The Discomfort Zone

Anna Levesque

Do you feel called toward something bigger — a dream, adventure, or purpose — but fear keeps holding you back? Welcome to The Discomfort Zone — the outdoor, mindset, and leadership podcast where courage meets the edge. Every Tuesday, host Anna Levesque — world-class whitewater kayaker, World Championship medalist, author, and mental agility coach — dives into raw, real conversations with paddlers, athletes, leaders, adventurers, and purpose-driven humans who choose growth over comfort. From powerful stories on wild rivers and mountain trails to navigating major life transitions, these conversations explore what it truly takes to face fear, build confidence, and find your flow — on and off the water. You'll hear: Stories from whitewater kayakers + outdoor athletes pushing their edge Insights from guides, coaches, and leaders creating impact in their fields Practical mental-agility + leadership tools you can use right away Lessons from expeditions, competition, and personal transformation How to navigate the discomfort that fuels growth, courage, and purpose Whether you're a paddler, outdoor enthusiast, emerging leader, or someone seeking more courage in everyday life, you'll walk away with practical tools to strengthen resilience, show up with confidence, and embrace the adventure of being alive. If you're ready to stop playing small and start living boldly, you're in the right zone.

  1. Ep #106 Grit Over Talent: Resilience, Risk, and Paddling Hard Stuff with Mariann Sæther

    4D AGO

    Ep #106 Grit Over Talent: Resilience, Risk, and Paddling Hard Stuff with Mariann Sæther

    Ask Mariann Sæther what got her to two world championships, and she won't say talent. Mariann is a two-time world champion in extreme kayaking, a mother of two, and one of the most accomplished women in whitewater history. She retired from competition in 2024 after nearly three decades of paddling rivers around the world. In this conversation, Mariann and Anna dig into what it actually takes to perform at the highest level, navigate real risk, and keep showing up when it's not working. From getting flipped repeatedly down Jakes at 3,000 CFS two days before winning the North Fork Championship, to learning to separate a failed line from a failed identity, Mariann brings a rare mix of honesty, humor, and hard-won insight. In this episode, you'll explore: Why grit and hard work matter more than talent, and how to stop letting the "talent story" hold you back The difference between scared and nervous, and how that distinction shapes good risk decisions Why leading the rapid changes everything for women building confidence on whitewater How to stay useful, engaged, and growth-oriented when you choose to walk a line What pioneering women in whitewater built, and why their stories deserve to be remembered Mariann's approach to breaking big goals into small pieces, from horse training to creek boating If you've ever told yourself you just don't have what it takes, this episode is a direct and generous challenge to that story. 🌊 Once a river person, always a river person. 🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

    1 hr
  2. Ep #105 From Cancer Diagnosis to the Grand Canyon: How Laura Kurup Found Her Flow

    MAR 24

    Ep #105 From Cancer Diagnosis to the Grand Canyon: How Laura Kurup Found Her Flow

    What does it take to rebuild a life around what you actually love — not what looks impressive from the outside? Laura Kurup spent years as a high-performing tech executive — Chief Strategy Officer at the SEC, Chief Data Officer at the New York Fed — and somewhere along the way, paddling took a backseat. Then came a rare and aggressive breast cancer diagnosis at 40. What followed was a two-year unraveling and rebuilding that led her back to the river, into whitewater instruction, and toward a life anchored in her own intuition. In this episode, Laura and Anna explore what it really means to face discomfort — not just the dramatic kind, but the low-level stuff we spend enormous energy ignoring. Laura shares how cancer cracked open the identity she'd been clinging to, why letting go of control on the Grand Canyon led to better lines, and what she's learned about expanding her window of tolerance — on the water and in life. In this episode, you'll explore: Why high performers often ignore discomfort until it becomes a five-alarm fire — and how to work with it at lower levels instead The mental shift that transformed Laura's lines on the Grand Canyon: from controlling the plan to reading and running How identity attachment (like being "the canoeist who doesn't flip") can quietly limit your growth What a cancer diagnosis revealed about the difference between performing a life and actually living one Laura's take on using AI intentionally — and why she compares it to ketchup The river metaphor she brought home from the Grand: following the bubble line If you've ever pushed discomfort down until it exploded, played it too safe and ended up stuck on the rocks, or wondered what life might look like if you gave yourself permission to follow your intuition — this episode is for you. The river gives you a put-in and a take-out. How you run it is up to you. 🎧 Listen now and find your bubble line.

    56 min
  3. Ep #103 Tyler Curtis on Modeling Courage and Why Passion Matters

    MAR 10

    Ep #103 Tyler Curtis on Modeling Courage and Why Passion Matters

    You've felt that edge before — the moment between staying in the eddy and peeling out into the current. In this episode of The Discomfort Zone Podcast, I sit down with world-class kayaker, coach, and avalanche specialist Tyler Curtis to explore what it really means to lean into uncertainty — on the river and in life. From freestyle kayaking and youth coaching, to living abroad and learning a new language, Tyler shares how following his passion shaped not just his career, but his resilience, confidence, and leadership. We talk about how fear evolves, how risk tolerance changes over time, and why modeling failure as a coach builds real trust. This conversation blends whitewater wisdom with practical mindset tools you can apply immediately — whether you're challenging yourself to run harder rivers, leading others, or navigating uncertainty in your everyday life. In this episode, you'll explore: How to tell the difference between real danger and the stories your mind creates Why modeling failure builds trust, confidence, and stronger coaching relationships How freestyle kayaking develops resilience and mental agility under pressure What youth athletes can teach us about courage and pushing comfort zones Why following your passion builds transferable life skills — from leadership to risk management If you care about building courage — in yourself or in the people you lead — this episode will change how you think about fear and growth. 🎧 Listen now to explore how passion becomes discipline, skill, and leadership.

    50 min
  4. Ep #102 Confidence Under Pressure with Matt Hamilton

    MAR 3

    Ep #102 Confidence Under Pressure with Matt Hamilton

    What do you do when the pressure is on, and you don't have the answer? In this episode of The Discomfort Zone Podcast, I sit down with longtime paddler, freestyle competitor, and squirt boater Matt Hamilton to explore what real composure looks like in high-stakes environments. As a paramedic and ski patroller, Matt regularly operates where the margin for error is razor thin. On the water, he's spent decades river running, paddling freestyle, and chasing deep mystery moves. Across both worlds, he's learned that confidence isn't about eliminating stress — it's about staying effective within it. We talk about breathwork, repetition, aging in sport, the evolution of professional kayaking, and why variety and play are essential for long-term resilience. This conversation is about more than kayaking. It's about learning to zoom out, reset your nervous system, and keep moving forward — especially when you feel stumped. In This Episode, You'll Learn: Why composure means effectiveness under stress — not calm conditions How repetition and experience build real confidence over time What to do when you feel stuck or overwhelmed How play, community, and longevity shape resilience Why staying in the sport doesn't require chasing the latest tricks If you want to build resilience, confidence, and mental agility — on the river and in life — this episode is for you. 🎧 Listen now and explore what becomes possible when you stay grounded under pressure.

    45 min
  5. Ep #101 Polar Expeditions, Resilience & Real Confidence with Jon Fearne

    FEB 24

    Ep #101 Polar Expeditions, Resilience & Real Confidence with Jon Fearne

    What do polar expeditions have to teach you about conserving energy, building resilience, and showing up with real confidence? In this episode of The Discomfort Zone, Anna sits down with endurance performance coach Jon Fearne, who has trained record breaking solo polar explorers, Atlantic rowers, and elite endurance athletes for nearly 30 years. This conversation isn't about heroics. It's about what builds real confidence and resilience day after day, and it's probably not what you think. They explore: Why routine reduces mental strain and builds resilience How small energy leaks — not big mistakes — cause failure How to train your nervous system for high-stress environments The psychology of solo adventure What failure really teaches you Why waiting for perfect conditions keeps you stuck Jon shares the unfiltered truth about elite performance: it's not built in heroic moments. It's built in daily discipline. If you've been waiting for ideal conditions before taking action — this episode is your reminder: Confidence comes from preparation. And preparation happens in the mundane. 🎧 Listen now and learn how to conserve energy, build resilience, and paddle with real confidence. About Jon Jon Fearne is an adventure performance coach who has worked with 1000's of endurance athletes all over the world from Atlantic Rowers to Record breaking Polar athletes, and multiple world endurance MTB riders. He's worked in the endurance and adventure industry for 29 years, starting out as an Outdoor education instructor in surf and kayaking, and then studied Sports Science, co-writing a MSc Athlete development and peak performance. He runs an endurance coaching business called E3C, and his passions include time with family and being in the mountains on skis.

    57 min
  6. Ep #100 From Eddy to Action: The Courage Behind 100 Episodes

    FEB 17

    Ep #100 From Eddy to Action: The Courage Behind 100 Episodes

    This is the 100th episode of The Discomfort Zone Podcast — and it almost never happened. In this solo milestone episode, Anna reflects on the journey from sitting on the idea of a podcast for years to surpassing 50,000 downloads — and the single insight that finally helped her take the leap. That insight came from one paragraph in Hidden Potential by Adam Grant, where he describes three kinds of courage that accelerate growth: The courage to abandon your tried-and-true methods The courage to step into the ring before you feel ready The courage to make more mistakes than others make attempts Through stories from whitewater kayaking, launching her first instructional DVD for women, and navigating the fear of publishing a podcast, Anna shares how leaning into discomfort shaped not only her career — but her life. In this episode, you'll explore: Why discomfort is the gateway to growth How to peel out of your "eddy" and take action Why mistakes are essential for mastery How paddling mirrors the way we show up in life Reflection questions to help you move toward what matters most If you've ever felt stuck, hesitant, or unsure whether you're ready, this episode is your reminder that growth starts exactly there. The river doesn't wait for you to feel ready. You peel out of the eddy anyway. And that's where transformation happens. 🌊 Reflection Questions from This Episode Where in your life can you abandon your tried-and-true methods? Where can you step into the ring before you feel ready? Where can you make more mistakes than others make attempts? 🎧Listen now, and peel out toward what matters — even if you don't feel ready yet.

    17 min
  7. Ep #99 From Survival to Choice with Lauren Byrd

    FEB 10

    Ep #99 From Survival to Choice with Lauren Byrd

    What if the river could teach you how to stay alive — and how to truly live? In this powerful episode of The Discomfort Zone, I sit down with Lauren Byrd — combat veteran, whitewater kayaker, and creator of PaddleCalendar — for an honest, courageous conversation about fear, grounding, and finding your way back to yourself through paddling. Lauren shares how kayaking became more than a sport — it became a lifeline. From learning to regulate her nervous system in an eddy before a rapid, to discovering the profound boat–body–head connection, Lauren walks us through how river skills translated directly into life-saving mental agility. We talk about: How grounding practices finally made sense — not in a classroom, but on the river Using eddies as a metaphor for pausing, breathing, and resetting in life Starting whitewater kayaking as an adult (in her late 30s) — and going all in Competing on the world stage without comparison or perfectionism Why being in the boat matters more than the outcome How playboating, presence, and progression helped shift suicidal thoughts into a desire to live This episode is for paddlers, adventurers, and anyone navigating fear, overwhelm, or big life transitions. You don't need to be running Class V to learn from the river — sometimes the most important work happens in the eddy. If you've ever felt stuck on the shore of your own life, this conversation is an invitation to get back in the boat, trust your process, and paddle forward — one intentional moment at a time. 🎧 Listen in and let the river remind you what's possible — on and off the water.

    45 min
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About

Do you feel called toward something bigger — a dream, adventure, or purpose — but fear keeps holding you back? Welcome to The Discomfort Zone — the outdoor, mindset, and leadership podcast where courage meets the edge. Every Tuesday, host Anna Levesque — world-class whitewater kayaker, World Championship medalist, author, and mental agility coach — dives into raw, real conversations with paddlers, athletes, leaders, adventurers, and purpose-driven humans who choose growth over comfort. From powerful stories on wild rivers and mountain trails to navigating major life transitions, these conversations explore what it truly takes to face fear, build confidence, and find your flow — on and off the water. You'll hear: Stories from whitewater kayakers + outdoor athletes pushing their edge Insights from guides, coaches, and leaders creating impact in their fields Practical mental-agility + leadership tools you can use right away Lessons from expeditions, competition, and personal transformation How to navigate the discomfort that fuels growth, courage, and purpose Whether you're a paddler, outdoor enthusiast, emerging leader, or someone seeking more courage in everyday life, you'll walk away with practical tools to strengthen resilience, show up with confidence, and embrace the adventure of being alive. If you're ready to stop playing small and start living boldly, you're in the right zone.

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