Off Topic Whiskey

Randall Janc

All things whiskey related. We will talk process, deep dives on distilleries and bottles. And the whiskey scene. And now so much more.

  1. 6d ago

    203: Exotic Wood Experiment

    1 Whiskey 8 Finishes. I Have been waiting to do this for years. hope you enjoy Patreon.com/offtopicwhiskey Badmotivatorbarrels.com/shop/?aff=3 https://www.instagram.com/zsmithwhiskeyandmixology?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&stkn=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== The Cash Stave Experiment refers to a popular multi-part experimental video project by the Whiskey Tribe, an online community and media channel dedicated to whiskey culture. The Core Concept In the experiment, the hosts took a regular bourbon barrel stave—referred to or selected in connection to their community project—and used it to test how different wood-finishing methods alter the aging profile of whiskey. This mirrors advanced distillery methods like stave finishing (pioneered widely by brands like Maker's Mark for their Maker's 46 expression), where virgin or specially treated oak staves are inserted into an already matured barrel to quickly impart intense new flavors like caramel, cinnamon, and spice. [1] Community Involvement The project was structured as an interactive experience for their community: The Process: The team altered a wood stave and added it to a batch of spirit to observe accelerated maturation. The Vote: Fans and Patreon subscribers voted on how to manage the whiskey and what to do with the finished liquid once the secondary maturation process was complete. [1] The Results: Full behind-the-scenes breakdowns, including tasting notes of the "Frankenstein" style aging experiment, were released as exclusive content for their audience Mar 20, 2023

    203: Exotic Wood Experiment
  2. Sep 26

    202: Old Glory With Devin Puckett

    So we had some scheduling issues and computer issues. But we finally made it work. Old Glory Distilling out of Clarksville Tennessee, doing some cool stuff with bourbons and Tennessee Whiskey. Enjoy.Patreon.com/offtopicwhiskeyBadmotivatorbarrels.com/shop/?aff=3https://www.instagram.com/zsmithwhisk...Damn Fine Tennessee SpiritsAt Old Glory Distilling Co., we take pride in doing things the right way—every batch from scratch. From carefully selected grains to time-honored distillation methods, we’re crafting spirits worth raising a glass to.We distill everything on-site from Grain to Glory. From grinding and mashing to distilling, aging, and bottling, every step happens right here at our campus in Clarksville, TN. We’re proud to call Tennessee home, and that pride is poured into every bottle. Our grains are locally sourced, our process is hands-on, and our commitment to quality never wavers.Located in the heart of Clarksville, Tennessee, we’re more than just a distillery—we’re a destination. Whether you’re here for a guided distillery tour and tasting, enjoying a meal at our restaurant, or sipping cocktails in the Silo Park, we welcome you to experience the spirit of Old Glory.What Makes Tennessee Bourbon … Tennessee?Not all bourbon is Tennessee Bourbon. While all bourbon must be made in the U.S. and follow strict regulations—at least 51% corn, aged in new charred oak barrels, and distilled to specific proofs—Tennessee Bourbon takes it a step further.As a Tennessee distillery, we follow the Lincoln County Process, a signature step that sets Tennessee whiskey and bourbon apart. Before aging, the whiskey is slowly filtered through sugar maple charcoal, refining the spirit and giving it the smooth character Tennessee is known for.At Old Glory Distilling Co., we take this tradition seriously. Every batch is distilled, aged, and bottled right here in Clarksville, Tennessee, using locally sourced grains and time-honored methods. Because making bourbon the Tennessee way isn’t just a process—it’s a commitment to quality, and it’s one we don’t take lightly.

    202: Old Glory With Devin Puckett
  3. Sep 19

    201: To Peat or Not to Peat

    So as y'all well know, I love a good peated whiskey. But does the peat enhance the flavor or cover it. Today we get a little closer to finding out. Thank you for hanging out. Be Blessed Patreon.com/offtopicwhiskey Badmotivatorbarrels.com/shop/?aff=3 https://www.instagram.com/zsmithwhiskeyandmixology?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&stkn=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== December 18, 2017 –––––– Jonny McCormick Iodine. Coal tar. Asphalt. Bacon fat. Brine. Tarry rope. Soot. Campfire ash. Seaweed. Creosote. These are some signature flavors of peated whisky. It's hard to tell if we should drink it or use it to seal a leaky roof. Peated whiskies have an edgy reputation for being boisterous, pungent, antagonistic drinks. They invite you to take a slug at the end of an ocean pier, stretch out your arms, and let out a visceral, primal howl. And for the drinkers who love them, only peated whisky will do.Peated whisky hasn't always been so popular. Most recently, peated whiskies roared back into fashion after the Millennium, igniting a smoldering passion that has engulfed wave after wave of whisky drinkers ever since. Sure, other spirits use cereal grains, yeast, and oak barrels, but peat smoke defines this exuberant style of whisky. An equation for peat might be written as flora plus death and water, minus oxygen, multiplied by pressure and time. In other words, peat is the decomposed remains of grasses, moss, sedges, and reeds that have been compressed over centuries in the oxygen-starved, waterlogged conditions of bogs in the colder climates of countries at higher latitudes. We're used to waiting for whisky to mature, but one foot of peat might take 300 years to form. If you've never handled the stuff, it's a truly wonderful tactile experience. Peat can be black as coal when dried or appear as dirty clods bristling with pale, straggly roots. When it's cut and lifted from the peat bank, it can be glisteningly moist. Peat has a presence in Longrow whisky from Springbank Distillery in Campbeltown. Healthy peat bogs form important carbon stores to combat the effects of climate change and many habitats have protected status where peat removal is not permitted. Cutting peat sods vertically by hand is a laborious task, but the majority of peat used for whisky production is commercially harvested horizontally; using specialized tools dragged behind a tractor. Peat taken from nearer the surface is preferred in Scotland. Those disheveled chunks full of dangly strands of dead grasses produce more smoke when burnt in the kiln than the more uniform black-brown slabs of peat dug up and dried from the deeper layers; these are better tossed into the hearth for warmth on a frosty winter's night.Mankind has been burning dried peat as a freely available source of fuel for thousands of years, predominantly to satisfy the need for heat and cooking. It's that same burning peat smoke that is revealed in peated whisky. Peat is used during one stage of the whisky making process only: the kilning of the malt. Malting promotes germination, which converts the energy packed inside the grain, making it ready for fermentation into ethanol. On the perforated floor of the drying chamber beneath the distillery's pagoda roof, the malted barley is spread out and a fire is nurtured in the kiln below. Shovelfuls of aromatic, combustible peat are added to quell the flames; the objective is a thick rising cloud of pale gray peat smoke. The peat reek drapes layer upon smoky layer around the grain, the aromas absorbed onto the surface of the moist husks. At the Laphroaig Distillerymaltings, they burn only peat in the kiln, 1.5 tons of the stuff every day. But Laphroaig is the exception: other fuels like coke are generally used in addition to peat to carefully control the final level of peat flavors. A kiln at Highland Park is stacked with glowing bricks of peat. https://whiskyadvocate.com/everything-to-know-about-peat-in-whisky

    201: To Peat or Not to Peat
  4. Sep 12

    200th Live

    This is the redo of the live i did 9/8/26 With some amazing guests. Hope you enjoy if you were not there. Patreon.com/oftopicwhiskey Andalusiawhiskey.com Whiskeydelbac.com Hrdspirits.com Andalusia Whiskey Co produces fine handcrafted whiskeys in the Texas Hill Country - a scene reminiscent of the hills in the beautiful Andalucia, Spain. Each whiskey being “grain to glass,” we begin with a mash of the finest American grown malted grains. We then continue our production here in Blanco, Texas distilling each in our hand-crafted copper pot still. McCarthy's® OregonSingle Malt WhiskeyThe First American Single Malt. Blend old-world tradition with Oregon ingenuity and you get McCarthy’s Oregon Single Malt Whiskey. Over 25 years ago, founder Steve McCarthy returned from a trip to Ireland determined to make his own single malt. Not only did he succeed, but in doing so ignited the craft American Single Malt Revolution. This is passion and craft, an Oregon original. It was one of those cool desert nights in 2006 where Elaine and Stephen Paul sat outside on their patio, barbecuing over a mesquite fire and enjoying a glass of Scotch. Elaine had an idea — “What if you made single malt whiskey with ‘mesquited’ malt instead of peated malt?”‍Stephen couldn’t shake the concept. After all, he knew mesquite well. He and Elaine owned a furniture design company that specialized in mesquite. Well-known for the flavor it imparts to food that is cooked over it, mesquite is a beautifully grained wood native to the desert Southwest.Stephen began learning everything he could about how the Scots make their whiskies. While learning how to floor-malt barley, he began with the recipe for Classic, modeled after the unpeated style of Speyside Scotches. If he could nail down a clean-finishing American Single Malt Whiskey that rivaled Scotland’s finest, then he could take the recipe and put a Southwest spin on it — which is how our mesquited (not peated) Dorado was born.

    200th Live
  5. Sep 5

    199: Esters

    So on the wake of the Big 200 I thought I would do a episode about esters. Or what your actually tasting in your whiskey (besides ethonol). Hope you enjoy. Be Blessed Badmotivatorbarrels.com/shop/?aff=3 https://www.instagram.com/zsmithwhiskeyandmixology?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsi=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== Patreon.com/offtopicwhiskey Esters are the primary chemical compounds responsible for the sweet, fruity, and floral flavors in whiskey.They are formed when an alcohol molecule bonds with an organic acid molecule—a chemical reaction known as esterification. While water and ethanol make up the vast majority of a bottle of whiskey, trace compounds like esters define its aromatic character and flavor profile. Over 100 different esters can exist in a single whiskey. Their creation, concentration, and evolution span the entire production pipeline. 1. Common Esters and Their Flavors Depending on the specific combination of alcohols and acids, different esters produce highly distinct sensory notes: Ester Name Associated Flavor ProfileNotes / Significance Ethyl AcetateGreen apple, pear drops, or nail polish removerThe most common ester in whiskey; concentrations rise steadily as a marker of proper aging.Isoamyl AcetateBanana, circus peanutsHighly volatile and highly recognizable, giving strong top-note fruitiness. Ethyl ButyratePineapple, tropical fruitsProvides a sweet, rich, exotic fruit punctuation. Ethyl CaprylateApple, bright orchard fruitsContributes to the crisp fruitiness found in many light malt whiskies. Formic Acid Ethyl EsterRum-like sweetnessAdds complex, deep spirit undertones. 2. How Esters Form During Production Esters are not just introduced at one single stage; they are generated, modified, and refined during three distinct phases of making whiskey: Fermentation (The Source): This is where the bulk of raw esters are born. As yeast consumes sugars in the wort, it creates both ethanol and secondary organic acids. Yeast strains, lower fermentation temperatures, and longer, slower fermentation times allow more acids and alcohols to interact, building up a high-ester "wash". Distillation (The Refiner): The heat inside a copper pot still triggers Fischer-Speier Esterification, accelerating the bonding of lingering acids and alcohols in the rising vapor. Distillers manipulate ester profiles by choosing where to make their "cuts". Lighter, highly volatile fruity esters come over early in the hearts, while heavier, longer-chain fatty acid esters cross over later. Maturation (The Transformer): Inside the oak cask, whiskey undergoes a slow chemical evolution. The wood breathes in oxygen, oxidizing ethanol into acetic acid, which then bonds to create fresh esters. Concurrently, the spirit breaks down oak lignins, yielding compounds like ethyl syringate (which smells like fig tobacco) and ethyl ferulate (cinnamon). Meanwhile, some highly volatile esters escape through the wood staves over time, constantly shifting the aroma profile. Still shape and the timing of the "cuts" are the primary mechanical tools a distiller uses to control which esters make it into the final bottle. While fermentation creates the raw esters, distillation determines their concentration, texture, and balance.

    199: Esters
  6. Aug 29

    198: Wolfe & Wilson with Alan Bishop & Erik Wolfe

    I got the chance to chat with Alan and Erik. And lets just say it was a education. And I can tell you it was what I needed. We talked the new release Wolfe & Wilson a colonial style rye whiskey. And we talked the industry and life, it was great. Hope you enjoy. Stollandwolfe.com https://www.instagram.com/thealchemistcabinet?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsi=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== Badmotivatorbarrels.com/shop/?aff=3 Patreon.com/offtopicwhiskey Drawn directly from a colonial-era booklet, this unique expression by two craft distillers with a love for the past showcases a genuine attempt to recreate early American distilling practices using documented historical recipes, heritage grains, and period-appropriate techniques. It is a true representation of a 250th anniversary whiskey. Stoll & Wolfe, a storied craft distillery at the forefront of high-quality Pennsylvania rye whiskeys, is proud to announce Wolfe & Wilson Straight Rye Whiskey, a unique collaboration between two masters of the distilling arts, Stoll & Wolfe head distiller Erik Wolfe and southern Indiana farmer distiller Alan Bishop (formerly of Spirits of French Lick). This whiskey is based upon an old colonial-era recipe and serves as a true testament to the journey of this noble spirit through America’s 250 years. Wolfe & Wilson Straight Rye Whiskey draws its inspiration from a pamphlet written by Frederick Heinrich Gelwicks, an important piece of early American distilling lore from the late 1700s to early 1800s, documenting actual working recipes used by Pennsylvania distillers during that era. A recipe from that publication resulted in a whiskey with a unique grain combination of rye malt, wheat, rye, and oats, fermented with wild yeast and cheese culture, and aged in new American oak barrels at 105 proof. “Collaborating on translating a nearly 300 century old recipe is a unique opportunity to explore the roots of our local distilling traditions by bringing this whiskey to life and allowing modern consumers to experience a spirit nearly lost to history,” said Erik Wolfe. Wolfe and Bishop, sharing a fundamental distilling philosophy and ethos that values flavor over efficiency and also honors traditional production methods balanced against modern concerns, began collaboration on this whiskey back in 2023. The challenge for them was how to adapt for today’s distilling world a recipe of 1 bushel rye malt, 1 bushel wheat, 1 bushel rye, and 3 pecks of oats.  Sourcing heritage grains from Pennsylvania family farms, including the Kline farm that’s tied to Stoll & Wolfe, the two set out on an epic undertaking to recreate something few in the modern era would even consider. A testament to their combined creativity and fine attention to historical details, the expression is designed to give today’s whiskey drinker a glance at what was being enjoyed at the birth of a nation. “Bringing the knowledge brought to Indiana by early PA Germans back East to PA is one of the highlights of my career,” said Alan Bishop. “That we stuck to the ideals of the colonial distillers while implementing modern technological advantages speaks to just how well versed in the art of distillation our forefathers were.  To do such great work alongside Erik and Aviana is a rare opportunity!” Wolfe & Wilson Straight Rye Whiskey, Batch 1, was aged a minimum of two years in new charred American oak before being bottled at 100 proof. The product name Wolfe & Wilson carries layered personal and historical significance, as “Wolfe” represents Erik’s surname (Wolfe), while “Wilson” is Alan’s mother’s maiden name. Available at a price point of $80, only 1000 750 ml bottles of Batch 1 will be available starting July 4th through Stoll & Wolfe’s tasting room in Lititz, Pennsylvania, and online in the contiguous United States. .

    198: Wolfe & Wilson with Alan Bishop & Erik Wolfe
  7. Aug 22

    197: Chip Tate Ampersand & Gambit 6

    If you have been aware of the whiskey scene in the past 20 years Chip Tate's name has came into conversation. Founder of Balcones Whiskey and Multi Brand blender/ master of distillery Lets Just say Chip has done the thing. I sit down with him and go over all of the process of whiskey/mescal/tequila/spirits. Hope you enjoy. ffws.com/spirits Badmotivatorbarrels.com/shop/?aff=3 https://www.instagram.com/zsmithwhiskeyandmixology?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== Patreon.com/offtopicwhiskey Chip Tate, who founded Texas-based Balcones Distilling in 2008 and took the craft world by storm with his unusual grain recipes and production techniques, was named master distiller for innovation at Foley Family Wines two years ago. The California-based wine company had branched into spirits with the acquisition of mothballed Nevada-based grain-to-glass distillery Bently Heritage Estate (later renamed Minden Mill) in May 2023, and there was a promise of more to come. Now that "more" is here—Tate has debuted Ampersand, an intriguing new trio of whiskies that melds his blending prowess with his love of cask finishes. Ampersand’s three expressions are Malus, Vinea, and Opimus. Malus is a blend of 51% rye (sourced from Lawrenceburg, Indiana) and 49% calvados, an apple brandy native to Normandy, France, that is one of Tate’s favorite spirits. While he fully acknowledges that Malus isn’t a blended whiskey, it's something of a cousin. It’s also a cheeky take on barrel finishing. “When you age in a sherry barrel, of course, a lot of what you’re getting is from the wood, but sometimes there’s a bit of actual sherry in there as well,” he says. “With Malus, I went ahead and turned up the volume and blended in calvados, rather than just finishing [in calvados casks].” Unsurprisingly, the fruit is tremendous on the nose and the palate, both of which brim with all manner of apple—crisp, sauce, juice, and more—as well as loads of baking spice and a touch of Heath Bar. With Vinea, Tate also spotlights a unique whiskey-based blend, as well as an intense cask finish. In the mid-2010s, Tate started a distillery project that ultimately never panned out; as part of that project, he traveled to France and selected top-tier cognac casks, brought them back to Texas, and filled them with grain spirit made from 100% corn to keep them from drying out. Chip Tate While his intent wasn't to leave the spirit in those casks for any great length, they were ultimately forgotten; by the time Tate joined Foley, his out of sight, out of mind cognac casks were half-full of 9 year old grain spirit. “In the Texas heat, there’s a lot of barrel extraction, so these casks were intensely tannic,” he explains. “They were also wonderfully weird, and I thought about what I could do with them.” In blending the finished spirit with whiskey, he landed on rye (the same Lawrenceburg rye used in Malus); the final blend is 75% rye and 25% grain spirit that’s rich with notes of cinnamon spice, grape jelly, vanilla frosting, and barrel char. The most straightforward of Ampersand’s first three expressions is Opimus, a 15 year old Kentucky bourbon finished in tokaji (Hungarian dessert wine) casks. Tate inherited the bourbon casks at the start of his Foley tenure in January 2024, and while he thought they were excellent, he also found the whiskey to be quite chewy and tannic. As a blender, that wasn’t a problem for Tate—his next question was what to finish and or blend this liquid with, to get those flavors into balance. “I thought some really deep ripe fruit would be a perfect counterpoint to the tannic edge that you can get on a 15 year old bourbon, and the tokaji’s bold, ripened fruit has a particularly luscious character that really comes through,” he says. The whiskey spent 10 months in tokaji casks, and it certainly packs a sumptuous, fruity punch, redolent with quince paste, Fig Newton, stewed plums, candied orange, fudgy caramel, and plenty of hot baking spice.

    197: Chip Tate Ampersand & Gambit 6
  8. Aug 15

    196: Hardshore Distilling with Jordan Milne

    So let me take you back to a couple months ago. The family and I went up to Portland Maine for vacation. And i just had to stop by Hardshore Distilling. Adam from Lost Lantern got me contact info, and off we went. So this is a 1/2 onsite 1/2. online show. I hope you enjoy. Hardshoredistilling.com Badmotivatorbarrels.com/shop/?aff=3 https://www.instagram.com/zsmithwhiskeyandmixology?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== Not complicated. unconventional. Hardshore Distilling Company is a different kind of distillery. We don't obsess about what the other guys and girls are doing. We obsess about what they're not doing. We are only interested in making spirits that have a purpose on the bar shelf, not just imitating the greats who have already earned their place there. We are constantly trying to coax new tastes and textures out of anything we can fit in our stills (and with a 1,200-liter Arnold Holstein still, we can fit a lot). We almost never rule anything out before we've attempted to distill it at least once. Sometimes once is clearly enough. Other times, a change in technique with the same botanical can produce a very different result.  ​ In 2016, after nearly four years of tinkering and tweaking, we released our flagship product, Hardshore Original Gin. This lovely gin is thoughtfully crafted from our family-grown grain and is brimming with fresh rosemary and green mint. A very common refrain we hear from people goes something along the lines of "You know? I don't really even like gin....but I LOVE Hardshore!" That's what keeps us going. We want to be responsible for people reviewing their previous objections to gin. ​ Since then, we've carefully and thoughtfully added to our spirits portfolio with Shorebird Bourbon and now Star & Pine Maine Vodka, but our guiding principles for the gin apply to the rest of our products - do the work and let nature drive. We also strive to do our part to conserve the natural wonders of Maine that make Hardshore so unique. Our water comes straight to us from Sebago Lake, and is so clean that we don't require the use of reverse osmosis to purify our water. This helps us use up to 30% less water than other facilities of a similar size. We also support local conservation groups dedicated to preserving New England's natural water sources with the sale of ever bottle of our Star & Pine Maine Vodka. It's a small step, but it's in the right direction. Join us! Shorebird bourbon90 - 106 proof (45% - 53% ABV) It wasn't too long after we bottled our first batch of gin that our minds wandered beyond the category toward America's native spirit - bourbon. We imagined what our perfect conception of bourbon would be like and it became immediately clear - there is no perfect bourbon. Sometimes a punk-rock, flavor-forward bourbon is the call (Small Batch). At other times, a soft-spoken, exceptionally smooth whiskey is the trick (Single Barrel). Still others, a smokey, brooding and full-bodied whiskey puts the perfect cap on the night (Master Distiller's Series). We couldn't be more proud of these bourbons, all made right here at Hardshore using grains grown on our founder's 5th generation family farm. This is small bourbon at it absolute best.

    196: Hardshore Distilling with Jordan Milne
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