The Marketing Architects

Marketing Architects

Introducing a research-first podcast that builds revenue, not condos. Answer questions on the biggest marketing trends and news with discussions based in marketing, psychology and economics research. Along the way, learn about marketing accountability, category leadership, brand-building and much more. Featuring a team of experienced marketers whose blueprints for success are marketing strategies actually proven to work.

  1. The Performance-to-Brand Playbook with Peter Sengenberger

    2d ago

    The Performance-to-Brand Playbook with Peter Sengenberger

    A premium supplement brand saw retail sales jump 40% in six months after one strategic shift: switching from direct response TV to brand advertising. That single result changed 25-year media pro Peter Sengenberger's entire belief system.  In this episode, Elena and Rob are joined by Peter Sengenberger, former demand gen and brand strategy lead at BambooHR. Peter explains why over-reliance on performance channels creates a "doom loop," why brand advertising builds what he calls "prepaid demand," and how his "depth of message" framework ranks media by the quality of impressions they deliver.   Topics covered:  [00:00] Performance marketing's "doom loop" and the case for brand advertising [04:00] Supplement brand case study: 40% retail lift from brand TV [09:00] The true cost of over-optimization [13:00] Why TV earns the highest trust and completion rates [16:00] CTV skepticism: what is overpromised and why[18:00] Programmatic media and the algorithmic house advantage[20:00] What direct response teaches every marketer  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources:  Ogilvy on Advertising by David Ogilvy: https://www.amazon.com/Ogilvy-Advertising-David/dp/039472903X 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing by Al Ries and Jack Trout: https://www.amazon.com/22-Immutable-Laws-Marketing-Violate/dp/0887306667/ Grow with Peter Substack: https://growwithpeter.substack.com/ Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    29 min
  2. Jun 16

    The Death of the Funnel

    Concern about short-termism among marketers jumped from 25% in 2022 to 55% in 2025. Budget allocation barely moved. The funnel may not be dead, but it might be damaging your brand. This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob debate whether the marketing funnel still belongs in the boardroom. They unpack why the funnel persists despite strong evidence against it, how ad platforms reinforce flawed thinking for commercial reasons, and what alternatives actually work.  Topics covered: •    [01:00] Marketing Week article on why funnel reinvention is backfiring •    [02:00] The funnel as a mental shortcut vs. a map of how people buy •    [05:00] How ad platforms built funnel logic into their products for commercial reasons •    [07:00] Categories where the funnel fits (and where it falls apart) •    [11:00] The say-do gap: marketers believe in brand investment but budgets barely moved •    [15:00] Tom Roach's alternative: building, nudging, and connecting •    [18:00] How to plan media without the funnel •    [20:00] What great creative looks like when you stop thinking in funnel stages To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter. Resources: 2025 Marketing Week Article: https://www.marketingweek.com/reality-check-funnel-reinvent/ Google Messy Middle Research: https://business.google.com/us/think/consumer-insights/navigating-purchase-behavior-and-decision-making/ WARC Multiplier Effect Report: https://page.warc.com/the-multiplier-effect-report Thinkbox Profitability 2 Report: https://www.thinkbox.tv/profitability2 Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    26 min
  3. Synthetic Research and the Future of Marketing with Peter Weinberg

    Jun 9

    Synthetic Research and the Future of Marketing with Peter Weinberg

    95% of senior marketing leaders are already using or planning to use synthetic data within 12 months. So why are so many marketers still on the fence? In this episode, Elena, Angela, and Rob talk with Peter Weinberg, co-founder of Evidenza and former head of research at LinkedIn’s B2B Institute. They discuss where to start with synthetic audiences, how to assess accuracy, and why brand building still matters as AI changes how people search and decide. Topics covered: •    [00:00] Introductions and what synthetic research actually is •    [03:00] Why 95% of marketing leaders plan to use synthetic data within 12 months •    [05:00] Synthetic research really replaces ignorance, not traditional surveys •    [09:00] How to evaluate accuracy in synthetic research tools •    [10:30] Where marketers should start: find the white spaces first •    [16:00] Why AI can be creative and what 'temperature' means for marketers •    [24:00] Why brand still matters in an AI-driven search world •    [28:00] How Evidenza applied Ehrenberg-Bass principles to build their own brand •    [34:00] Why more real-time data can lead to worse decisions To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter. Resources: 2025 Qualtrics Article: https://www.qualtrics.com/articles/strategy-research/synthetic-research-breakthrough/ Peter's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weinbergpeter/ Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    42 min
  4. Two-Thirds of American Marketers Would Fail a Basic Marketing Test with Mark Ritson

    Jun 2

    Two-Thirds of American Marketers Would Fail a Basic Marketing Test with Mark Ritson

    More than 40% of American marketers can't define positioning. And 84% of those same marketers rate themselves as above average. Both can't be right. This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by Mark Ritson, marketing professor, consultant, and creator of the Mini MBA. Mark walks through his new research with Ipsos on US marketing knowledge, explains why formal training is the single biggest predictor of marketing competence, and shares the one concept every marketer should prioritize. The conversation also covers market orientation, how AI is reshaping marketing careers, and what it takes to stay relevant in the years ahead. Topics covered: •    [01:00] Ipsos study reveals the US marketing knowledge gap •    [04:00] Why formal education is the top predictor of marketing success •    [08:00] Where marketers can find good training today •    [13:00] Market orientation as the most important concept to learn •    [17:00] How AI will reshape marketing careers and roles •    [24:00] Byron Sharp and Mark Ritson's upcoming Cannes Lions session •    [27:00] What the rise of AI means for the agency world To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter. Resources: 2025 Adweek Article: https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/two-thirds-of-american-marketers-would-fail-a-basic-marketing-test/ Mark Ritson's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markritson/  Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    40 min
4.7
out of 5
46 Ratings

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Introducing a research-first podcast that builds revenue, not condos. Answer questions on the biggest marketing trends and news with discussions based in marketing, psychology and economics research. Along the way, learn about marketing accountability, category leadership, brand-building and much more. Featuring a team of experienced marketers whose blueprints for success are marketing strategies actually proven to work.

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