Grit and Grace: Real Conversatons on Resilience, Growth and Living in Alignment

Pam Rader and Erin Payne
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Real Conversations on Resilience, Growth & Living in Alignment Most advice is outsourced wisdom from people who haven't lived what they're teaching. Grit & Grace is a weekly podcast built on a different premise: the answers you're searching for aren't out there — they're in your own self-trust, waiting to be rebuilt. Hosted by master coach and leadership facilitator Pam Rader alongside embodiment coach Erin Payne, with regular appearances from Brian Thiessen — a rare mix of psychological insight and straight-talking cowboy wisdom — this show delivers raw, unscripted conversations about resilience, personal growth, nervous system regulation, and what it actually takes to live in alignment. Each episode challenges the culture of borrowed answers and outsourced authority, replacing it with better questions, somatic awareness, and earned — not inherited — direction. If you're tired of advice that doesn't hold up under your own life, this is the show that hands the authority back to you. Topics we explore: self-trust, personal transformation, nervous system regulation, somatic healing, mindset shift, emotional resilience, authentic leadership, boundaries, self-worth, decision-making, embodiment, psychological insight, living in alignment, coaching, personal growth. New episodes weekly. Real conversations. No outsourced wisdom. 🎙️ Follow Pam: pamrader.com | IG @pamrader | YouTube @coachpamrader 🌿 Follow Erin: erinpayne.ca | IG @erin_payne ✨ Join the waitlist for the Grit & Grace Retreat: pamrader.com/gritandgrace 🎓 Become the Catalyst — our 6-month coaching certification — launches Fall 2026

  1. 2d ago

    How to Overcome Fear of Failure (What Neuroscience Says)

    Ever wonder why building muscle requires literally tearing it? Failure works the same way — and today Pam and Erin unpack the real biology behind why avoiding failure might be hurting you more than failing ever could. This isn't "failure is part of growth" as a platitude. It's hormesis — the same biological principle behind muscle growth, immune resilience, and aging — applied to your confidence, motivation, and nervous system. Andrew Huberman's research shows mistakes trigger the exact brain chemicals (acetylcholine, epinephrine, dopamine) required for real learning. Not correlated with it — required. Pam and Erin get personal: Erin's studio closing when her business partner ghosted her mid-pandemic. Pam's digital course that sold exactly 3 copies after weeks of work. The parking-lot parenting fails we all hide. And a raw look at how failure got wired into shame in childhood — not by what our parents believed about us, but by the face they made when we messed up (Stanford research). You'll also hear Pam's story about her son's 29 treatment attempts — reframed not as failure, but as extraordinary persistence. Four practical tools to change your relationship with failure: 1. Vote, not verdict — every attempt is a vote for who you're becoming 2. The mirror question — would I want this reaction modeled for a child? 3. The blameless debrief — what happened, what did we learn, no blame (Amy Edmondson's research) 4. Retroactive reframe — look back and find the true opposite meaning Plus: why "perfectionism" is often just failure-avoidance wearing a nicer name. 🎧 Timestamps 00:41 – The muscle-tear metaphor: why we lean into physical failure but avoid emotional failure 02:56 – Erin's studio closing & business partner ghosting her 05:51 – Pam's digital course flop — 3 copies sold 06:56 – The "get in the car" parking lot fail 09:48 – What hormesis actually is 12:02 – Huberman: the brain chemicals only failure can trigger 15:23 – Amy Edmondson's hospital team research & psychological safety 16:39 – Childhood failure imprinting: it's the face, not the words 25:08 – Reframing failure as "the necessary mess" 32:07 – Perfectionism is a trauma response, not a virtue 35:42 – Tool 1: Vote, not verdict 36:51 – Tool 2: The mirror question 38:04 – Tool 3: The blameless debrief 41:48 – Pam's son: 29 treatment attempts, reframed 44:06 – Closing reflection If this episode hit home, share it with someone who's stuck avoiding a risk because they're afraid to fail. Subscribe and leave a rating — it genuinely helps the show grow. 🙏 #GritAndGrace #FailureIsData #PersonalGrowth

  2. Sep 9

    Self-Sabotage, Self-Trust & the Discipline vs. Devotion Trap: The 5 Saboteur Archetypes

    Self-sabotage isn't a willpower problem — it's a self-trust problem. In this episode of Grit & Grace, Pam Rader and Erin Payne break down why self-sabotage, self-trust, and the nervous system are so deeply connected, and introduce the 5 Saboteur Archetypes: the Rationalizer, the Defender, the Justifier, the Comfort Loyalist, and the Discomfort-Averse. Pam makes the case that self-sabotage isn't a discipline problem — it's a devotion problem. Discipline says do it anyway. Devotion says love yourself enough to do it anyway. That single shift — from self-force to self-love — is the difference between habits that white-knuckle for a week and identity change that actually sticks. Erin brings the somatic lens: why avoidance dressed up as self-care or attunement gives short-term nervous system relief but erodes long-term self-trust — and shares a raw, real-time story of catching herself mid-sabotage after a family conflict. They also unpack the research behind why this works: James Clear's "votes for identity" framework from Atomic Habits, Daryl Bem's 1972 self-perception theory, Wendy Wood's research showing 43% of daily behavior is habitual, Alan Marlatt's Buddhist-rooted "urge surfing" technique, and the yogic concepts of tapas (disciplined friction) and sankalpa (heartfelt intention). And in one of the most vulnerable moments on the show yet, Pam opens up about her real-life relationship with co-host Brian Thiessen — the anxious-avoidant attachment work, the discomfort, and the devotion that got them there. You'll walk away with 5 concrete steps: name your saboteur archetype, pick one embarrassingly small non-negotiable, plan for the wave before it hits, track votes instead of streaks, and return to devotion — not discipline — the moment you slip. WORK WITH US 1:1 coaching with Pam or Erin — pamrader.com and erinpayne.ca Inner Evolution Circle — weekly group coaching: pamrader.com Become the Catalyst — 6-month certification, starts October 20, 2026, registration open now: pamrader.com FREE WORKSHOP — Friday, Sept 11, 2026 at 11am (Zoom) Live training on our C.O.R.E. methodology. Free for everyone — register even if you can't attend live to get the replay AND lock in a $500 discount on Become the Catalyst Pam: pamrader.com | IG @pamrader | YouTube @coachpamrader Erin: erinpayne.ca | IG @erin_payne

  3. Aug 25

    Manifestation Blocks: The Universal Truth Behind Jim Curtis's Release, Align, Become

    Why can't you manifest the thing you want — more money, the right relationship, more peace — even when you're doing everything right? In this episode of Grit & Grace, hosts Pam Rader and Erin Payne break down the real reason manifestation stalls out in the gap between wanting something and receiving it, and the missing step almost no one talks about: forgiveness. Pam and Erin unpack Jim Curtis's framework from The Book of Possibility — Release, Align, Become — and trace the same universal truth through Abraham Hicks' teaching on contrast and the "rocket of desire," David Bayer's principle that desire plus non-resistance equals your desired result, and Baron Baptiste's line, "the answer to how is yes." They share real stories: Pam's $52,000 debt and the yoga teacher training that sold for exactly $52,000; Erin's money scarcity patterns and how she manifested a $9,000 coaching program she couldn't afford; and Pam's shift from listing qualities she wanted in a partner to asking who she needed to become instead. The conversation lands on the ancient Hawaiian practice of Ho'oponopono — I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you, I love you — and why forgiving yourself for ever believing you weren't worthy may be the real "alignment" step between releasing an old identity and becoming the person who can hold what you want. In this episode: Why vision boards and affirmations alone don't workThe difference between chasing the "how" and trusting the lagWhy your old identity — not bad luck — is what's blocking youReal stories of manifestation through becoming, not forcingHow shadow work and spiritual bypassing can look identicalThe Ho'oponopono practice, explained simplyA better affirmation: "I am divinely guided and perfectly on time"What Pam and Erin are each manifesting right nowBooks mentioned: The Book of Possibility: Release. Align. Become. by Jim CurtisZero Limits by Dr. Joe VitaleWork with Pam & Erin: Book a free discovery call to explore 1:1 coaching: https://pamrader.com/ Become the Catalyst — our six-month live coaching certification — opens for its next cohort October 20, 2026: https://pamrader.com/ Grit & Grace Retreat waitlist: https://pamrader.com/gritandgrace Follow the show: Pam: instagram.com/pamrader | YouTube: @coachpamrader Erin: instagram.com/erin_payne | erinpayne.ca If this episode resonated, subscribe and leave us a review — it helps more people find the show.

  4. Aug 10

    Self-Trust, Nervous System Regulation & the CORE Method for Lasting Change

    Self-trust is the missing ingredient in personal development — and it's why you can do all the "right" work and still feel stuck. In this episode of Grit & Grace, Pam Rader and Erin Payne break down the exact methodology they use with coaching clients to create lasting, sustainable change: CORE — Create Safety, Observe Patterns, Restore Self-Trust, Embody & Integrate. Pam shares the real story behind her cold plunging practice — how she started building nervous system resilience months before she consciously knew a storm was coming, and how that practice carried her through the day her marriage ended. Erin opens up about choosing herself over a relationship, and the visceral nervous system backlash that showed up the moment she took that step — even though it was exactly what she wanted. Together they unpack why shame and self-blame block transformation, how unspoken expectations quietly sabotage relationships, and why the "terror barrier" — that gut-drop feeling right before you take aligned action — is actually a sign you're doing it right, not a sign to stop. You'll learn: The CORE method for creating lasting change in any area of your lifeWhy creating safety with yourself (not a toxic-free environment) is the real starting pointA 3-part inquiry to interrupt any pattern that isn't serving youWhy "this doesn't feel right" after a big decision is often your nervous system, not your intuitionHow to embody new behavior until it becomes identity, not just insightThis episode also introduces Become the Catalyst, Pam and Erin's six-month live coaching certification launching October 2026. Applications are open now. Connect with us: Pam Rader: https://pamrader.com | IG: @pamrader | YouTube: @coachpamrader Erin Payne: https://erinpayne.ca | IG: @erin_payne Apply for Become the Catalyst: pamrader.com If this episode helped you, share it with someone who needs it — and leave us a rating, it helps more people find the show.

  5. Jul 31

    Meet Your Safety Officer: Dopamine, Avoidant Attachment & Why Familiar Isn't the Same as Safe

    Self-trust starts the moment you stop blaming your circumstances and start naming your patterns. In this raw, funny episode, Pam Rader sits down with co-host Erin Payne and returning guest Brian Thiessen ("the cowboy") to pull apart the invisible loops that keep smart, capable people stuck in the same relationship, business, or money pattern over and over again. They introduce the "safety officer" — the protective part of you (Pam calls hers Darlene, Erin's is Diane, Brian's is Dave) that hijacks your growth in the name of keeping you safe. It's not broken. It's not weak. It's a part of you doing exactly what it was built to do — and once you see it clearly, you can't unsee it. This episode breaks down the real differences keeping you stuck in the loop: Familiarity vs. Safety — Erin's key distinction: what feels "safe" is often just familiar chaos. Real safety feels different, and most people can't recognize it because they've never actually felt itDopamine vs. Oxytocin — the chemical of wanting vs. true bonding, and why we get addicted to "dopamine hunting" instead of real connectionDiscomfort vs. Wrong — why growth is supposed to feel uncomfortable, and why "this doesn't feel right" is often the exact sign you're finally doing something differentProtection vs. Prevention — every self-sabotaging pattern exists to protect, preserve, or prevent something, and why your safety officer isn't broken, it's just doing its job too wellAuthenticity vs. Performing — Erin's real-time experiment dating multiple people at once, and the moment she noticed she liked herself with one and was performing with the othersFalse Safety vs. Real Intimacy — Brian's story of building a 22-year "safe" relationship engineered to avoid the actual risk of real closenessPlus: Name Your Officer — a simple parts-work practice for identifying your own protector, thanking it for trying to keep you safe, and moving forward anyway. Quote of the episode: "Just because it's uncomfortable doesn't mean it's wrong." Mentioned in this episode: Parts work / Internal Family Systems (IFS)Avoidant attachment and the dopamine-oxytocin cycleBob Proctor — "as within, so without"A previous episode on authenticity vs. performing a version of yourself Connect with us: Pam Rader — pamrader.com | IG @pamrader Erin Payne — erinpayne.ca | IG @erin_payne Watch on YouTube — youtube.com/@coachpamrader If this episode named something you've never had words for, share it with someone who needs to hear it, rate the show, and let us know what landed for you. Ready to go deeper? Join the waitlist for our Grit & Grace Retreat at pamrader.com/gritandgrace. Pam's book, Through the Cracks: A Gripping Story of Addiction and Rising: https://www.amazon.ca/Through-Cracks-Gripping-Addiction-Rising/dp/1777531608

  6. Jul 17

    The Shadow side of Grace, Boundaries and Self-Love

    An Instagram reel sparked this one — a rapid-fire list of "therapy speak" turned into spiritual bypass. Pam and Erin take it further, unpacking the idea that a shadow isn't the bad stuff — it's the stuff getting a standing ovation. If it's being applauded, you can't see the pattern that's keeping you stuck. This episode breaks down the real difference between healthy behavior and its shadow twin: Giving grace vs. having no standards — and why "I'm just giving them grace" is often just tolerating bad behavior on repeatAuthenticity vs. an excuse to stay fixed — "that's just who I am" as a way to avoid becoming someone newBoundaries vs. avoidance — the two-part structure every real boundary needs, and why cutting people off isn't oneSelf-love vs. becoming uncoachable — when self-compassion turns into an excuse to dodge the mirrorNervous system regulation vs. avoidance in disguise — Erin unpacks how "protecting my peace" can quietly become "avoiding connection"Being triggered as a lifestyle — and why some people get triggered recreationallyThe healing shadow — if you've been healing the same thing for seven years, you're either being ripped off or you're the problemAbundance vs. accountability — Pam gets personal about the one area she's avoided being accountable inCommunity vs. validation for your excusesPlus: the "Standing Ovation Audit" — a four-step tool to find out where your praised traits might be costing you connection, growth, or self-trust, and one honest action you can take this week that doesn't need an audience. Quote of the episode: "The shadow is usually the thing in your life that's getting the standing ovation." Mentioned in this episode: Samskara / neuroplasticity — how old patterns get grooved in, and how new ones get builtThe snake and the rope metaphor (referenced from a previous episode)Tapas — the yogic concept of disciplined fire, and why real self-love requires itWork with us: Grit & Grace Retreat waitlist: pamrader.com/gritandgraceCoach with Pam: pamrader.comCoach with Erin: erinpayne.caIf this episode resonated, share it with someone who needs to hear it, rate the show, and let us know what landed for you. Pam's book, Through the Cracks: A Gripping Story of Addiction and Rising: https://www.amazon.ca/Through-Cracks-Gripping-Addiction-Rising/dp/1777531608/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=through+the+cracks&qid=1628019474&s=books&sr=1-2

  7. Jul 6

    "The Belief You Didn't Know You Had" — Money, Love & Being Chosen

    The beliefs running your life are rarely the ones you'd say out loud. In this episode, Pam Rader and Erin Payne pull back the curtain on the beliefs hiding beneath the surface — the ones disguised as gratitude, independence, or "good enough" — and hand you a real framework for finding them. This is self-trust in action: instead of borrowing someone else's story about money, love, or worthiness, you learn to investigate your own mind and find out what's actually true for you. Pam shares the belief she thought she'd already solved — "there's always enough" — and how it quietly became a ceiling: "there's always just enough." When she asked herself what she really believed about wealthy people, she uncovered a hidden judgment that was keeping her stuck. Erin brings her own thread — the belief that not landing a client meant she wasn't chosen, and wasn't lovable — and how she caught herself in real time. Together they walk through the full six-step framework: Find the pattern — not the belief. Look for where you keep hitting the same wall.Find the judgment underneath — what do you secretly believe about people who already have what you say you want?Name the cost — specifically. Years, income, relationships, opportunities.Flip it — articulate the precise opposite belief, in your own words.Gather evidence deliberately — go hunting for proof the new belief is already true, in your life and in the world.Take consistent action from the new identity — not the old one. A belief becomes real through repeated action, not a single affirmation.They also get into: Why "I've already done this work" is often a resistance itselfThe difference between appreciation (an action) and gratitude (a state that follows it)How resistance shows up in the body before it shows up as a thoughtWhy exceeding your parents' success can quietly feel disrespectfulThe "socks on the floor" example — how a small daily irritation can reveal a much deeper belief about control and being seen as capableWhy manifestation isn't on a fixed timeline, and what to do when old patterns resurface after you've already shiftedIf you're ready to stop outsourcing your answers and start trusting your own ability to find them, this episode gives you the tool to do it. Reflect on this for yourself: Where do I keep hitting the same wall?What do I secretly believe about people who already have what I want?What has this belief cost me — specifically?What's the precise opposite belief, in my own words?Who is already living proof this new belief is true?What would someone who believes this do this week that I haven't done yet? Ready to go deeper? Explore Become the Catalyst, our six-month coaching certification launching Fall 2026, or join the waitlist for the Grit & Grace retreat at pamrader.com/gritandgrace. Connect with Erin at erinpayne.ca or @_epayne_ and with Pam at pamrader.com or @pamrader. If this episode gave you something, rate the show, leave a comment, and share it with someone who needs it. That's how we take life's grit and turn it into gold.

  8. Jun 23

    How to Stop Following Someone Else's Map and Start Trusting Yourself

    Are you actually living your life — or just checking off someone else's itinerary? In this episode, Pam and Erin unpack Sadhguru's powerful Tourist vs. Traveler teaching and ask the question most of us have never dared to answer honestly: whose map am I following? Tourists go where everyone says to go. They gather evidence they were there, post the photo, and move on. Travelers slow down, follow the pull, and let the experience itself be the point. Most of us have been tourists in our own lives — in our careers, our relationships, even our parenting — without ever realizing it. Pam shares a spontaneous moment in a Naples deli that became her favorite memory of an entire Italy trip. Erin gets real about a recent work weekend she didn't want to do — and what the exhaustion was actually telling her. Together, they trace the deeper pattern: outsourcing the itinerary of your life to parents, culture, Instagram algorithms, and influencers. In this episode: The Tourist vs. Traveler metaphor and what it reveals about self-trustWhy social media has supercharged the borrowed-map problemHow to know if you're performing your life vs. actually inhabiting itThe one question to ask when you're stuck or procrastinating (it's not what you think)The brain science behind rewiring limiting beliefs — and why affirmations don't workPsycho-Cybernetics, neuroplasticity, and recalling success as a reprogramming toolPractical tools: whose map, trade the destination for a direction, presence audit, better questionsWhether it's how you parent, how you work, how you love, or how you spend a Sunday — this episode will make you pause and ask: Am I here, or am I just collecting evidence that I was? Ready to go deeper? 🎙 Work with Pam: https://pamrader.com/ 🌿 Work with Erin: https://erinpayne.ca 📲 Pam on IG: @pamrader | Erin on IG: @erin_payne 🎬 YouTube: @coachpamrader 🏔 Grit & Grace Retreat Waitlist: https://pamrader.com/gritandgrace

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Real Conversations on Resilience, Growth & Living in Alignment Most advice is outsourced wisdom from people who haven't lived what they're teaching. Grit & Grace is a weekly podcast built on a different premise: the answers you're searching for aren't out there — they're in your own self-trust, waiting to be rebuilt. Hosted by master coach and leadership facilitator Pam Rader alongside embodiment coach Erin Payne, with regular appearances from Brian Thiessen — a rare mix of psychological insight and straight-talking cowboy wisdom — this show delivers raw, unscripted conversations about resilience, personal growth, nervous system regulation, and what it actually takes to live in alignment. Each episode challenges the culture of borrowed answers and outsourced authority, replacing it with better questions, somatic awareness, and earned — not inherited — direction. If you're tired of advice that doesn't hold up under your own life, this is the show that hands the authority back to you. Topics we explore: self-trust, personal transformation, nervous system regulation, somatic healing, mindset shift, emotional resilience, authentic leadership, boundaries, self-worth, decision-making, embodiment, psychological insight, living in alignment, coaching, personal growth. New episodes weekly. Real conversations. No outsourced wisdom. 🎙️ Follow Pam: pamrader.com | IG @pamrader | YouTube @coachpamrader 🌿 Follow Erin: erinpayne.ca | IG @erin_payne ✨ Join the waitlist for the Grit & Grace Retreat: pamrader.com/gritandgrace 🎓 Become the Catalyst — our 6-month coaching certification — launches Fall 2026

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