Finish Lines and Milestones

SandyBoy Productions

Every runner has a story. Finish Lines and Milestones is a podcast that celebrates the everyday runner. If you run, you’re a runner. Join host, Ally Brettnacher, every week as she shares these runner stories.

  1. Episode 159: The Joneses - Never Settle

    2D AGO

    Episode 159: The Joneses - Never Settle

    Jessica & Johnathon Jones live in Hamilton, Ohio — a city they've tried to leave more than a few times — and are opening a specialty running store this summer. They're both fresh off the Boston Marathon, where Jonathan ran a massive PR and Jess is oh-so-close to cracking three hours. I met Jess through LinkedIn (of all places) — we both went to Miami of Ohio! During this episode, sponsored by Batch and Cure, we talk about: Jonathan's 16-year road to Boston — including a ski accident that exposed his kneecap, emergency surgery, and somehow doing a full Ironman 10 months laterJess running a Boston qualifying marathon while 16 weeks pregnant (her third pregnancy, two kids already at home)How they operate very differently on race morning — one is immediate boarding, one is last callChecking Jonathan's finish time on her phone mid-race and crying happy tears at mile 15The proposal — racing to the end of Navy Pier in Chicago, all sweaty and mid-run, with both sets of parents hiding in position~30 marathons each, pacing each other through all of it, and why Jonathan offered to pace Jess to her sub-3 this fall instead of chasing his own goalTheir running store, Main Street Running Collective, opening in Hamilton, Ohio this summer — and why they're building it for the 60-year-old with bad knees, not the carbon plate crowdGetting a sitter at 5am on Saturdays so they could do their long run, get coffee, and still have a full family dayHow Knoxville changed the way they think about running as communityGirls on the Run, the Hamilton Run Club's 700+ members, and why a healthy city starts with people on their feetWhat's next: Berlin in the fall (they both qualified at Boston), sub-3 for Jess, and a grand openingPrevious Guests Mentioned ⁠Carly Stewart⁠ - Episode 53⁠Mike Vollmer⁠ - Episode 156Sponsor Details Batch - Use code FINISH for 30% off sitewideCure - Use code ALLYB for 20% offOther Links Main Street Running Collective on InstagramFollow me on Instagram ⁠@allytbrett_runs⁠⁠Subscribe to Finish Lines & Milestones weekly newsletter⁠This is a ⁠SandyBoy Productions⁠ podcast.

    1h 31m
  2. Episode 158: Dennis Mullen - The marathon doesn't owe you anything

    MAY 1

    Episode 158: Dennis Mullen - The marathon doesn't owe you anything

    Dennis Mullen and I met during our shared time on the board for Beyond Monumental, the organization behind the CNO Financial Indianapolis Monumental Marathon. During this episode, sponsored by Noogs, Batch, and Huug, we talk about: How Dennis found running in grad school after he couldn't keep up with his wife for even a mile — and how that humbling moment turned into sub-3 marathons 😅Winning a small half marathon in Noblesville in 2018 (don't look up the time, he says) and walking into his first marathon with way too much confidenceGoing out in a 1:24 for the first half of his debut marathon and... paying for it dearly in the second half (final time: 3:50)Coming back a year later at Monumental and running 2:59 — his first BQ — with a completely different mindsetQualifying for Boston three times and still not making it to the start line (the buffer zone is a cruel mistress)A herniated disc, degenerative disc disease, two Disney trips in a back brace, and a year lost to injury — and why he still considers that stretch one of his more impressive stretches of lifeHis plan to chase a BQ at a Last Chance race in Geneva, IL this fall — small field, flat course, and they treat you like an eliteCarmel Marathon being postponed two years in a row and the Brew City Marathon in Milwaukee saving the day last yearBeing on the board for Beyond Monumental and what volunteering at a race does for your perspective as a runnerRunning on the Zionsville Rail Trail (as a card-carrying member of the Zionsville Run Club who has never actually shown up 😂)Nutrition chat: Maurten gels, beet juice, salt tabs, and the nerd gummies pipelineHis walkout song: Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who (they play it at Colts games — you know it)Project Hail Mary is going on the audiobook list whether Previous Guests Mentioned Lauren Gaudion - Episode 106Mike Vollmer - Episode 156Salvador Escamilla - Episode 77Johanna Kitchell - Episode 114Sponsor Details Noogs - Use code ALLYB for 15% off your first order + free shipping on 2+ cartons (lower 48 only)Batch - Use code FINISH for 30% off sitewideHuug - Use code ALLYB for 15% off (combine with buy 3 get 1 free!)Other Links I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein - Live Event TicketsFollow Dennis on Instagram @dmullen11Follow me on Instagram @allytbrett_runsSubscribe to Finish Lines & Milestones weekly newsletterThis is a SandyBoy Productions podcast.

    1h 11m
  3. Episode 157: Noa Besner - Paces & Places 🌎

    APR 24

    Episode 157: Noa Besner - Paces & Places 🌎

    Noa Besner and I actually met in person at the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon shakeout run last fall — and I'm so glad we finally sat down to record together. Noa is a New York City-based runner, run coach, and co-founder of Paces & Places, a new travel company bringing small groups of runners to international races. During this episode, sponsored by Batch, we talk about: ​Getting into running completely by accident at 25 — skipping gym class courtesy of a mom-written note, then doing a charity half marathon when a friend got injured​Her first marathon: Nashville, 95 degrees, hilly, and a complete struggle — and why it made her want to do another one immediately​Going from a 5:32 at Nashville to a 3:26 PR ​What actually moved the needle: cross training, strength work, recovery, getting a coach, and building a real mental game​Coaching for New York Road Runners — and how it's a full circle moment from when she was Level 1 of 20 in one of their beginner groups​The philosophy behind keeping her coaching roster small and truly customizing plans around her athletes' lives​The time she ran Vancouver with a broken leg and didn't know it (whoops)​Her approach to racing for time vs. racing for experience — and how not every race needs to be a PR​Prep habits for time-goal races: driving the entire course, watching ride-along videos, memorizing every hill​Her 26 mantras — one per mile — including Mile 18 which is always "shut up buttercup" 😂​Paces & Places: the small group international race travel company she co-founded with Shannon and Jess​Their first trip: the Midnight Sun Marathon in Tromsø, Norway — Arctic Circle, 8:30 PM start, 24-hour daylight, sauna + North Sea plunge included​The Lochness Marathon in the Scottish Highlands: bagpipes at the start, Nessie plushies everywhere, stunning fall colors, and a bus ride to the top of a mountain​Why she only brings groups to races she's personally tested and loved​Racing internationally: jet lag strategy, food allergies and navigating Tokyo's sesame situation, Google Translate as a bestie​The NYC Marathon cancellation during Hurricane Sandy — she was at the expo holding a jacket she had to put back​Her NYC Marathon Day spectating strategy involving approximately 47 items crammed into her pockets and not getting spit at as a measure of success​Having a BQ rejected by 20 seconds despite qualifying by 3+ minutes 😭​Marathon taglines — and workshopping a better one for Indianapolis 👀Previous Guests Mentioned ​Quincy Sauer - Episode 148​Sally Hed Dahlquist - Episode 153Sponsor Details ​Batch - Use code FINISH for 30% off sitewideOther Links ​Paces & Places​Live podcast event with Lindsay Hein & Emma Grace Hurley — May 1st​Carly Trulock-Quinn's Blood Cancer United campaign — through May 8th​Follow me on Instagram @allytbrett_runs​Subscribe to Finish Lines & Milestones weekly newsletterThis is a SandyBoy Productions podcast.

    1h 16m
  4. Episode 156: Mike Vollmer - Every. Single. Indy. Mini.

    APR 17

    Episode 156: Mike Vollmer - Every. Single. Indy. Mini.

    Mike Vollmer and I connected thanks to the 500 Festival, who introduced us knowing I'd want to hear from someone who has run every single Indy Mini since the very first one in 1977. During this episode, sponsored by Cure, we talk about: How a politician's desire for name recognition in his own district accidentally launched a 49-year streak What the first Indy Mini looked like — 762 runners, an 11am start, 85 degrees and full sun, and a $5 entry feeRunning his first mini in indoor track shoes with rubber heel cupsStanding next to Frank Shorter at the start line (the man who launched the running boom of the '70s!)How the course has changed dramatically since 1977 — the scenic rolling hills along the White River, Coffin Hill, and why the track used to destroy anklesHis role in bringing St. Francis Hospital on as a sponsor — and how that sponsorship gave us the beloved finish line chocolate chip cookies 🍪Jump the Gun — the midnight party at St. Francis in Beech Grove where runners could guarantee their entry starting at 12:00am on February 1stHis marathon PR of 3:35:45 at age 39 — and how he averaged 30 miles/week for over 20 yearsRunning 14 marathons, including his first the day he turned 30 in Chicago, and his last at 42 in St. LouisHeart valve replacement surgery in 2020, prostate cancer surgery in 2015, and still showing up to the start line Last year's near-disaster: only 4 miles of training after a torn posterior muscle, finishing 15th from last in 4.5 hours, with a fellow Alumni Club member pulling him alongHis 25 years serving on the Mini's executive committee — overseeing everything from start line logistics to sponsor coordinationThe Circle City Cloggers at mile 4.5 on 10th and Holt Why he married a physical therapist (very convenient) and how she's gotten him to the start line more than onceHis racing mantra courtesy of Kathleen Duffy: "Pick up my feet, Lord, I'll put 'em down... Hallelujah, I'm homeward bound" Whether he'll stop at 50 or keep going (his answer might surprise you)Previous Guests Mentioned Lindsey Hein - Episode 100Rachel Sinders - Episode 8Sponsor Details Cure - Use code ALLYB for 20% offOther Links Tickets to the live podcast event with Lindsey Hein & Emma Grace Hurley — Friday, May 1st at Bottleworks HotelFollow me on Instagram @allytbrett_runsSubscribe to Finish Lines & Milestones weekly newsletterThis is a SandyBoy Productions podcast.

    1h 19m
  5. Episode 155: Keegan Kok - Get Comfy with the Uncomfy

    APR 10

    Episode 155: Keegan Kok - Get Comfy with the Uncomfy

    Keegan Kok and I met through the internet first, and then got to meet in person at the CNO Indianapolis Monumental Marathon last November. During this episode, sponsored by Amazfit, we talk about: How he grew up in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, moved to Hong Kong at 16, and ended up in Boston for college — where he stumbled into fencing tryouts (literally the only ones he didn't sleep through) and ended up team captainStarting running at 41 after losing 50 pounds through YouTube workouts and smaller portions — only to break his fibula on a ninja warrior structure at the park on Father's Day 🤦Running his first 5K on New Year's Eve and somehow getting a Chicago Marathon bib just eight months later while training for a 10KRunning Chicago four years in a row (plus Bayshore) and the deliberate decision to skip it this year and cheer from the sidelines insteadHis third Chicago Marathon, where two friends paced him the whole way — one hyping the crowd, one filming on a GoPro — and why that race changed how he thinks about running with othersNutrition lessons learned the hard way: cramping at mile 14 after skipping sodium on a cold race day despite a hot training summerWinning the Shamrock Shuffle Mile — with a lead car and actual tape to break — after just showing up to see what would happenHow he fell into the Brooks Running Collective, went to ambassador camp in Santa Monica, and found his people (and then aged out after three years)Co-founding a Tuesday morning track club in Chicago with friends Kim and Conrad — because none of them had a track background but they all wanted to do speed work, so they just figured it out togetherBeing a certified run coach (through UESCA) with three athletes, all currently training for spring halfs — intentionally capping at five so he can actually show up for each of themCoaching his daughter's 4th–8th grade cross country and track team at her Catholic school, where the main goal is making sure kids still like running when it's overThe 606 trail in Logan Square, CARA's lakefront hydration tents, and why the Chicago running community makes you feel like you belongHis family being scattered across the globe — parents back in Malaysia, brother in Hong Kong, sister now in Barcelona — and the very obvious reason to sign up for the Barcelona MarathonMeeting his wife at a pub crawl in Wrigleyville and going on a very long first date a month laterChasing a 1:40–1:42 at the Indy Mini with his friend and fellow Shokz ambassador Caroline — about 10 minutes faster than his current PR — because she believes he can do it, so now he has toPrevious Guests Mentioned Rob Perez - Episode 150Hillary Burgess - Episode 138Sponsor Details Amazfit - Use ALLYB for 10% offOther Links Indy Mini Live Podcast Event TicketsFollow me on Instagram @allytbrett_runsSubscribe to Finish Lines & Milestones weekly newsletterThis is a SandyBoy Productions podcast.

    1h 11m
4.7
out of 5
42 Ratings

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Every runner has a story. Finish Lines and Milestones is a podcast that celebrates the everyday runner. If you run, you’re a runner. Join host, Ally Brettnacher, every week as she shares these runner stories.

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