Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast

Food Safety Specialists: Matthew Regusci and Francine L Shaw

Tune in every Tuesday for a brand new episode of Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast. Join Francine L. Shaw, the savvy CEO of Savvy Food Safety, and Matthew Regusci, compliance connoisseur and founder of Fostering Compliance, as they serve up the latest in food safety with a side of laughter. Explore the ins and outs of food systems, responsible food practices, and food safety regulations. Stay informed about food safety awareness and the not-so-occasional food recall. Delve deep into the complexities of the food supply chain with our dynamic duo, who blend expert insights with a pinch of food safety humor. Whether you're knee-deep in the food safety industry or just passionate about what's on your plate, this podcast promises a fresh take on staying safe while eating well. Expect candid conversations, personal anecdotes, and occasional guest appearances that spice up the discussion. Shaw and Regusci bring their combined decades of experience to the table, making each episode as informative as it is entertaining. From industry trends to must-know food safety news and regulations, they've got your back (and your lunch). In essence, Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast is not just about imparting information; it's about fostering a culture of food safety. By shedding light on the intricacies of the food supply chain and the latest food safety news, it aims to promote awareness and encourage responsible food practices among consumers and industry professionals alike. When it comes to food safety, knowledge is power, and a good laugh is the best seasoning. At the heart of every episode is one golden rule: Don't Eat Poop!

  1. 5d ago

    FDA's New Director of Produce Safety: Can Dr. Donna Garren Make a Change? | Episode 179

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. The FDA's top produce safety post sat empty for over a year, and when it comes to leafy greens, berries, and bagged salads, that's not a small gap. Now Dr. Donna Garren has the job, arriving with a three-decade resume that reads like a tour of nearly every food trade association in the country.  In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine ask the question nobody else seems to be asking: does the person in the seat actually change outcomes? This episode is a deep dive into Garren's career, what the Office of Produce Safety actually does, and whether decades of political skill can move an agency stuck in reactionary mode. Spoiler alert: She's not bringing a magic wand. She's bringing decades of relationship capital, and that might be exactly what this role needs. In this episode: 00:00:00 Meet Dr. Donna Garren, FDA's New Director of Produce Safety 00:04:25 Garren's Food Science Roots 00:07:24 Two Decades of Lobbying 00:17:55 What the Office of Produce Safety Actually Does 00:22:57 Garren vs. Her Predecessor: Political Skill vs. Scientific Pedigree 00:28:33 Stakeholder Engagement and Training ( Industry Outreach and Consensus-Building)  00:34:47 Translating Science for Farmers Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Noteworthy quotes from this episode “I think the FDA has been in reactionary mode as opposed to preventative mode.” – Matt Regusci “You can't keep doing what we've been doing. You've gotta do something different.” – Francine L Shaw We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms _______

    FDA's New Director of Produce Safety: Can Dr. Donna Garren Make a Change? | Episode 179
  2. Aug 4

    Would You Eat It? Food Safety Risks Ranked | Episode 178

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. Fountain soda ice that turns pink overnight. Gas station sushi. A charcuterie board that's been sitting out since noon.  In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine play a rapid-fire game of "Would You Eat It?" testing real-world food safety risks like bacteria growth, mold contamination, and foodborne illness exposure against their own personal judgment calls. From the five-second rule to bulging cans of chicken broth (a classic botulism red flag), the hosts debate food expiration dates, cross-contamination, safe food handling, and where their personal risk tolerance lines actually sit.  Spoiler alert: even two food safety experts have their guilty-pleasure blind spots when it comes to food poisoning prevention (raw cookie dough, anyone?). In this episode: 00:00:00 Would You Eat It? The Five Second Rule 00:04:06 Gas Station Sushi, Rare Burgers and Childhood Habits 00:06:54 Bacteria Contamination in Self-service Ice Machines and Soda Fountains 00:09:21 How Long Is Too Long in the Temperature Danger Zone? 00:10:59 Sell-by Dates, Expiration Dates and Real Life 00:12:54 Cross Contaminaiton Prevention and Salmonella Risk 00:17:03 Moldy Bread and Wild Mushroom Foraging Risks 00:17:56 Sharing Food and Drinks: Saliva Transfer Risk 00:20:09 Bulging Canned Goods and Botulism Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Noteworthy quotes from this episode “Anything that's been in the car overnight, no. Disgusting. Yuck. There's no redeeming value.” – Matt Regusci “They can kill you quickly. You grab the wrong mushroom, you'd be dead very quickly.” – Francine L Shaw We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms _______

    Would You Eat It? Food Safety Risks Ranked | Episode 178
  3. Jul 28

    Cyclospora Outbreak: 7,000 Sick and the Surveillance System That Went Dark | Episode 177

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. Nearly 7,000 people are sick, the CDC's own case count can't keep up with what individual states are finding on their own, and six months ago the agency quietly stopped requiring labs to track Cyclospora at all.  In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine break down how an outbreak this size is unfolding in near-total darkness. This episode covers what Cyclospora actually does to the body, where the current outbreak started, and the funding cuts that gutted the surveillance system meant to catch it.  When you stop counting the sick, the numbers go down, but the problem doesn't. In this episode: 00:00:00 The Educated Food Safety Guess That Turned Out to Be True 00:04:46 A Food Safety Project Three Years in the Making 00:08:04 Tracking the Cyclospora Outbreak 00:12:27 What Is Cyclospora? Symptoms, Transmission, and Sources 00:17:53 1,645 Confirmed Cyclospora Cases and Nearly 7,000 Suspected 00:19:03 Suspected Sources and the Taco Bell Connection 00:23:49 CDC Funding Cuts and the FoodNet Tracking Rollback 00:28:28 How a Systemic Contamination Event Actually Happens 00:35:29 The Supplier is Confirmed — It's Taylor Farms 00:47:02 Taco Bell's Statement and IFPA's Pushback on the Produce Link Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Resources from this episode Have a look at the articles mentioned in this episode: Two Friends Warn About Cyclospora. In the Morning I’ll Carry the Same Message to Puerto Vallarta: We Stopped Counting the Sick and Holding those to AccountCyclospora by State: Three Different Counts — the CDC’s, the State’s, and the Media’sCDC, FDA link Taco Bell lettuce supplier to multistate cyclosporiasis outbreakThe Cyclospora Outbreak Now Has Two Names on It — Taylor Farms and Taco Bell. Both Have Been Here Before and So Have IParasitic Outbreak Linked to Taylor Farms Lettuce Supplied to Taco Bell Noteworthy quotes from this episode “When you have 7,000 potential cases, it is a systemic problem.” – Matt Regusci “Of course the numbers are gonna decline. They're not counting them.” – Francine L Shaw We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms _______

    Cyclospora Outbreak: 7,000 Sick and the Surveillance System That Went Dark | Episode 177
  4. Jul 21

    Food Safety Consortium 2026: Allergens, Traceability & a Story That Silenced a Room with Rick Biros from Food Safety Tech | Episode 176

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. A crowded elevator in St. Louis. A stranger's badge. A conversation that led food safety consortium founder Rick Biros to a mother named Dana and to Kayla, her daughter, who died of E. coli O111 in 2007.  In this third installment of the 2026 Food Safety Consortium preview series on Don’t Eat Poop!, Matt, Francine, and Rick sit with a story that silenced a room of industry veterans, then turn to what's ahead at this year's conference. This episode blends raw human stakes with a practical look at what's coming to Food Safety Consortium, from AI adoption and allergen transparency to the traceability deadline barreling toward the whole industry. Spoiler alert: the best food safety conferences aren't built on data alone — they're built on stories that make the stakes impossible to ignore. In this episode: 00:03:29 The Power of a Food Safety Story 00:06:50 The Elevator Encounter: How Rick Met Dana and Heard Kayla's Story 00:14:30 Food Safety: From a Job to a Career, to a Passion 00:17:02 Business Outcomes From Investing in Food Safety 00:20:59 Allergen Panel featuring Marriott, Universal, Aramark, and Red Lobster 00:22:19 Risk-based Pest Control and the Search For a Produce "Kill Step" 00:23:46 Alpha-gal: The Tick Bite That Can Mean No More Red Meat 00:29:30 AI at the Food Safety Consortium Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Resources from this episode Connect with Rick Take a look at Kayla’s story on Food Safety Tech: Food Safety Fate Use code POOP for 25% off the 2026 Food Safety Consortium Check out the rest of the series with Rick: Behind the Scenes of the Food Safety Consortium: Curation, Speakers & 15 Years of Evolution with Rick Biros from Food Safety Tech | Episode 170Food Safety as an Investment: Inside the 2026 Food Safety Consortium with Rick Biros | Episode 173 Noteworthy quotes from this episode “There wasn't a dry eye in the audience. I read the story, and I just said, ‘Wow, folks, that's why you do what you do.’” – Rick Biros “These situations are 100% preventable. Somewhere along the way, somebody did something wrong. We are never gonna stop all of them. We're not gonna eradicate all of the foodborne illnesses. But we could certainly reduce them significantly.” – Francine L Shaw We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms

    Food Safety Consortium 2026: Allergens, Traceability & a Story That Silenced a Room with Rick Biros from Food Safety Tech | Episode 176
  5. Jul 14

    The Power of Storytelling in Food Safety with Dr. Darin Detwiler & Gennette Zimmer | Episode 175

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. Every corporate food safety crisis seems to follow the same script: a somber press conference, a pledge to prioritize safety, a promise to retrain the people at the bottom. But what if the missing ingredient isn't more data or policy — it's story?  In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Dr. Darin Detwiler and Gennette Zimmer join Francine and Matt to make the case that food safety culture is built on the stories we tell, and the ones we're afraid to. They explore how storytelling shapes food safety culture, why credentials don't always equal true expertise, and why so many food safety conferences still don't reflect the people most affected by failures. In this episode: 00:00:00 Storytelling as the "Mortar" of Food Safety Culture 00:03:57 Darin's 30 Years of Teaching Comes to a Close 00:12:39 Teaching Through Storytelling 00:19:43 Peanut Corp, Baby Formula, Boar's Head: A Pattern of Ignored Warnings 00:24:00 The Corporate Crisis Playbook 00:26:48 The Families' Food Safety Forgets 00:31:00 Storytelling Talk at the Food Safety Consortium 00:40:46 How Storytelling Impacts Audiences 00:44:15 Diversity and Representation in Food Safety 00:49:34 The Three Dimensions of Storytelling Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Resources from this episode Connect with Dr. Darin Detwiler on LinkedIn Connect with Gennette Zimmer on LinkedIn Confessions of a Food Safety A**hole podcast Take a look at our past episode with Darin and Gennette: What Happens When You Speak Up For Food Safety with Food Safety Icon Dr. Darin Detwiler and His Wife Gennette Zimmer Get 25% off the 2026 Food Safety Consortium with discount code POOP Noteworthy quotes from this episode “ When the people who are your intended audience do not see themselves reflected in the conversation, that's hard for buy-in.” – Dr. Darin Detwiler We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms _______

    The Power of Storytelling in Food Safety with Dr. Darin Detwiler & Gennette Zimmer | Episode 175
  6. Jul 7

    Fake IDs, Real Consequences: Child Labor Exposed in the Meat Industry | Episode 174

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. A janitorial contractor forged IDs for 336 of his 353 workers, and two dozen of them were children as young as 13, cleaning industrial equipment inside a Perdue Farms slaughterhouse.  In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine dig into a case that took six years to reach sentencing, exposing how easily child labor laws can be circumvented when a subcontractor controls the paperwork. Along the way, the story opens into a much bigger problem: stolen identities, the real people left cleaning up the damage, and what food companies should be asking their staffing vendors. Hiring the cheapest staffing vendor might be costing you a lot more than you think. In this episode: 00:00:57 Child Labor Laws in the Food Safety Industry 00:09:35 A Janitorial Manager’s Guilty Plea for Forged IDs 00:13:17 Why Slaughterhouses are No Place for Kids 00:18:50 Forged Licenses, Birth Certificates, and Stolen Social Security Numbers 00:23:58 Déjà Vu: The 2023 Packer Sanitation Services Case 00:25:54 Identity Theft Victims and Corporate Security Fallout Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Resources from this episode Take a look at the two articles we mentioned in this episode: Sentence scheduled for former janitorial services manager who forged IDs for hundreds of workersWorkers for slaughterhouse cleaning firm that hired children repeatedly used stolen identities to get jobs Noteworthy quotes from this episode “A slaughterhouse is not for children. These places are dangerous for adults. I'm not saying they should be shut down. I'm just saying you have to be 100% aware of your surroundings in a slaughterhouse.” – Matt Regusci “It's like everything else. You get what you pay for.” – Francine L Shaw We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms _______

    Fake IDs, Real Consequences: Child Labor Exposed in the Meat Industry | Episode 174
  7. Jun 30

    Food Safety as an Investment: Inside the 2026 Food Safety Consortium with Rick Biros | Episode 173

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. Rick Biros, founder of Food Safety Tech and the Food Safety Consortium, is back with our hosts Matt and Francine to make the case that food safety needs a new narrative — one built on ROI and recognition instead of checkbox culture, with buy-in that has to reach all the way up to the C-suite. This episode of Don't Eat Poop! previews what's new at the 2026 Food Safety Consortium: a storytellers panel with Francine and Darin Detwiler, a brand-new award for food safety teams that can prove their bottom-line impact, and an update on the growing Women in Food Safety community. In this episode: 00:00:00 Abstract Submissions for the Food Safety Consortium 00:03:55 Storytelling as a Food Safety Leadership Tool 00:07:04 The Real Food Safety Culture Challenge 00:12:19 The ROI of Food Safety 00:21:04 Introducing the Food Safety Tech Excellence Award 00:26:12 Women in Food Safety: Mentorship & Growth Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Resources from this episode Use the discount code POOP for 25% off your ticket to the 2026 Food Safety Consortium. Enter the new Food Safety Tech Excellence Award at foodsafetytech.com  Take a look at our previous episodes with Rick: Behind the Scenes of the Food Safety Consortium: Curation, Speakers & 15 Years of Evolution with Rick Biros from Food Safety Tech | Episode 17015 Years of Food Safety Tech: Food Safety Compliance vs Reality with Rick Biros | Episode 161Behind the Scenes at the Food Safety Consortium with Rick Biros: Conference Culture, Compliance & Community | Episode 123 Noteworthy quotes from this episode “As a food safety community, we have to start changing the narrative about food safety. This is not just about compliance. Compliance should be the bare minimum. That's not what you shoot for. That's the floor. That should be expected.” – Rick Biros We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms _______

    Food Safety as an Investment: Inside the 2026 Food Safety Consortium with Rick Biros | Episode 173
  8. Jun 23

    World Cup Food Safety: 10 Million Visitors & 28 Health Inspectors | Episode 172

    🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere. 👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates. The FIFA World Cup is coming to Atlanta, and with it, up to 10 million visitors, thousands of temporary food vendors, and a food safety infrastructure that is already stretched thin. In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Francine and Matt pull apart the logistics of feeding a city-sized surge of international fans, from inspecting pop-up tents in 100-degree heat to the very real norovirus scenario that could turn one food truck into a multi-city outbreak.  When you pack 10 million people into a city with 28 health inspectors on the clock, something is going to fall through the cracks — the question is how much. In this episode: 00:00:00 World Cup in Atlanta: The Numbers 00:09:25 Atlanta Health Inspectors’ Impossible Workload 00:16:01 Potential Novovirus Scenarios 00:17:59 Temperature Control and Food Safety Blind Spots 00:25:27 The Reality of Food Safety Inspections 00:28:42 Approved Vendors and Traceability 00:37:39 Atlanta is Preparing for the World Cup Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Resources from this episode Take a look at the article we’re talking about in this episode: Atlanta health inspectors prepare restaurants and vendors for World Cup crowds Noteworthy quotes from this episode “ Moral of the story is do not be a jerk to your health inspector.” – Matt Regusci “The volume of people is one thing. [...] So now they've got to inspect all these temporary vendors that are gonna come in to be permitted for the World Cup.” – Francine L Shaw We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. We'd love to hear from you! 📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn! 📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? 🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP! Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected. _______ Produced by Ideablossoms

    World Cup Food Safety: 10 Million Visitors & 28 Health Inspectors | Episode 172
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Tune in every Tuesday for a brand new episode of Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast. Join Francine L. Shaw, the savvy CEO of Savvy Food Safety, and Matthew Regusci, compliance connoisseur and founder of Fostering Compliance, as they serve up the latest in food safety with a side of laughter. Explore the ins and outs of food systems, responsible food practices, and food safety regulations. Stay informed about food safety awareness and the not-so-occasional food recall. Delve deep into the complexities of the food supply chain with our dynamic duo, who blend expert insights with a pinch of food safety humor. Whether you're knee-deep in the food safety industry or just passionate about what's on your plate, this podcast promises a fresh take on staying safe while eating well. Expect candid conversations, personal anecdotes, and occasional guest appearances that spice up the discussion. Shaw and Regusci bring their combined decades of experience to the table, making each episode as informative as it is entertaining. From industry trends to must-know food safety news and regulations, they've got your back (and your lunch). In essence, Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast is not just about imparting information; it's about fostering a culture of food safety. By shedding light on the intricacies of the food supply chain and the latest food safety news, it aims to promote awareness and encourage responsible food practices among consumers and industry professionals alike. When it comes to food safety, knowledge is power, and a good laugh is the best seasoning. At the heart of every episode is one golden rule: Don't Eat Poop!

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