Don't Be Caged By Your Age | Pro Aging Podcast

Ande Lyons

Looking for inspiration and practical advice on aging well? Don't Be Caged By Your Age is a positive aging podcast featuring conversations with older adults who are thriving after 65. Explore healthy aging, longevity, retirement, purpose, wellness, technology, entrepreneurship, relationships, and the many ways people create meaningful lives as they grow older. 

  1. 1d ago

    EP 109 Still Traveling the World at 91

    What happens when a mother and daughter decide to see just how much of the world they can experience together? Evelyn and Natalie Kelly are Award-Winning Authors, Speakers & World Travelers who have traveled to 90 countries, visited all 50 states, written books together, and built an extraordinary mother-daughter partnership along the way. And Evelyn is 91. She's still traveling. Still writing. Still learning. Still setting goals. And she has her sights set on visiting 100 countries before she turns 100. In this fabulous conversation, Evelyn and Natalie share how a disappointing political election and a serious car accident in 1992 unexpectedly set their travel adventures in motion. What began as a mother-daughter trip to Europe became decades of exploring the world together and eventually writing books about what they've learned along the way. We talk about what makes them such good travel partners, how their differences actually strengthen their creative partnership, and why Evelyn is the “skeleton” and Natalie adds the “sizzle” when they write their books. They also share why they believe there's a big difference between being a tourist and being a traveler. For them, it's not about collecting countries or taking the perfect selfie. It's about meeting people, learning about their cultures, and discovering how much we all have in common. And then we get to the really good stuff: aging. Evelyn talks about fighting ageism in her 60s, 70s, 80s and now her 90s. Her advice? Keep your enthusiasm for life. Stay flexible. Keep learning. Stay curious. And don't put yourself in a cage because of your age. Natalie shares how her mother continues to inspire her to get out of her comfort zone, even when she'd rather sit in a chair and watch television! We also talk about traveling with mobility challenges, asking for help when you need it, and why needing a cane, walker or wheelchair doesn't have to mean giving up on travel. And Evelyn leaves us with the ultimate Pro-Aging mic-drop: “Thrive after 65, thrive after 75, thrive after 85, and I'm going to thrive after 95.” So, Pro-Ager, what are you still curious about? Where do you still want to go? And what adventure might be waiting for you simply because you're willing to say yes? Because getting older isn't the end of the story. It's another chapter, and we get to decide what we put in it. About Evelyn & Natalie Kelly Evelyn and Natalie Kelly are Award-Winning Authors, Speakers & World Travelers. Together, they have traveled to 90 countries and all 50 states and are the authors of Have a Love Affair with Travel and Have a Love Affair with the USA. Learn more about Evelyn and Natalie and their books at TravelersAtHeart.com. If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 109 Still Traveling the World at 91
  2. Sep 10

    EP 108 Let Women Age with Heidi Clements

    What happens when a woman stops trying to become who the world told her she should be... and starts becoming herself? Heidi Clements is doing exactly that. At 65, Heidi is a writer, storyteller, pro-aging advocate, fashion lover, and the wildly entertaining creator behind @welcometoheidi. Her message is bold, funny, vulnerable, and deeply liberating: Let women age. In this conversation, Heidi and I talk about radical self-love, body image, sobriety, fashion, beauty standards, the male gaze, shame, anger, aging, and what happens when you finally realize that you get to write your own rules. We also talk about why so many younger women are watching Heidi, and why her message resonates across generations. Heidi shares what she’s learned from the messy chapters of her life, why she refuses to carry shame that doesn’t belong to her, and the beautiful realization she had at 60: “I do matter. I need to matter more to me.” And toward the end, Heidi shares what she’s still learning at 65: to be kinder to herself, stop racing toward the next happy, and stop borrowing trouble from the future. “It’s a daily practice to radically love yourself, which is the only thing that will save you in this life.” 💖 Connect with Heidi Follow Heidi everywhere: @welcometoheidi Find her on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok, plus her podcast Talk 50 to Me, writing, interviews, and Let Women Age merchandise through the link in her bio. Here are the two thrifter sites she mentions: Vinted and Whatnot. If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 108 Let Women Age with Heidi Clements
  3. Sep 3

    EP 107 Your Life Experience Is Your Superpower

    What if everything you've lived through isn't something to put behind you, but something to put to work? In this delicious conversation, I chat with Julienne B. Ryan, a Communication Catalyst, speaker, author, coach, and lifelong storyteller who has built a career around helping people connect through listening, humor, curiosity, and authentic communication. Julienne's own story is fascinating. From being a shy little girl in Queens who somehow landed a Trident gum commercial, to recruiting and HR, to discovering that her real superpower was helping people see, hear, and appreciate one another, her journey is a wonderful reminder that our gifts don't always reveal themselves in the ways we expect. And then we get into the good stuff. We talk about why your stories matter, how storytelling creates bridges between generations, and why "facts and emotions equal memory." Julienne shares how she learned to stop trying to communicate like everyone else and finally own the qualities people valued most in her: showing up, making people laugh, listening, and telling stories. We also dig into something especially important for ProAgers: the stories we tell ourselves about getting older. Julienne has a wonderful challenge for us: Who's writing the script? Because those old messages - "not me," "not now," "I missed the boat," "why bother?" - can become limitations we don't even realize we've accepted. We talk about finding your voice without raising it, navigating digital distraction, why picking up the phone can save a relationship, how introverts have a tremendous communication superpower, and why being truly listened to may be one of the greatest luxuries we can give another human being. And Julienne has a simple message for anyone who thinks they aren't a storyteller: Your stories are hiding in plain sight. Your experiences, your mistakes, your triumphs, the things that lit you up, the problems you've solved, the lessons you've learned... they're all part of the wisdom you carry forward. You don't have to shrink with age. You don't have to become someone you're not. You can own your story, use your voice, build bridges, and keep contributing. Because your life experience isn't baggage. It's your superpower. Connect with Julienne: Visit J. Ryan Partners to learn more about Julienne's work, workshops, storytelling, and communication resources. And if this conversation made you think of someone whose experience, stories, or wisdom deserves to be heard, please share this episode with them. If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 107 Your Life Experience Is Your Superpower
  4. Aug 27

    EP 106 Making Friends with Emotions to Thrive After 65 with Dr. Betsy Burris

    What if the emotions we've been taught to push aside are actually trying to teach us something?  In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Betsy Burris - educator, psychotherapist, author, and podcaster - to talk about the winding path that led her from studying classical Chinese literature, to directing the Stanford Teacher Education Program, to becoming a therapist for teachers. Betsy opens up about the painful administrative experiences that pushed her toward burnout and ultimately toward her true calling. We talk about why relationships (with people and with curriculum) are the real foundation of teaching and learning, and how unlearning old survival patterns opened up her most creative and impactful decade yet. This is a conversation about listening to our students, to our emotions, and to ourselves as we age. Betsy also shares a special episode from her podcast Teaching Through Emotions. It's centered on the Vahombey Project, a school library project in the rural village of Bekitro, Madagascar. Alongside the episode, TTE is launching a fundraising campaign to support the library and its students. Please tap here to listen to the episode and tap here to learn more about the Vahombey Project. Connect with Betsy Burris: Email: betsy@teachingthroughemotions.com. You can also find Betsy on Substack and check out her book here: Teaching Through Emotions Book: The Feeling of Teaching If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 106 Making Friends with Emotions to Thrive After 65 with Dr. Betsy Burris
  5. Aug 13

    EP 105 Embrace Aging and Set Yourself Free

    Imagine waking up tomorrow without a single limiting belief about aging. That's exactly the question my guest has dedicated her life to exploring. Kat Miller is a psychotherapist, TEDx speaker, and founder of Age Freely, and she joined me from Ajijic, Mexico to talk about rewriting the cultural narrative around growing older. Kat just turned 70 this past February and told me she'd been waiting for it for three years, excited to finally claim the word "old" without hesitation. We talked about the moment her work became personal: hearing bright, capable friends describe wrinkles as inherently ugly, and realizing something didn't sit right. She credits her mom, who started a restaurant in her sixties followed by a junk shop and then interior decorating, as an early role model for aging out loud. Kat also shared the story behind her TEDx talk, a project photographing hibiscus flowers from birth to death that led her to fall in love with impermanence and see it as the design of life rather than something to resist. We dug into why ageism is unlike other isms, since with ageism we are the group being discriminated against, which makes it nearly invisible to us. Kat explained her theory that decline and expansion happen together as we age, using examples like physical energy forcing us to focus on what really matters, and cognitive speed slowing down so we can actually see the whole landscape and connect the dots better. We also talked about her Older Conversational Card Game, created with fellow psychotherapist Joannina, and how it's helped grandparents and grandchildren have conversations about life they never would have had otherwise. Kat didn't shy away from the harder topics either, sharing how making peace with death and dying is often the real starting point for aging freely, and why the anti-aging industry profits from keeping us afraid. Kat reminded me that aging isn't the problem, it's the stories we've been told about aging. We have the power to question those stories, rewrite them, and choose a path filled with purpose, curiosity, and joy. Every day is another opportunity to become more fully ourselves, not less. If this episode inspired you, share it with someone who could use a little encouragement today, because together we're changing the conversation about aging one story at a time. Connect with Kat Miller at Age Freely, where you can find her TEDx talk, her counseling work, and her Older Conversational Card Game. If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 105 Embrace Aging and Set Yourself Free
  6. Jul 23

    EP 104 Is Your Tribe Helping You Thrive After 65?

    The people around us can either expand our sense of possibility or quietly shrink our world.  Have you ever stopped to consider how much the people around you influence the way you age? In this episode I chat with Walt Hampton - attorney, executive coach, author, interfaith minister, lifelong adventurer, and mountaineer - to explore why the company we keep may be one of the biggest factors in how fully we live after 65. While healthy habits and a positive mindset certainly matter, Walt believes our "tribe" can either expand our sense of possibility or quietly shrink our world. Walt shares his remarkable journey from attorney to executive coach, from aspiring priest to interfaith minister, and from climbing four of the Seven Summits to embracing new adventures like gravel biking and backcountry skiing at age 69. Along the way, he reminds us that curiosity, courage, and a willingness to begin again are timeless qualities, not age-dependent ones. Together, we talk about how to recognize whether your social circle is helping you grow or holding you back, why it's okay to outgrow limiting beliefs (even those of lifelong friends), and how staying open to new experiences keeps life vibrant and meaningful. Walt also shares one powerful coaching question that has the potential to change your life: What would you do if you weren't afraid? Whether you're looking for your next adventure, considering a career or life pivot, or simply wondering how to create a richer, more connected life, this conversation will leave you inspired to choose possibility over limitation. Visit Walt's website here to learn more about his remarkable work in the world. If this episode inspired you, please share it with someone whose world you want to help expand. Together, let's continue aging out loud and proud and never be caged by our age. If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 104 Is Your Tribe Helping You Thrive After 65?
  7. Jul 16

    EP 103 Opening New Doors After 70

    What if the next chapter of your life is waiting behind a door you haven't opened yet? My guest, Mary Foerster, is living proof that life doesn't stop unfolding after 70 - it expands. At 75, Mary has reinvented herself time and again, building a life filled with purpose, connection, and contribution. From librarian to legislative advocate at AARP, from government affairs executive to house flipper and Realtor, from Rotary leader to podcast host, Mary's journey reminds us that we don't have to have life all figured out. Sometimes the most meaningful opportunities arrive simply because we're willing to say "yes." In our conversation, Mary shares how ballroom dancing led her to the love of her life, why community became her lifeline after retirement, what inspired her to launch Real Estate Connections at 75, and why relationships continue to open doors she never imagined. If you've ever wondered whether your best years are behind you, this episode offers a hopeful - and practical - answer.  Mary's biggest lesson? Keep every door open. You never know which one will lead to your next adventure. 🎙️ Connect with Mary Foerster Podcast: Real Estate Connections: Where Relationships Open Doors Email: info@realestateconnectionspodcast.com If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 103 Opening New Doors After 70
  8. Jul 9

    EP 102 How Do You Become an Inspired Elder?

    Why does contribution matter so much as we grow older? It's a question I hadn't thought about in quite this way until my delicious conversation with David McNally. Like many of us, I used to think being on purpose was the goal. But David offered a beautiful reframe: our purpose doesn't change, our contribution does. Whether we're mentoring a younger generation, starting a podcast at 67, going back to college at 72, or simply showing up each day with curiosity and compassion, we're all helping move humanity forward. That's what it means to become an Inspired Elder. David McNally is an internationally acclaimed speaker, author, and leadership expert whose latest book, If You're Alive, Your Mission on Earth Isn't Finished, reminds us that our later years can be some of our most meaningful. Approaching his 80th birthday, David shares the lived experiences that shaped his life, the personal losses that deepened his wisdom, and why he believes our greatest contribution may still lie ahead. This conversation is filled with memorable stories, heartfelt wisdom, and several "pause and think" moments that I know you'll carry with you long after the episode ends. One of my favorite moments came when David said: "I'm no longer ambitious...I'm passionate." That simple statement perfectly captures what so many of us discover in our later years. We stop striving to prove ourselves and begin living to serve, mentor, create, and contribute. Another unforgettable reminder: "The creative spirit within us only expires when we expire." If you've ever wondered what's next...or whether your best years might still be ahead of you...this episode is for you. Connect with David McNally: • Website • Book: If You're Alive, Your Mission on Earth Isn't Finished • YouTube: The Inspired Elder If this conversation inspired you, please share it with a friend who could use a reminder that their story... and their contribution... is far from over. If you found inspiration from this conversation, please rate, review and share this episode. I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to hop on over to Don’t Be Caged By Your Age on LinkedIn or Instagram. Or leave a message on the website here. Looking for a few simple ways to age well? Here are two products I use and genuinely recommend: 🚶‍♀️ Favorite Walking Pad – I use it almost every day while watching my favorite shows. It's quiet, easy to store, and makes getting more steps simple and enjoyable. 🥤 Favorite Protein Powder – Getting enough protein becomes even more important as we age. This is my go-to because it's easy to digest, delivers 25g of protein per serving, and supports healthy muscles and bones. Waving from Boston – cheers! Ande ♥ CONNECT with me online - I'd love to learn how you're shattering ageism! https://www.linkedin.com/in/andelyons/  https://www.instagram.com/dontbecagedbyyourage SPONSORSHIP If you resonate with the show’s mission of shattering ageism and age-related expectations so folks can thrive after 65, please reach out to me to learn more about making an impact throug...

    EP 102 How Do You Become an Inspired Elder?
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Looking for inspiration and practical advice on aging well? Don't Be Caged By Your Age is a positive aging podcast featuring conversations with older adults who are thriving after 65. Explore healthy aging, longevity, retirement, purpose, wellness, technology, entrepreneurship, relationships, and the many ways people create meaningful lives as they grow older. 

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