Unreal Results for Physical Therapists and Athletic Trainers

Anna Hartman
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The Unreal Results podcast helps physical therapists and certified athletic trainers feel confident and get better outcomes for their clients by teaching about the influence of the viscera organs and the nervous system on human movement, pain, and injury. Explore how a visceral and neural-based lens of view can provide a new perspective to performance-based physical therapy, athletic training, and sports medicine.

  1. The Curious Case of the Missing Armpit w/ Missy Bunch

    2d ago

    The Curious Case of the Missing Armpit w/ Missy Bunch

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I had a chat with my good friend and colleague, Missy Bunch, on an Instagram live to unpack one of my favorite shoulder assessment clues: the armpit.  We explore how scapular upward rotation, serratus anterior function, and glenohumeral hypermobility all influence what you see and feel during shoulder assessment. You’ll hear why many people appear to have full shoulder range of motion while quietly borrowing mobility from the wrong place, how serratus anterior dysfunction can hide in plain sight, and what happens when those compensations are left unchecked for years. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Why a missing armpit can be a sign of poor scapular upward rotationThe relationship between the scapula, serratus anterior, and glenohumeral joint mechanicsHow to assess scapular upward rotation and identify common compensationsA simple exercise I use to retrain scapular mechanics and improve upward rotationThe shoulder rarely works in isolation, and this episode will help you better assess shoulder function while understanding how small changes in scapular mechanics can create significant differences in long-term outcomes. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 16: Why The Shoulder Comes Last Ep. 17: A New Picture Of Shoulder Mechanics Ep. 69: Why Your Shoulder Treatments Might Not Be Enough Ep. 140: Why Acute Shoulder Pain Isn’t Always a Shoulder Problem Ep. 159: Long Thoracic Nerve Palsy: Anatomy, Assessment & Recovery Save 50% on my course - Never Treat The Shoulder First (use code ARMPIT or ARMPITS) Save 50% on my course w/ Missy - The Nerve Workshop (use code ARMPIT or ARMPITS) Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    38 min
  2. Long Thoracic Nerve Palsy: Anatomy, Assessment & Recovery

    May 28

    Long Thoracic Nerve Palsy: Anatomy, Assessment & Recovery

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I share the case of a Navy SEAL candidate with severe scapular winging and progressive serratus anterior paralysis after months of failed treatment. I walk through the anatomy of the long thoracic nerve and serratus anterior in detail, including the entrapment sites, fascial relationships, and neural connections that can completely change how you assess and treat these cases. I also share how integrating neural manipulation, visceral treatment, mobility work, and targeted strengthening helped this athlete regain function far faster than expected. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: The most common entrapment locations for the long thoracic nerve and why they matter clinicallyHow cervical compression, thoracic outlet mechanics, and breathing patterns may contribute to scapular wingingWhy upward rotation mobility is just as important as strengthening in serratus anterior rehabPractical strategies for restoring upward rotation strength, scapular control, and thoracic mobilityThis case is a great example of why treating the body as a whole organism instead of isolating a single muscle or diagnosis can completely change clinical outcomes.  Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 99: Navigating The Complex Case Of Diaphragm Paralysis My Online Course I Mentioned - The Nerve Workshop with Missy Bunch and Anna Hartman My Online Shoulder Course - Never Treat The Shoulder First Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    42 min
  3. How the Liver Impacts Pelvic Floor Function

    May 21

    How the Liver Impacts Pelvic Floor Function

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I unpack the anatomical and pressure-based relationships between the liver, abdominal cavity, and pelvic floor through both a clinical case study and a deep dive into visceral anatomy. I share how restoring liver mobility changed a client’s stress incontinence, core function, breathing mechanics, and lower body mobility.  You’ll also hear why understanding pressure gradients and visceral relationships can completely shift the way you assess and treat the body. In This Episode, You’ll Hear: How pelvic floor dysfunction is influenced by ribcage position, breathing mechanics, and abdominal pressureA detailed breakdown of the liver’s anatomical connections to the diaphragm, abdominal wall, bladder, and pelvic floorHow visceral dysfunction can alter hip rotation, core control, and breathing mechanicsPractical ways to assess objective orthopedic changes when treating visceral or pelvic complaintsIf you’ve been treating pelvic floor dysfunction, core instability, or movement limitations without considering the visceral system, this episode may completely change the way you think about human movement and function. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 58: The Whole Organism Approach w/ Nicole Cozean Ep. 150: A Clinical Case Study in Sacral Pain & Index of Suspicion Fit + Fueled Life Podcast: Ep. 334 - What Your Injuries Are Trying to Tell You After 40 (& Why You’re Not Healing) Pelvic PT Rising Podcast - Beyond The Obvious: An Interview with Anna Hartman Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    1 hr
  4. The Visceral Connection to Musculoskeletal Pain

    Apr 30

    The Visceral Connection to Musculoskeletal Pain

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I unpack the relationship between the viscera, the nervous system, and the musculoskeletal system and why understanding this connection can completely change your clinical outcomes. I walk you through the physiology behind visceral referred pain, how the spine and organs influence each other, and how to start integrating this into your assessment and treatment approach without overcomplicating your process. In This Episode, You’ll Hear: How visceral organs create referred pain through shared neural pathwaysThe difference between visceral referral and viscerosomatic reflexesWhy common pain presentations (low back, shoulder, pelvic) may not be musculoskeletal in originHow to use spinal levels and anatomy to guide more effective treatmentThis episode is about expanding your lens so you’re not just treating symptoms, but understanding what’s driving them. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Get my Visceral Referrals Cheat Sheet HERE Ep. 125: You're Already Treating The Viscera... You Just Don't Know It Book I Mentioned - From Manual Evaluation to General Diagnosis: Assessing Patient Information before Hands-On Treatment by Alain Croibier* Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses *This link is an Amazon affiliate link, meaning I earn a commission from any qualifying purchases that you make ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    45 min
  5. When Your Clinical Exam Comes Up Empty

    Apr 16

    When Your Clinical Exam Comes Up Empty

    Have you ever finished an exam on a client and had no way to recreate their symptoms? In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I walk you through a real clinical case that challenged the traditional biomechanical lens.  On paper, this athlete had a clear diagnosis and had already done all the “right” things (mobility work, strengthening, injections) yet the issue kept coming back. I walk you through my full assessment process, from orthopedic test, the LTAP®, and general listening, and why the body ultimately led me somewhere completely unexpected. In This Episode, You’ll Hear: Why a “normal” biomechanical exam doesn’t always mean nothing is wrongHow to think beyond local tissue when symptoms don’t match the presentationWhat central nervous system protection patterns can look like clinicallyHow sequencing your treatment changes outcomesIf you had this client and didn’t have other assessments such as the LTAP®, I’d love for you to send me a message letting me know what you would have done! Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Join the Online Spring LTAP® Level 1 2026 cohort Ep. 149: Rethinking the Popliteus in Knee Rehab Ep. 150: A Clinical Case Study in Sacral Pain & Index of Suspicion Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    40 min
  6. Practical Ways To Support The Viscera & Nervous System

    Apr 9

    Practical Ways To Support The Viscera & Nervous System

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I zoom out and explore how movement, manual therapy, physiology, nutrition, and daily inputs all influence visceral health and nervous system function. I break down the concept of container vs. contents, why movement is never “just mechanical,” and how frequency of inputs often matters more than intensity. In This Episode, You’ll Hear: The “container vs. contents” framework for understanding treatmentWhy movement is one of the most powerful (and overlooked) visceral toolsHow small, frequent inputs reshape nervous system resilienceHow assessment guides precision without overcomplicating careThis is a simple, practical way to start integrating a more whole organism approach into your daily work and treatments. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 12: Rest Posture vs. Stretching vs. Mobility Ep. 40: Healing and Wellness: Remade Ep. 91: Diaphragm Details That Unlock Thoracic Mobility Ep. 122: Spinal Mobility Is The Most Underrated Tool In Your Practice Ep. 125: You're Already Treating The Viscera... You Just Don't Know It Blog Post: Rest Postures Exercise Video: Scalp Massage Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    20 min

  7. Apr 2 ·  Bonus

    Delivering Results That Stand Out- Interview with LTAP® Level 1 Alumnus, Nicole Bulow

    In this bonus episode of the Unreal Results Podcast, Anna sits down with LTAP® Level 1 alum Nicole Bulow, a physical therapist specializing in sports medicine and pelvic health. Nicole shares her journey integrating LTAP® into her clinical practice and how it became the catalyst not only for improving patient outcomes but also for successfully rebuilding her business from scratch after relocating to a new town simply by delivering results that stand out in an industry often accustomed to slow or inconsistent progress. With 15+ years of experience and a strong background in manual therapy and pelvic health, Nicole was already a skilled clinician. But like many, she found herself hitting plateaus, repeating the same treatments, chasing symptoms, and knowing there was something deeper she was missing. This conversation explores what happens when you finally have a system that shows you where to start. They dive into:  Why repeated treatments (like ankle mobility or soft tissue work) often signal you’re missing the root cause  How LTAP® improves efficiency and helps clinicians get results faster  The connection between protective patterns, the nervous system, and chronic dysfunction  Integrating pelvic health, sports medicine, and whole-organism assessment  Why patients are willing to travel and pay when results actually stick  Using LTAP® to identify when something deeper or medical is going on  How better outcomes directly translate to business growth and sustainability Resources & Links Learn more about LTAP® Level 1 (Spring Cohort) Connect with Nicole Bulow  ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    36 min

  8. Apr 2 ·  Bonus

    From “figuring it out” to letting the body lead- LTAP® Level 1 alumni interview with Jillian Egan

    You don’t need more tools. You need a way to know when and where to use them. And when you finally stop trying to figure it all out… That’s when everything starts to click. In this bonus episode of the Unreal Results Podcast, Anna sits down with LTAP® Level 1 alum Jillian Egan, a massage therapist, Pilates instructor, and movement practitioner based in Los Angeles. Jillian shares her evolution from traditional massage therapy into a more integrated, whole-organism approach, and how discovering LTAP® completely shifted how she assesses, treats, and understands the human body. With a background in dance, movement, and manual therapy, she had already built a strong foundation but was still missing a clear system to guide where to start treatment and why. This conversation explores what happens when you stop chasing symptoms and start listening to the body. They dive into: - Why having more techniques isn’t the problem and what actually is - How LTAP® gave Jillian a clear, repeatable assessment to guide treatment - Integrating the nervous system and viscera into manual therapy and movement work - The shift from “figuring it out” to letting the body lead -Why results should change quickly—and what it means when they don’t - Using clinical patterns to identify when something deeper (or medical) is going on - How this work improves both patient outcomes and practitioner sustainability Jillian also shares powerful clinical examples—from resolving shoulder pain through visceral work to identifying cases that required medical referral—highlighting how this approach leads to both better results and better decision-making. Beyond technique, this episode speaks to something deeper: the personal shift that happens when you let go of needing to be the expert and instead become someone who truly listens. Resources & Links Learn more about LTAP® Level 1 (Spring Cohort) Connect with Jillian Egan  ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    36 min
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The Unreal Results podcast helps physical therapists and certified athletic trainers feel confident and get better outcomes for their clients by teaching about the influence of the viscera organs and the nervous system on human movement, pain, and injury. Explore how a visceral and neural-based lens of view can provide a new perspective to performance-based physical therapy, athletic training, and sports medicine.

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