Mothering Wildlife

Elizabeth Johnson

Telling the stories of moms who work in zoo, wildlife, vet, and conservation organizations.  Working with wildlife brings a unique set of challenges for working mothers.  Join me every other week as I interview moms working primarily in the zoo field as we discuss their journey as moms, navigating the mental, emotional, and often physical challenges that come with caring for wildlife and caring for kids.

  1. Oct 15

    Zookeeper and Mother: Same, Same, But Different...But Are They Really That Different?! with Chandler Hammack from the Alabama Gulf Coast Zoo

    Send me a message! My guest this week is Chandler Hammack, a carnivore keeper at the Alabama Gulf Coast Zoo. As a wife to an active duty Coast Guard husband, Chandler is no stranger to moving around the country and gaining experience at a variety of facilities, especially in recent years after becoming married. We talk about her work history and whether or not she feels that variety has been beneficial. She worries people look at her resume and wonder why she's moved so much (which she admits is also because she has an adventuring spirit) but also admits that it has given her experience and perspective she might not have gained otherwise! Chandler was working with *the* famous Clydesdales of Busch Gardens when she became pregnant with her first child. She shares why she waited to tell her coworkers about her pregnancy until she was 20 weeks, as well as how she was able to be a pumping mom while at work and continue to work such a strenuous job. When Chandler's son was 8 weeks old, her husband deployed. Chandler shares the story of how she moved home temporarily so that she had support as a new mom. Due to her husbands's job, she also found herself as a stay at home mom for a period of time, before eventually getting back into the zoo field. Chandler talks candidly about how being a zookeeper and a mom are basically one in the same! She honestly thought being a stay at home mom was harder than going to work as a zookeeper! Staying at home was overstimulating, especially since she was used to working. However, most of her day as a stay at home mom was the same as what she did as a zookeeper - cleaning, feeding someone breakfast, doing dishes, and sweeping the floor - all on repeat just like at the zoo! Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    Zookeeper and Mother: Same, Same, But Different...But Are They Really That Different?! with Chandler Hammack from the Alabama Gulf Coast Zoo
  2. Sep 3

    Raising Kids Without a Village, A Dedicated Episode with Briana Schmidt from Wonders of Wildlife National Museum and Aquarium and Jessi Gorman from the Fort Worth Zoo

    Send me a message! This week we have another dedicated episode on one topic of motherhood, not having a "village" to help you raise your children. My guests are Briana Schmidt from Wonders of Wildlife National Museum and Aquarium and Jessi Gorman from the Fort Worth Zoo. Both have been on the podcast before and I'm happy to welcome them back to talk about his important topic! Briana and Jessi talk about what their biggest challenges are in raising kids without a community. Most of those challenges center around schedules and finding and having people available that you trust to watch your children. Both talk about having to find weekend care for their children and how they went about finding caregivers that they trusted.  It's hard to ask for help when you don't feel like you have a "go-to" family member or friend to help, especially with last minute needs or those times when you just need someone to watch your child for a couple of hours so you can get something done. Not wanting people to feel obligated to watch your child is an emotion that comes up time and time again, especially when children are younger and more is involved in their care.  There's also the things that you don't think of would be a challenge when you don't have a village, including who you put down as emergency contacts if you and your partner can't be reached, who can help watch your child if you are sick, and how do you spend quality time with your partner when it's not easy to find someone to watch your child for a night out. The question becomes, "Is the thing I need/want to do worth it right now to go through having to find someone to watch my child or should I just bring them along?" Ultimately, both Briana and Jessi have slowly but surely built villages and friend groups that allow them to have support but it's not easy and like Briana says, you have to put into it what you want to get out! Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    Raising Kids Without a Village, A Dedicated Episode with Briana Schmidt from Wonders of Wildlife National Museum and Aquarium and Jessi Gorman from the Fort Worth Zoo
  3. Aug 6

    Pregnancy and Childbirth Complications; a Dedicated Episode with Carolyn Kelly from the St. Louis Zoo and Caroline Adams formerly of the Zoo in Forest Park

    Send me a message! This week's episode is another dedicated episode on one topic - pregnancy and childbirth complications. I bring together two guests; Carolyn Kelley, the Assistant Manager of Tours at the St. Louis Zoo and Caroline Adams, the former Director of Education at the Zoo in Forest Park, who left the zoo field a couple of years ago and is now working for the state of Connecticut in childcare licensing.  Both share their stories with pregnancy complications while trying to work routines at the zoo. Their stories include journeys with hyperemesis gravidarum, inguinal hernias, Type 1 diabetes, pubic symphysis diastasis, and post partum pre-eclampsia.  We talk about how it felt to care for a newborn while also trying to care for your health and some of the differences between the postpartum periods of their first children vs. their second. One topic we dive into is the feeling of jealousy watching other mom's "normal" postpartum experiences because that wasn't their reality. We spend some time talking about the grief associated with deciding you are done having children because of complications that arose in your previous pregnancies. Finally, we talk about the guilt felt from having to modify routines at work and being put on light duty and how that impacted their teams.  Caroline's advice is to not only advocate for yourself at work, but advocate for yourself in a medical setting. Carolyn has made it her mission to try to supprt other moms as much as she can, hoping that by sharing her story that someone else navigating complications will feel less alone. Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    Pregnancy and Childbirth Complications; a Dedicated Episode with Carolyn Kelly from the St. Louis Zoo and Caroline Adams formerly of the Zoo in Forest Park
  4. Jul 23

    From Orcas to Orangutans with Carley Gonzalez from the Topeka Zoo

    Send me a message! My guest this week is Carley Gonzalez, an Animal Curator, from the Topeka Zoo. While Carley currently spends all of her time working with and managing terrestrial animals, she started in the field as a marine mammal trainer working with orcas! Carley and I touch on her professional journey, which includes some time spent out of the zoo and aquarium field, and then a journey back into the field. Through the power of networking and an open willingness to put her family first and learn something new, Carley went from working with marine mammals, her passion since she was a little girl, to learning about and working with terrestrial animals in a traditional zoo setting. We talk a lot on this podcast about pivoting into new roles as well as leaving the field and what it takes to get back into the field and Carley's story is a great example of the success that can be had when you are open minded. Carley's motherhood journey also includes some time spent as a single mom, working with marine mammals, and trying to navigate late nights and crazy schedules. We talk about this time period in her life and how she made it work. Moms are so good at just doing what needs to be done and as Carleys says, this was just her life and she didn't know any different so of course she made it work! Carley's advice to other moms is to put your family first and try to remember that work things can wait until tomorrow. She really urges moms to enjoy their kids when they are little and to try to be present while not beating yourself up about things out of your control.  Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    From Orcas to Orangutans with Carley Gonzalez from the Topeka Zoo
  5. Jul 9

    Two IVF Journeys; a Dedicated Episode on the Topic with Kaitlyn Fulmer from the Memphis Zoo and LeShea Cochu from the Chattanooga Zoo

    Send me a message! This week's episode is a little different. I wanted to bring together two moms within the zoo field who have IVF as part of their motherhood journey and let them have the opportunity to share their stories and talk to each other about their journeys. Kaitlyn Fulmer and LeShea Cochu joined me for this dedicated episode on going through IVF as a zookeeper, and I'm so grateful to them for being willing to share such intimate details about their experiences. Kaitlyn and LeShea both share their journeys to becoming pregnant through IVF. They talk about the timelines and the emotions involved with going through the process as well as how they cope with working while going through such a physical and emotional time. Both have had support at work and share that that can be critical in helping to feel like one can navigate going through IVF while working. Kaitlyn even shares some of the accommodations her team made for her in regard to working with sea lions who were on birth control. We also talk about how they both decided how much to share about what they were going through with their coworkers and facilities, as well as how they handle unintended questions and comments from family and friends. We talk about the financial side of IVF as well, which on a zookeeper budget can be tough. Both LeShea and Kaitlyn share about how they were able to finance IVF, including how much it costs for medication and how frustrating it can be to have to pay for unused medication. Finally, we talk about the schedule associated with IVF and how both of them were able to work their appointments around lunch schedules and changing work shifts. Kaitlyn and LeShea give some great advice about how they made the rigid schedules of IVF work with their roles at the zoo. Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    Two IVF Journeys; a Dedicated Episode on the Topic with Kaitlyn Fulmer from the Memphis Zoo and LeShea Cochu from the Chattanooga Zoo
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Telling the stories of moms who work in zoo, wildlife, vet, and conservation organizations.  Working with wildlife brings a unique set of challenges for working mothers.  Join me every other week as I interview moms working primarily in the zoo field as we discuss their journey as moms, navigating the mental, emotional, and often physical challenges that come with caring for wildlife and caring for kids.

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