Love How Deep Marriage Podcast

Brian Mayer & Heather Mayer
  • 5.0 (2)
  • Relationships
  • Updated Weekly

Love How Deep is a podcast designed to equip married couples like you with resources that rely on the transformative power of God's Word to strengthen your relationship. The hosts, Brian & Heather Mayer desire is to connect couples more deeply to each other. They do this by offering episode content that can help couples communicate better, resolve conflict, understand each other more, tackle roles and responsbilities, parent in better ways, control their finances more, and increase emotional, mental, physical, and spiritual parts of their lives. Engaging guests from married couples, pastors, therapists, authors, and other experts in the field offer great advice.

  1. 129: Do You Have the Fruit of the Spirit?

    3d ago

    129: Do You Have the Fruit of the Spirit?

    Living by the Spirit: The Fruit of the Spirit as a Marriage Roadmap Heather from Love. How Deep. asks what it means to "live by the Spirit," referencing Galatians 5:16 and the fruit of the Spirit in 5:22, describing it as one fruit with nine "segments" that reveal spiritual health and godly character. She applies each segment—love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control—especially to marriage, emphasizing consistent, Christ-like love; joy and peace during hardship through prayer and putting God first; patience without nagging; everyday acts of kindness and sacrificial goodness; faithfulness supported by practical guardrails; gentle, humble communication that builds a spouse up; and self-control over emotions, desires, actions, and thoughts. She concludes that proper priorities—God first, then spouse, then children—bring alignment and growth, and challenges listeners to pursue these traits through prayer and Scripture. 00:00 Live by the Spirit 00:08 Fruit of the Spirit 01:56 Love in Action 02:47 Joy Beyond Happiness 04:34 Peace at Home 06:04 Patience with Spouse 07:47 Kindness and Goodness 09:16 Faithfulness Guardrails 11:08 Gentleness in Conflict 12:30 Self-Control and Growth 13:29 Priorities and Challenge

    15 min
  2. 128: Moving Forward Part 2 - Finding Hope After Abuse and Divorce

    May 20

    128: Moving Forward Part 2 - Finding Hope After Abuse and Divorce

    In the conclusion of her two-part testimony, Heather goes deeper into the "aftermath" of a destructive marriage. This isn't just a story of surviving abuse; it's a masterclass in how God "recycles" our deepest pains into our greatest purposes. Heather discusses the struggle of letting down "The Mask," the fear of trusting again, and the divine orchestration that led to her marriage with Brian. If you feel like your past has permanently stained your future, this episode is your reminder that nothing is wasted. Key Takeaways: The Lingering Shadow: Why physical safety is only the first step, and the "internal" work of healing takes much longer. The Decision Fatigue: How the trauma of the past makes deciding on the future (and a new relationship) feel paralyzing. Breaking the "Play Church" Cycle: Moving from performing for God to resting at His feet. Recycled Grace: A reflection on Jesus Calling and the truth that your mistakes and sins can be transformed into something good. Resources Mentioned: Moving Forward - Part 1 Devotional: Jesus Calling by Sarah Young. Connect with Love How Deep: Website: www.lovehowdeep.com Facebook:  www.facebook.com/@lovehowdeep

    1h 19m
  3. 127: Navigating Abuse, Divorce, and Spiritual Healing - Part 3

    May 6

    127: Navigating Abuse, Divorce, and Spiritual Healing - Part 3

    Part 3: The Hard Road to Freedom: Legacy from the Ashes Recovery isn't a straight line; it's an onion. In the final installment of this series, Heather walks us through the "after"—the actual divorce, the realization of abuse, and the slow, intentional construction of a new life. This is where "Love How Deep" was born. Summary: In our final episode, we explore the messy reality of starting over. Heather discusses the profound difficulty of forgiveness—not as a one-time event, but as a layer-by-layer peeling of an onion. She shares the transition from being a victim of a destructive narrative to becoming a writer, a speaker, and a "Relational Architect." Heather reflects on her life now with Brian, showing how the "bad stuff" didn't just end, but how it was repurposed into a mission to help other couples avoid the same baggage. This episode is an invitation to anyone who feels like their story is over. Heather proves that your greatest trial is often the "Research and Development" for your greatest calling. We conclude with a powerful message on the necessity of "Godly friends" and the strength found in being "still" during the flood. Key Takeaways: The Forgiveness Onion: Real talk on how long it actually takes to heal. Repurposing Pain: How Heather's Heart and Brian's Brain became the foundation for Love How Deep. Finding Your Tribe: The role of judgment-free, Godly community in the recovery process. Featured Resources: Love How Deep Website:  www.lovehowdeep.com

    36 min
  4. 126: Navigating Abuse, Divorce, and Spiritual Healing - Part 2

    Apr 22

    126: Navigating Abuse, Divorce, and Spiritual Healing - Part 2

    Episode 2: The Turning Point: Finding a Face in the Fire Most people wait for their circumstances to change before they seek peace. Heather did the opposite. In this episode, she recounts the moment she stopped praying for her marriage to be fixed and started praying for her soul to be found. Summary: Episode 2 takes us into the eye of the storm. While her marriage was at its most "horrific" and the lies were at their peak, Heather attended a worship conference that changed everything. It wasn't a magic fix; it was a spiritual breaking point. Heather details her journey through "Cleansing Streams" and the grueling, beautiful process of "heatherizing" the Bible—taking a single verse and picking it apart until it speaks to the marrow of your bones. The highlight of this episode is the "Week of Prayer," where Heather describes a visceral encounter with the heart of God. In a moment of total surrender, she heard a directive that every leader in crisis needs to hear: "Look to Me, no matter what." This episode is a roadmap for anyone currently in a "waiting room" of life, showing you how to find a "Face to Face" connection with God when you can't see the path forward. Key Takeaways: Obedience Over Feelings: How to move forward when your emotions are screaming. Journaling as Therapy: Using the Psalms to find your own voice again. The "Face to Face" Directive: Why looking at the Problem prevents you from seeing the Provider. Featured Resources: Love How Deep Website: www.lovehowdeep.com

    21 min
  5. 125: Navigating Abuse, Divorce, and Spiritual Healing Part 1

    Apr 8

    125: Navigating Abuse, Divorce, and Spiritual Healing Part 1

    Part 1: The Hidden Crisis: When "I Do" Becomes a Lie What do you do when the person who promised to love you forever suddenly becomes a stranger? Heather opens the vault on her early years, revealing the painful transition from a hopeful 21-year-old bride to a woman living a double life. This isn't just a story about a breakup; it's a masterclass in recognizing the "silent" red flags of a destructive marriage. Summary: In this premiere episode, Heather shares the raw beginning of a journey she never asked for. Growing up as the "good girl" and the "black sheep" of a family that didn't do divorce, Heather found herself in a marriage defined by confusion and sudden abandonment. From the shock of a husband moving out without warning in Texas to the "mask-wearing" years in Florida, Heather explores the psychological toll of spiritual and emotional isolation. We dive deep into the "Performance Trap"—the exhausting effort of leading worship and singing about God's mercy on Sunday while feeling utterly abandoned by Him on Monday. If you have ever felt like you had to choose between your reputation and your reality, this episode is your permission to take off the mask. Key Takeaways: The Anatomy of Abandonment: Understanding the shock of "sudden" departure. The Church Mask: Why we feel the need to look "perfect" when our world is falling apart. The Black Sheep Syndrome: Navigating the shame of being the first in your circles to face marital failure. Featured Resources: Connect with Love How Deep: www.lovehowdeep.com

    10 min
  6. 124: What Every Husband Gets Wrong About Marriage

    Mar 25

    124: What Every Husband Gets Wrong About Marriage

    Episode Title: What Every Husband Gets Wrong About Marriage Podcast: Love How Deep Hosts: Brian & Heather Episode Summary: Fellas, are you feeling the pressure of being the spiritual head of your house? In this episode, Brian puts the men on the hot seat—but with a lot of grace. He breaks down the common pitfalls of husbandhood, from the tendency to retreat into an "isolated cave" to the misunderstanding of what it means to lead. Using personal stories about career transitions and "parental" triggers, Brian and Heather explore how a husband's leadership hinges on humility, provision, and active participation in the family. Key Highlights & Discussion Points 1. The "Father Factor" (Spiritual Leadership) The Powerful Statistic: Brian and Heather discuss research indicating that if a father attends church regularly, 2/3 to 3/4 of children will remain regular churchgoers, regardless of the mother's attendance. Leading by Example: A father isn't just a "sender" of his family to church; he is the navigator. When the husband doesn't show up, the kids often see faith as optional. 2. Agape Love: Love as a Verb Unconditional Love: Ephesians 5:25 calls husbands to love as Christ loved the church. This isn't a feeling; it's a choice. The "What Can I Chop?" Moment: Heather shares how Brian shows love by simply walking into the kitchen and asking how he can help with dinner, breaking the "women's work vs. men's work" stereotype. 3. Communicating with Wisdom The Choice in Conflict: Brian discusses the split-second decision when a "button" is pushed: Do you blow up in anger, or do you choose a gentle answer (Proverbs 15:1)? Historical vs. Hysterical: Referencing researcher John Gottman, Brian explains that if a reaction is "hysterical," there is likely a "historical" root. Open communication about past triggers can prevent future blow-ups. 4. Providing vs. Calamity (Burdens vs. Loads) The Career Pivot: Brian shares a vulnerable story about leaving his corporate job to become a counselor, which eliminated 2/3 of the family income for three years. Distinguishing the Two: * Burdens: Unexpected trials (sickness, layoffs, AI displacement) where you need help. Loads: A pattern of idleness or refusing to take responsibility. Encouragement for the Struggling: Heather reminds husbands that if you are working hard toward a goal or a calling, you are still a provider, even if the bank account doesn't reflect it yet. 5. The "Mother" Trigger The Fork in the Road: Brian admits that when Heather gives him advice, he sometimes views her as a "mothering" figure rather than a partner. Changing the Lens: He encourages men to see their wife's input as an act of love and care rather than a loss of autonomy. Quotes to Remember "If you're hysterical, it's probably historical. There's something built up there that needs to be talked about." — Brian "Venting landing on your spouse is like a big pile of... well, you know... landing on the person you love." — Brian "Don't be the husband who just sends his family to church. Be the one who leads them there." — Heather Scripture References Ephesians 5:25: Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church. Ephesians 5:21-24: Submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ. Proverbs 15:1: A gentle answer turns away wrath. 1 Timothy 5:8: Providing for your own household. Colossians 3:13-14: Bear with each other and forgive. Reflect & Apply The Cave Check: Are you retreating into hobbies (video games, the garage, work) to avoid the responsibility of being present with your family? The Spiritual Lead: If you've been letting your wife handle the spiritual growth of the kids, what is one small step you can take this Sunday to lead? The Kitchen Test: Next time you see your spouse working on a task, don't ask "Do you need help?" (which implies it's her job). Instead, pick up a tool and say, "I'm here, what can I do?" Connect with Us Website: LoveHowDeep.com Newsletter: Sign up for Heather's monthly update for marriage tips and free resources!

    20 min
  7. 123: Am I Measuring Up as a Wife? The Proverbs 31 Standard

    Mar 18

    123: Am I Measuring Up as a Wife? The Proverbs 31 Standard

    Episode Title: Am I Measuring Up as a Wife? The Proverbs 31 Standard Podcast: Love How Deep Hosts: Heather & Brian Episode Summary: Does the Proverbs 31 woman make you feel "about an inch tall"? You aren't alone. In this episode, Heather and Brian dive into the famous (and often exhausting) biblical standard for wives. Heather shares how modern women are juggling a "12-lane highway" of responsibilities and offers a permission slip to stop trying to do it all. Learn why "less is more," how to recognize when a season is over, and why the joy of the Lord is your ultimate battery pack for daily life. Key Highlights & Discussion Points 1. The Exhaustion of "Superwoman" The List: Heather reads through Proverbs 31:10–31. We see a woman who weaves, plants vineyards, trades profitably, feeds everyone, and never seems to sleep. The Modern Translation: Today's "Proverbs 31" woman is chauffeuring kids, working a 9-to-5, leading ministries, maintaining a social life, and trying to keep dinner on the table. The Result: Anxiety, health issues, and a "cycle of shame" when we can't keep all the balls in the air. 2. The Season of "No" Ecclesiastes 3:1: There is a season for every activity. Heather explains that just because something is good doesn't mean it's for now. Heather's Personal Transition: Heather shares a vulnerable story about the Holy Spirit telling her to step down from the worship team—something she loved for years. Pruning for Growth: Stepping down wasn't a loss of purpose; it was "clearing the way" so she had the capacity to lead a women's Bible study, which has become her new passion. 3. Joy as Helium The Balloon Metaphor: Brian compares the joy of the Lord to helium. Regular air keeps the balloon on the floor, but helium (joy) carries you to heights you couldn't reach on your own. Nehemiah 8:10: "The joy of the Lord is your strength." Joy isn't just a feeling; it's the emotional strength required to face a busy day. The Atmosphere of the Home: Your family can sense your "short-tempered nature" when you're overwhelmed. Taking stock of your joy isn't just for you—it's for the health of your marriage and kids. 4. Wisdom of the Tongue Kindness over Correctness: Brian points out that while your critiques might be true, they must be delivered with kindness. The Power of Encouragement: When we clear the mental space by letting go of unnecessary tasks, we have more room to be a voice of encouragement for our spouses and coworkers. Quotes to Remember "Ladies, we're not called to do it all. Evaluate why you do the things you do... is it a season to step away?" — Heather "Women have a 12-lane highway going on and they're trying to be in all the lanes at once... it leads to a cycle of shame and guilt." — Brian "I thought God just ripped my arm off... but He needed to prune something away so new growth could happen." — Heather (on stepping down from worship) Scripture References Proverbs 31:10–31: The Wife of Noble Character. Ecclesiastes 3:1: A season for everything. Philippians 4:4: Rejoice in the Lord always. Nehemiah 8:10: The joy of the Lord is your strength. 1 Thessalonians 5:16–18: Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks. Reflect & Apply The To-Do Audit: Make a list of everything you are currently "juggling." Circle the things you do out of obligation or pride rather than calling. The Capacity Check: Do you have the mental "margin" to be kind to your family? If not, what can be removed this week? The Power of No: Practice saying "No, this isn't the time for that" without giving a long dissertation of excuses. Connect with Us Resources & More: Visit LoveHowDeep.com Bible Study: Join the conversation on the names of God and finding your Jehovah Tsidkenu.

    25 min
  8. 122: Peeling Away the Layers in Life and Love

    Mar 11

    122: Peeling Away the Layers in Life and Love

    Episode Title: Peeling Away the Layers in Life and Love Podcast: Love How Deep Hosts: Heather & Brian Episode Summary: A cold winter drive and a vibrant blue sky led Heather to a "Google rabbit hole" about a mysterious white tree. In this episode, Brian and Heather explore the American Sycamore and why its peeling bark is the perfect metaphor for how God works in our lives and marriages. From "armor" that protects us to "scabs" that need to fall away for healing, this conversation is about the beauty of becoming "white as snow" through the process of spiritual shedding. Key Highlights & Discussion Points 1. The Mystery of the White Tree The American Sycamore: Heather describes the striking contrast of a bone-white tree against a deep blue winter sky. The Peeling Process: Unlike most trees, the Sycamore sheds its older, brown-gray bark to reveal a fresh, white layer underneath. It's a natural process of growth and renewal. 2. Protective Layers vs. Hardened Armor The Purpose of Bark: Just as bark protects a tree's tender interior, we develop layers to protect ourselves from being hurt. When Protection Becomes a Prison: Heather opens up about her own history of wearing "armor" that initially kept her safe but eventually became a barrier to intimacy and trust, even with Brian. The Scab Analogy: Brian notes that while a scab (or a layer of bark) is necessary for a season of healing, there comes a point where it must fall away to allow for full restoration. 3. Jehovah Tsidkenu: The Lord Our Righteousness Washed Clean: Heather shares from her Bible study on the names of God. Jehovah Tsidkenu reminds us that God is the one who makes us righteous and pure. White as Snow: As we submit to God, He peels away the "dirty" layers of bitterness, sin, and habit to reveal the new creation underneath. 4. The Roller Coaster of Faith Letting Go of the Bar: Brian compares the process of letting go of our protective layers to riding a roller coaster. We often want to white-knuckle the safety bar, but the real joy comes when we raise our hands and trust the ride. One Layer at a Time: Growth doesn't happen all at once. Like the Sycamore, we shed our layers bit by bit as we grow in diameter and spiritual depth. Quotes to Remember "That white is the new fresh bark coming out... it represents us. When we accept Christ, we are made clean and washed white as snow." — Heather "Sometimes as human beings, we have that protective layer or the armor... but at some point, the scab needs to fall away." — Brian "God knows we're covered in layers. He wants to peel us like the tree... because what He has for you is so much better than what you're holding onto." — Heather Scripture & Study Roots Jehovah Tsidkenu: The Lord Our Righteousness. Psalm 51:10: "Create in me a clean heart, O God." Psalm 139:23: "Search me, O God, and know my heart." Reflect & Apply What "layer" of armor are you holding onto that might be preventing you from growing closer to your spouse or to God? Ask God this week: "Is there a piece of 'bark' I'm ready to let fall to the ground?" Connect with Us Watch Heather's Full Story: Check out Episode 49 for the deep dive into Heather's testimony. Website: LoveHowDeep.com Join the Conversation: Have you seen an American Sycamore? Tag us in your photos!

    13 min
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Love How Deep is a podcast designed to equip married couples like you with resources that rely on the transformative power of God's Word to strengthen your relationship. The hosts, Brian & Heather Mayer desire is to connect couples more deeply to each other. They do this by offering episode content that can help couples communicate better, resolve conflict, understand each other more, tackle roles and responsbilities, parent in better ways, control their finances more, and increase emotional, mental, physical, and spiritual parts of their lives. Engaging guests from married couples, pastors, therapists, authors, and other experts in the field offer great advice.

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