In this episode of In the Field: The ABA Podcast, I sit down with Bryan Tanner, BCBA, and owner of Leadership Mindset Coaching, to walk through his path from behavior technician to BCBA® business owner to somatic executive coach. Bryan reflects on the leadership lessons he gathered (and slowly unlearned) along the way, including how a "distant and professional" approach to leadership gradually left him more isolated and, over time, took a real toll on his connections, his business, and his life outside of work. We talk about why stress lives in the body long before we notice it, how self-reflection is a skill most leaders were never taught, and what it actually took to build an agency with 0% turnover. Bryan also walks through his PACT framework for building stronger supervisory relationships. Key Topics: Leadership as Behavior, Not Distance: Why Bryan's early definition of professionalism (staying above it all) led to isolation, stress, and burnout, and what changed when he redefined it. Retaking the Assessment: How six years of focusing on one goal let everything else drift, and why leaders should reassess themselves as often as they reassess clients. The Somatic Side of Stress: Recognizing what the body is signaling (a back that "goes out," a tightening throat, a clenched jaw) and building quick, usable tools to regulate the nervous system in the moment. Self-Reflection for Leaders: Why practitioners trained to analyze everyone else's behavior often struggle to turn that lens on themselves, and the power of asking "What is blocking me?" Values, Alignment, and Intention: How knowing your values prevents conflict, shame, and reactive anger, and why the gap between your actions and your values is where stress comes from. Fear vs. Skill in Marketing: Untangling genuine discomfort from real values-based boundaries, and noticing when reinforcement and shaping are already at work. Building 0% Turnover: The concrete moves behind an agency with zero turnover, including structural support, fair compensation, leadership growth paths, involving staff in decisions, and a simple rule to be nice to each other. The PACT Framework: A four-step approach (Pregame, Assess, Consequence, Transform) for building the supervisory relationship in a mindful, intentional way, and reclaiming the word "transform" for behavior analysis. Key Takeaways: Leadership is a skill that can be taught, and distance is not the same as professionalism.Stress registers in the body first; noticing those signals early is a trainable, valuable repertoire.Leaders benefit from analyzing their own behavior, not just their clients', and from asking what is blocking them.Clarity about your values and goals is what keeps actions intentional and reduces avoidable stress.Retention is built through everyday systems: support, fair pay, growth pathways, shared decisions, and genuine care.Keywords: Leadership, Somatic Coaching, Executive Coaching, Stress Management, Burnout, Self-Reflection, Values Alignment, Supervision, PACT Framework, Turnover, RBT® Retention, Leadership Circle Profile, Early Start Denver Model, Bryan Tanner, Leadership Mindset Coaching, ABA Leadership, BCBA® Supervision Resources Mentioned: Leadership Scorecard: bryantannercoach.com/scorecardA brief assessment that supports executives in discovering which area of work would create the most powerful results in their leadership and business.The PACT Framework for Podcast Listeners: bryantannercoach.com/inthefield A site made specifically for In the Field listeners, sharing the PACT framework to support effective and stress-free supervision. The Pre-Game worksheet is also available for delivery straight to your inbox, to make every supervision meeting focused and smooth, while also full of clarity, efficiency, and effectiveness.Connect with Bryan Tanner and Leadership Mindset Coaching: Website: myleadershipmindset.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/bryantannerofficialFacebook: facebook.com/bryantannerofficialDisclaimer: BCBA®, BACB® [or any other BACB® trademark used] is/are registered to the Behavior Analytic Certification Board® BACB®. This website and products are not in any way sponsored by the BACB®. All information and products are for educational purposes only.