset across disciplines5:00 – Walking into GMO during the financial crisis; mentorship under Jeremy Grantham; traveling to Sydney, London, Berkeley to expand the firm's forecasting7:00 – Founding Sparkline Capital: "I'm a builder" — intellectual independence to pursue research others wouldn't, including early work on large language models in 201910:00 – The balance sheet as an incomplete map: why traditional metrics miss the majority of corporate value in today's economy11:00 – "Black sheep" identity: too growth-oriented for value circles, too value-sensitive for growth investors; bridging both camps14:00 – The four pillars of intangible value: intellectual property, brand equity, human capital, network effects — "the dark matter of finance"18:00 – Why capitalizing R&D spending doesn't solve the problem; moving from historical cost to measuring the actual asset created using alternative data and AI22:00 – Two economies: tangible ground-level operations vs. intangible businesses that scale globally with minimal physical footprint27:00 – Reframing Buffett: only 8% of Berkshire investments purchased below book value; three eras from industrial to consumer (Coca-Cola) to tech (Apple)34:00 – AI: bullish on the technology, cautious on the investment; capital cycle parallels to the dot-com boom and railroad era38:00 – Who wins tech revolutions: not the infrastructure builders but the users — Google, Amazon, Netflix won the internet, not the telecom companies42:00 – AI financial analysts: excels at rote tasks, lacks senior judgment; Claude Code now replacing junior analyst work47:00 – Jobs will transform, not disappear: 60% of today's jobs didn't exist in the 1940s; speed of change matters most54:00 – No single factor wins: "the more factors I can consider, the less blind spots I have"56:00 – Success defined as intellectual freedom, not money or fame Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

    1h 6m
  7. May 7 ·  Bonus

    Playing the Long Game with Bogumil Baranowski: Morgan on Purpose Podcast

    I was honored to join Morgan Ranstrom on his wonderful podcast, Morgan on Purpose. You can find the episode here or on your favorite podcast platform under either Morgan on Purpose or Talking Billions. I highly recommend exploring Morgan’s show—it’s thoughtful, insightful, and well worth a listen. Spotify , Apple , Buzzsprout , YouTube What does it mean to truly play the long game with your money—and your life? In this episode, Morgan sits down with investor, author, and “Talking Billions” host Bogumil Baranowski for a \conversation on investing, identity, and the deeper purpose behind wealth. They explore the idea of an “infinite time horizon” and why the best investors—and families—think far beyond their own lifetimes. From lessons learned during the pandemic while writing Crisis Investing to the role advisors play in moments of uncertainty, Bogumil shares how to stay grounded when the world feels anything but. Along the way, they unpack the mental models that shape how we think about money—like why building wealth might be less like climbing a mountain and more like rolling a snowball. If you’re thinking about your financial future, your family, or how to take a more intentional, long-term approach to wealth, this episode is for you. Thank you for listening! Find all about Morgan Ranstrom here: https://morganranstrom.com/ Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

    30 min
  8. Joseph S. Moore: What 300 Years of Money Advice Taught One Historian About Getting Rich: Capitalism is not a Scam, the American Dream is Alive, Marriage is a Superpower, Hope is an Asset

    May 4

    Joseph S. Moore: What 300 Years of Money Advice Taught One Historian About Getting Rich: Capitalism is not a Scam, the American Dream is Alive, Marriage is a Superpower, Hope is an Asset

    Joseph S. Moore is a historian, author, and investor who spent a decade reading nearly every piece of financial advice published in America over the past 300 years, testing those lessons himself, and distilling them into his HarperCollins book How to Get Rich in American History, selected by Malcolm Gladwell and Adam Grant for their Next Big Idea Club. Episode Sponsor: Fiscal AI is a modern data terminal that gives investors instant access to twenty years of financials, earnings transcripts, and extensive segment and KPI data—use my link for a two-week free trial plus 15% off: https://fiscal.ai/talkingbillions/ 3:00 — Joseph's working-class South Carolina roots: mother born into a home with no flush toilet, father's family led the famous Gastonia mill strike in the 1920s, grew up in a household that voted communist. 5:00 — Bogumil shares his parallel experience growing up in communist Poland and watching the country transform after embracing free markets. 8:00 — The church basement class that saved Joseph from the 2008 crisis: bought a house as a grad student, a Dave Ramsey budgeting class revealed the danger, sold the house one week before the market froze. 11:00 — The American Dream: people have declared it dead since the 1670s. Joseph introduces "Big Woe" — the despair industrial complex of journalists, politicians, and academics incentivized to sell doom. 17:00 — Upward mobility data: in the 1800s, 20-30% moved from bottom to middle class; today, 60% escape the bottom, 10% go all the way to the top. "We have more economic mobility than we've ever had." 23:00 — Dismantling financial shibboleths: compound interest only recently became powerful (people didn't live long enough), stocks didn't reliably beat bonds until after WWII, real estate stayed flat for a century in most cities. 31:00 — Old ideas in new packaging: latte factor advice dates to the 1800s, crypto mirrors 10,000 self-issued currencies before the Civil War ("all self-issued currencies eventually go to zero"), Airbnb reimagines the oldest mortgage payoff strategy. 37:00 — Fast time vs. slow time: most of life is lived in slow time — the daily decisions about career, marriage, savings that determine whether you can seize opportunities when fast time arrives. Story of Norman McGee buying foreclosed homes during the Depression. 42:00 — Women as unsung financial heroes throughout American history. Agnes Taylor, a beat cop's wife, paid off a New York brownstone by renting rooms. "Capitalism is a team sport. Marriage is a superpower." 51:00 — Hope as a financial asset: CFPB studies found a positive attitude plus saving habit outpredicted income and inheritance for financial wellness. 56:00 — FIRE movement as the "crossfit of personal finance" — financially independent people throughout history only thrived when they found meaningful work to do. 1:04:00 — Generational wealth doesn't last: 90% of top 1%'s grandchildren are not wealthy. "Tutors outperform trust funds." Human capital is 30x the value of the stock market. 1:09:00 — Joseph's definition of success: a great marriage, raising good kids, getting good enough at something that people trust you. "The money could go away and I'd have all those other things." Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

    1h 22m

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EVERY MONDAY A NEW EPISODE. I READ ALL MY EMAILS - contact form on my website - www.bogumilbaranowski.com. TELL ME YOUR STORY. I’m Bogumil Baranowski, an author, a TEDx speaker, an investor, and an investment advisor to families and individuals. Intimate conversations about money, wealth, and living a rich and fulfilling life. We talk about big ideas, big inspirations, big topics. We take on the hardest subject of all – money: how to make it, save it, keep it, but our conversations lead us to an even bigger question — what it means to live a rich life beyond money. NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE.

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