DIB Innovators

RADICL

The DIB Innovators podcast celebrates the brilliant minds behind innovation within the Defense Industrial Base. In each episode, host and co-founder of RADICL, David Graff will speak with DIB leaders who are driving technological advancements, championing our nation’s security, and shaping the future of defense technology. Brought to you by RADICL — Cybersecurity-as-a-Service purpose-built for small and mid-sized businesses in the Defense Industrial Base. Starting your CMMC journey? RADICL guides and accelerates your compliance—while reducing ransomware and other cyber risks—with a transparent, turn-key solution. www.radicl.com/cmmc_solved

  1. EP 100 — Outlander VC's Paige Craig On Funding Defense's Black Sheep Before Anyone Else Will

    4d ago

    EP 100 — Outlander VC's Paige Craig On Funding Defense's Black Sheep Before Anyone Else Will

    Paige Craig built his first company by sneaking into Baghdad as a private citizen with a fake CNN badge, no government backing, and no contacts, starting with a $5,000 DARPA task and scaling to a $30M program within months. He sold that company and took everything he learned about operating in chaos into Outlander VC, where he writes the first check into founders before revenue, customers, or a real business model exists. His 38-principle framework for evaluating founders, developed after conversations with roughly 4,000 of them, is how he consistently finds the people tier-one funds pass on and turns them into multibillion-dollar outcomes  Paige is a former Marine intel officer who built a private military company from scratch in a war zone, and he now invests at a stage most VCs won't touch. His views on what makes founders succeed and what most investors get wrong are grounded in a track record most people in this space will never have. Topics discussed: The 38-principle founder evaluation framework across vision, intelligence, character, and execution Why character and perseverance outrank strategy, speed, and technical ability at pre-seed Fast execution loops as a primary investment signal before any revenue exists Why pedigree is a poor predictor and how non-standard founders generate outsized returns The veteran founder trap: command-and-control conditioning versus self-directed leadership Why pitch decks and financial forecasts are useless signals at formation stage Pushing defense contract authority to unit level as a fix for the valley of death Unmanned ground vehicles as the most underfunded category in defense tech right now Listen to more episodes:  Apple  Spotify  YouTube Website

    44 min
  2. EP 99 — AI Strategy Corporation's David Mroczka On Cutting U.S. Army Tech Scouting From 12 Months To 2 Weeks

    May 28

    EP 99 — AI Strategy Corporation's David Mroczka On Cutting U.S. Army Tech Scouting From 12 Months To 2 Weeks

    What does it take to scout 150 dual-use companies for the U.S. Army in six months when the existing process takes 10 to 12 months for a fraction of that volume? David Mroczka built the platform that did it, and the numbers are hard to argue with. 94% acceleration, 96% cost savings, and an eightfold lift on a process that fails 80 to 90 percent of the time. David Mroczka, Founder and CEO of AI Strategy Corporation, tells Dave how his time running the country's largest privately-owned test lab, where his team ran over 15,000 programs in seven years, taught him exactly how technologies die in the valley of death. The fix became 9-HI™, a human-first AI platform that profiles a company across three dimensions of risk, the product, the team, and the market application. Most defense tech founders only understand one third of that problem set. Topics discussed: Six-month U.S. Army demonstration that scouted 150 companies with 94% acceleration and 96% cost savings Cutting tech assessment cycles from 10-12 months down to under two weeks Why technology is only one third of the risk in a defense startup The three-axis 9-HI™ model of product, team of stakeholders, and market application Lessons from running 15,000 defense test programs at the largest private test lab in the U.S. Why 85-90% of corporate AI deployments fail to hit ROI The "human intelligence" design choice behind not automating decisions away Building a marketplace and lead-investor fund on top of 150 profiled companies Working around government shutdowns, continuing resolutions, and OTAs not aligned to progress

    33 min
  3. EP 98 — AimLock's Bryan Bockmon on Keeping Humans in the Kill Decision While Automating the Rest

    May 21

    EP 98 — AimLock's Bryan Bockmon on Keeping Humans in the Kill Decision While Automating the Rest

    The Keystone fire control module is weapon-agnostic from day one. Bryan Bockmon, CEO, President, & Chairman of AimLock, describes how the same edge computing system that directs a machine gun can be reconfigured for missiles, grenades, or lasers by rotating out effectors without rebuilding the platform. That modularity is a direct response to an increasingly common battlefield reality: adversaries iterate faster than any requirements-based acquisition process can respond, and single-purpose systems are obsolete before they're fielded. Bryan also breaks down how AimLock used OTAs to compress the gap between prototype and deployable capability, why he believes the requirements-based procurement process will never work again, and what it actually costs in time and credibility to build defense tech a decade before the funded demand signal exists to support it.  Topics discussed: Designing modular fire control systems that swap effectors and sensors to avoid obsolescence across evolving threat environments Automating target acquisition and engagement with human operators retained in the kill-decision loop Using other transaction authorities OTAs to prototype and test lethal systems outside standard federal acquisition regulations Building defense tech a decade ahead of the funded demand signal and the timing risk that creates Why single-purpose weapon systems fail against adversaries who iterate faster than requirements-based procurement can respond Contrasting small business iteration speed with large prime bureaucracy and the collaboration model that bridges them The counter-drone threat as an economic and tactical inflection point reshaping short-range air defense doctrine Why the requirements-based procurement process is no longer viable and what replaces it in practice

    38 min
  4. EP 97 — Teague's Matt McElvogue on Why Operators Stop Trusting the Tech & Start Working Around It

    May 12

    EP 97 — Teague's Matt McElvogue on Why Operators Stop Trusting the Tech & Start Working Around It

    Matt McElvogue, VP of Design at Teague, doesn't talk about design as a polish layer. He talks about it as a mission-critical failure point. His clearest example: a $5,000 tactical device used by JTAC operators for calling in 9-line bombing runs, where zeroizing the device was buried so deep in the menu that soldiers in the field resorted to shooting it or blowing it up. That failure isn't a UX anecdote; it's the operational cost of ignoring the experience layer.  Matt lays out how AI and autonomous systems are now forcing a fundamental rethink of that layer, specifically the shift from in-the-loop to on-the-loop decision-making, and the three trust requirements every autonomous system interface must satisfy: legibility, predictability, and recoverability. He also describes a coming design challenge that has no precedent, which is building interface components for AI systems that will dynamically assemble the UX themselves, in real time, based on individual context.  Topics discussed: How AI and autonomy are shifting military operators from in-the-loop to on-the-loop as threat volumes scale  The three trust requirements for autonomous system UI design: legibility, predictability, and recoverability Working with early-stage defense companies before contracts arrive and how early design involvement shapes technical requirements  AI systems that dynamically assemble their own UX, requiring designers to build components for experiences they can’t fully predict How procurement decision-makers who grew up with iPhones are raising the bar for defense technology usability Why trust erosion from poor interface design is effectively irreversible so the military ends up with expensive equipment operators work around

    43 min
  5. EP 96 — Patriot Group's David Dickey on When Defense Tech Startups Can't Hire Fast Enough to Scale

    Apr 30

    EP 96 — Patriot Group's David Dickey on When Defense Tech Startups Can't Hire Fast Enough to Scale

    David Dickey, CEO, Founder, & Executive Search Consultant of Patriot Group, has seen it happen: an executive placed into a PE-backed defense company and a year later, the firm was contracting operations and pushing to sell. It wasn’t because of the market, but because the hire who looked great on paper couldn't actually lead. David has founded and exited aerospace and defense companies before starting Patriot Group, and watched that pattern repeat enough times that he built his entire process around preventing it.  He walks through the Patriot Method, which focuses on the “p” being for “planning.” He also reflects on how most job descriptions are laundry lists that have to be torn apart before a search can even begin, how a scorecard keeps hiring teams from getting charmed by a good talker, and why running the same questions through the candidate, the brief, and the reference check is the only way to build real signal on something as hard to fake as leadership under pressure.  Topics discussed: Using scorecards and structured job description reviews to eliminate "laundry list" hiring and focus searches on actual requirements Navigating the talent gap facing defense tech startups competing for the same senior candidates from high-logo companies Screening executive candidates for AI fluency through scenario questions, written questionnaires, and reference checks Identifying what separates high-impact defense executives from candidates who perform well in interviews but fail in the seat Why senior military operators face a harder transition into defense tech executive roles than technical veterans How the Patriot Method (planning, scorecards, submission packages, and communication) reduces offer-stage surprises and failed placements How competitive comp, defined growth path, and a differentiated story drives top defense tech talent to leave established companies Why founders cannot delegate accountability for culture to a head of people and what happens to companies that do

    45 min
  6. EP 95 — Sagittarius Logistics' Jonathan Slavik on Payload Handoffs in Hours, Not Months

    Apr 23

    EP 95 — Sagittarius Logistics' Jonathan Slavik on Payload Handoffs in Hours, Not Months

    Coastal launch infrastructure is a strategic chokepoint that is one EW disruption off the Cape grounds US space ops, and bespoke responsive launch systems top out at a magazine depth of three. Jonathan Slavik, Co-Founder & CEO of Sagittarius Logistics, is building the orbital launch company incumbents structurally cannot become: designed from day one for payload handoffs measured in hours, non-destructive abort capability that unlocks inland and distributed launch, and an airline-model operations stack that gives the DOD unlimited reconstitution depth by stepping directly into a commercial flow already running at daily cadence. Jonathan walks through the technical architecture and the FAA regulatory roadmap for over-land launch.  Topics discussed: Why commercially-driven space companies require market-responsive launch timelines that existing providers structurally cannot offer How non-destructive abort capability eliminates months-long payload acceptance testing and enables FAA approval for inland over-land launch routes The airline model for launch operations: swapping vehicles without delaying payloads and scheduling days or weeks out instead of years Why incumbent launch providers are locked out of this market by prior design decisions and an incompatible business model National security case for distributed inland launch: eliminating coastal single points of failure and replacing bespoke warehouse-stored rockets  Revenue-first company building strategy: subscale hovering rocket vehicles generating early revenue Human-on-the-loop ML architecture: 30-40 simultaneous sensor data streams used to detect anomalies before they require vehicle recovery How a commercial procurement mindset benefits DOD by matching real mission requirements to available commercial capabilities

    44 min
  7. EP 93 — Atlas Cup's Philip Hover-Smoot on Building Capital Pathways Outside Government Funds

    Apr 9

    EP 93 — Atlas Cup's Philip Hover-Smoot on Building Capital Pathways Outside Government Funds

    There are roughly 438 companies building propulsion systems for space right now. Nobody knows which ones actually perform. Philip Hover Smoot, CEO of Atlas Cup, is building a model to fix that, one that creates a capital pathway outside traditional defense funding, a proving ground for real on-orbit performance, and a non-government revenue stream for companies that need to survive long enough to win. Atlas Cup's model doesn't ask anyone to build new hardware. It draws ruleset boundaries around satellites already in orbit at the end of their primary mission. These assets have propulsion still in the tank, licensing already paid, operators already covering TTNC and orbital maintenance. Those assets become a performance stage instead of a sunk cost. The data generated maps directly to what Space Systems Command is looking for, and for DIB contractors who need a credible commerciality plan, it may be one of the only honest answers available.  Topics discussed: Turning end-of-mission satellite assets into a competitive racing ecosystem Why over 400 propulsion companies exist but no one knows who's actually best The dual-use case for Atlas Cup within DOD acquisition and commerciality requirements Designing a league structure that externalizes every regulatory and licensing burden Building toward a 2028 Grand Prix with chemical propulsion and university class divisions How racing data, like maneuverability, pointing, and tracking maps directly to Space Force requirements Why SBIR-dependent space companies need non-government revenue to survive The fan experience challenge: visualizations, immersive venues, and short-format content distribution What professional racing did for automotive and why space needs the same forcing function Space domain awareness classification and why open competitive data changes the equation

    52 min

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The DIB Innovators podcast celebrates the brilliant minds behind innovation within the Defense Industrial Base. In each episode, host and co-founder of RADICL, David Graff will speak with DIB leaders who are driving technological advancements, championing our nation’s security, and shaping the future of defense technology. Brought to you by RADICL — Cybersecurity-as-a-Service purpose-built for small and mid-sized businesses in the Defense Industrial Base. Starting your CMMC journey? RADICL guides and accelerates your compliance—while reducing ransomware and other cyber risks—with a transparent, turn-key solution. www.radicl.com/cmmc_solved

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