Hey Not The Face! Podcast

John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes
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A newsletter and podcast covering the business of face-punching! heynottheface.substack.com

  1. 4d ago

    Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury's earnings are insane | Ep. 267

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest UFC antitrust case(s) updates. In our main topic, we discuss boxing. We examine the latest revealed financial filings of Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury, as well as Chris Eubank, Jr. and Conor Benn. We weigh in on Shakur Stevenson’s signing with Zuffa Boxing, and the recent announcement of Ryan Garcia vs. Conor Benn. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 267 Outline * Are there any new filings or updates to the UFC antitrust cases? * Last week Zuffa Boxing announced the signing of Shakur Stevenson. How big a signing is this for them? * What do you think is the biggest pitfall Shakur could face with this signing? * Ryan Garcia vs. Conor Benn is official for September 12th. Who is promoting this fight? * Is DAZN still a major player here? * Do we know how much longer Garcia is signed to Golden Boy? * What are your thoughts on Zuffa Boxing counter-programming the UFC Noche event? * Our friend @mindofb on Twitter alerted us to Anthony Joshua’s Sparta Promotions Ltd’s financial filings, something you’d been keeping an eye on yourself. What did those filings reveal? * Is Sparta Promotions Ltd the only filing we need to look at to see Joshua’s finances? * Tyson Fury Ltd also recently filed with Companies House UK, what did that say about his finances? * Are there any other high profile boxers that filed in the UK? * With the Ali Act amendment presently on the back burner, what do you think the odds are of it passing next year? * Listener question from our friend Eric Hamidi: In your best estimation, why do you think Lonnie Ali supports the Revival Act? *Johnson v. Zuffa order*Dominance motion for leave *Sparta Promotions 2025*Tyson Fury Ltd. 2025

    Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury's earnings are insane | Ep. 267

  2. 6d ago

    Oh yes, that crippled Irishman | Ep. 266

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest UFC antitrust case(s) updates. In our main topic, we discuss Conor McGregor’s disastrous return at UFC 329. We analyze what his future prospects look like now, his new energy drink, and John’s theory that maybe Conor didn’t have a sunset clause in his contract. We also weigh in on Paulo Costa’s contract dilemma, Mayhem Miller’s comments about how the “UFC wellness Program” works, and Cody Garbrandt’s call for the UFC to help with post-career transition for fighters. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 266 Outline * Are there any new filings or updates to the UFC antitrust cases? * Our friend Rob Joyner sent us an interview with Miles Jury where he broke down his antitrust settlement payout. Was there anything noteworthy in that? * UFC 329 is in the books and Conor McGregor embarrassed himself and probably the company too. We discussed what his future would look like in the event he lost, but this was way outside what we considered. What do you think it looks like now? * I couldn’t help but notice a stark difference in the week leading up to his fight and the last time he was supposed to fight. There were no chants in the audience at weigh-ins and pressers. No chants in the arena, no Irish flags. As a matter of fact, it was a very muted audience. Is Conor going to be able to draw anywhere near his previous outings for his final fight? * The gate was set to make $52M on paper but only did half that. What are we to make of that? * Conor released his new energy drink this week. Do you think it will make a profit? * Did you find it odd that Ryan Garcia is in the commercial for it? * I saw some discourse on Twitter that suggested the UFC might buy out Conor’s contract and not bother having him fight it out. What do you think of that premise? * What do you think of the UFC paywalling McGregor’s 69-second fight replay? * Paddy Pimblett was the one that got the biggest pop in the arena, both before and after his fight. Is he the next big star? * Jason “Mayhem” Miller told Ariel Helwani the UFC’s wellness program for retired fighters was like the WWE’s and was basically a card to get pain pills. What did you think of his comments? * Cody Garbrandt spoke to media last week about the need for UFC to help fighters with post-career transition. What did you think of that? * Paulo Costa revealed the UFC’s tolling provisions kicked in regarding his last fight. Can you explain what happened here? * Does he have any options other than to take whatever they offer him, no questions asked? *Plaintiff’s statement of missing material from the Defendant’s production*

    Oh yes, that crippled Irishman | Ep. 266

  3. Jul 10

    Our unsanitized coverage of Conor McGregor's career | Ep. 265

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest UFC antitrust case(s) updates and a new case that was filed by a former employee. In our main discussion topic, we look at Conor McGregor’s career, including how much money he’s made both in and out of the octagon, his Kinahan cartel connection, and how his businesses have fared. We also weigh in on him being found civilly liable for the brutal rape of Nikita Hand, and how that’s affected his fanbase in Ireland, Europe, and the United States, as well as how it has been covered by the media in the weeks leading up to UFC 329. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to our paywalled content* Episode 265 Outline * Are there any new filings or updates to the UFC antitrust cases? * Do you have any additional thoughts about Eric Wedin’s work in this case? * Are you surprised by the efforts of MMA media at large to sanitize Conor McGregor’s image? * How much of an impact do you think his rape case and subsequent civil liability affected his image with fans, both here and in Europe? * Bet US has a graphic showing that most of the USA’s fans support Conor McGregor’s return to fighting and are rooting for him. Did that graphic properly illustrate his fandom or is it just a gimmick to get people betting either on him or against him? * Our good friend, Fred Garvin, did some investigating into the ticket sales for this weekend’s card. I was surprised to learn it hasn’t sold out. What else did Fred’s investigation find? * Audie Attar, Conor’s manager, talked about his contract details recently in an interview. Did he reveal anything in the interview and do you have any guesses as to how his payout for this fight will compare to his other matches? * McGregor says he is happy to campaign for fighter pay. Do you think he does anything to raise fighter pay? * Conor made a hefty sum off the antitrust settlement. How much did he make? * Can you give us a summary of what you think McGregor has made during his career? * Is there any risk that he’s on the path to becoming another Mayweather? * Do you think his public ties with the Kinahan gang could be depleting his wealth? * Conor was recently ranting about how Khabib needs to come out of retirement and have a rematch against him. Why do you think he’s calling for that specific fight? * What do you think happens to Conor’s financial legacy after Saturday in both scenarios (wins fight/loses fight)? *PLAINTIFFS’ RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS’ NOTICE OF INTENT AND OPPOSITION TO PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS, ECF No. 82 *COMPLAINT FOR DAMAGES, DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL

    Our unsanitized coverage of Conor McGregor's career | Ep. 265

  4. Jul 3

    Did the court-appointed expert just save the UFC's bacon? | Ep. 264

    SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, John flew solo to break down the three days of the spoliation hearings in the UFC antitrust cases. There was a major bombshell revealed when Judge Boulware struck from the record all testimony from the expert witness. There was also more sworn testimony from matchmakers. The Defendants really lucked out, and John explains why. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *Today’s show is free, but we urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going, and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 264 Outline * Overview of the 3 days of hearings * Maynard uses Dana White as a “CYA” * Maynard asked about deleted messages with managers * Maynard asking White for input on fighter pay * How post fight bonuses are now handled * Maynard knows nothing about arbitration agreements or class action waivers * Court appointed expert, Eric Wedin, apparently wiped Dana White’s phone * Wedin left mistakes in his final reports and maybe didn’t even read it * Court struck Wedin from the record * How they could ask Apple if a kill code was sent to the phone * Sean Shelby’s testimony * Matchmakers have no guidelines with regards to how much a fighter can be paid * Shelby also doesn’t discuss matchmaking or contracts with Dana White * Shelby too doesn’t know anything about arbitration agreements and class action waivers * What comes next? * Why the Defendants really lucked out *ECF 287 MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS* The Hey Not the Face! Podcast is an independent publication. Please consider a paid subscription to keep up with our best work and learn how you can support us. With all forms of news media crumbling, especially in the combat sports space, we could really use your help. Thank you. We appreciate all of you. Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription and spreading word of this episode by sharing it far and wide. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit heynottheface.substack.com/subscribe

  5. Jul 1

    Who does the UFC actually compete with? | Ep. 263

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest UFC antitrust case(s) updates. We also discuss which promotions can actually compete with the UFC, and if traditional stick-and-ball sports view the UFC as competition. We analyze Paulo Costa’s contract situation, and the damage to Alex Pereira’s brand in the fallout from his loss to Cyril Gane. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going* Episode 263 Outline * Are there any new updates or filings in the UFC antitrust cases? * UFC self-reported 34M global views and 126B social media views for the White House card. Do you believe those estimates? * Speaking of the White House card, Alex Pereira lost a bit of his shine in that loss to Cyril Gane. Since then, he’s been on a run of bad PR between continuing reports of sexual assault against his ex girlfriend, a concentrated attack on Herb Dean, and weird exchanges with fans on social media. What’s your take on his antics, and do you think he should dial it back? * Dana White seemed very concerned over Floyd Mayweather’s legal troubles, commenting the following, “I’ve talked to him about him. When somebody works as hard as he did, amasses the type of wealth he had, and then they lose it or it’s stolen, it’s horrible. Who knows, anything is possible, maybe we can do something to figure it out for him.” What do you think he meant by ‘maybe we can do something to figure it out for him’? * Dana recently commented, “We are not the same” in regards to a question about Eddie Hearn being competition to Zuffa Boxing. He noted that nobody is viewed as competition on either the boxing or MMA side, saying only the stick-and-ball sports were viewed as competition. Is he right? * What do you think of Paulo Costa’s contract situation right now? * PFL San Diego salaries were released, revealing a main event fighter only got $10K to show. What do you think of that? * What do you make of Rizin’s self reported PPV numbers a few weeks back? * BONUS: Does John have zucchini envy? *Minutes of the Court*

  6. Jun 26

    UFC is still raking in the cash from the White House card | Ep. 262

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest UFC antitrust case(s) updates. We also discuss what fighters think managers actually do for them, Sean O’Malley’s purse dip, and Ian Machado Garry’s new representation. We weigh in on the UFC’s auctions from the White House card, and whether Paramount paid too much for their broadcast rights. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going* Episode 262 Outline * Are there any updates in the UFC antitrust cases? * During an interview on One Night With Steiny, Sean O’Malley confirmed he was getting paid around $600,000, which Eddie Hearn picked up on and called out fighters like O’Malley for accepting it. What do you make of this drama? * Georgio Poullas had a video were he asked Aljamain Sterling and Joshua Van what a manager does. What did you think of their answers? * Eddie Hearn is apparently now representing Ian Machado Garry. What can he do for him? * Des Barry gave us an update on the collectible auction prices from UFC Freedom 250. No questions, just want to point out how insane those prices are. * There was some discussion on X between Rob Joyner and Dave Meltzer regarding whether or not Paramount overpaid for the broadcast rights for the UFC. What’s your take on the argument? * Johnny Fisher said Zuffa Boxing offered him 6 or 7 times as much as what Matchroom was offering him. Hearn’s response was to tell him to run to this offer. What do you make of Zuffa Boxing offering so much more? * October Red Media had an interview with DAZN VP Alfie Sharman discussing boxing on their platform. What do you think of what he had to say? * What’s going on with Floyd Mayweather? Can you give us an update on what’s going on with his finances and lawsuits? *PLAINTIFFS’ REPLY MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR AN ORDER COMPELLING SUBPOENA COMPLIANCE*

    UFC is still raking in the cash from the White House card | Ep. 262

  7. Jun 23

    Managers swear Dana White doesn't negotiate contracts | Ep. 261

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking back at the latest UFC antitrust case(s) updates. We discuss how managers swore under threat of perjury that Dana White doesn’t negotiate contracts, as well as the Defendant’s response to Plaintiff’s spoliation claims. We also weigh in on Justin Gaethje’s call for equity, the new UFC rankings system, and the ongoing feud with Dana White and Eddie Hearn. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going* Episode 261 Outline * Are there any updates in the UFC antitrust cases? * Viewer numbers for the White House event have been a point of contention with Dana White commenting that ⅓ of Paramount subscribers tuned in. Is Dana just bad at math or did that feel like an intentional misrepresentation? * Justin Gaethje feels he deserves to be rewarded with equity for everything he’s done for the UFC, saying the following: “I’m in a place where I feel like I deserve to be compensated for what I have done, not for what I’m going to do. The UFC should create a company and give me equity in that company so I can build passive income.” What do you say to that? * Speaking of Gaethje, GSP says that he thinks Justin should retire. Do you agree with that sentiment? * Islam Makhachev said that the reason negotiations with Ilia Topuria went south after an initial agreement was made, was because the day after they agreed, Ilia came back with a demand for somewhere in the neighborhood of $20M. Do you think Ilia had enough standing to legitimately demand that amount? * Demetrious Johnson talked about the perils of losing a championship bout (or any fight), and how people tend to forget their expected purse is cut in half. Is there anything else that could be added to that conversation? * The UFC is introducing their new AI rankings system this week. Does this signify a further move away from being a true sport? * The feud between Dana White and Eddie Hearn keeps going, with Dana making fun of Eddie because Anthony Joshua signed a deal with CAA. What do you make of that? * Speaking of Hearn, he discussed DAZN’s new deal with TNT sports. Do you think that relationship will keep DAZN alive and thriving? * Do you think Turki Alalshikh will be able to broker the peace he hopes for among all the promoters? * What are your thoughts on the WBO refusing to allow ZUFFA Boxing to submit a purse bid on the Keshawn Davis-Devin Haney bout because ZB isn’t an officially licensed promoter? *Latest filings from the UFC antitrust cases*

    Managers swear Dana White doesn't negotiate contracts | Ep. 261

  8. Jun 19

    Why did the UFC oversell their viewer numbers? | Ep. 260

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT We’re discussing viewership numbers from UFC Freedom 250 and why the estimates were so inflated compared to what they were in reality. We also look at the backlash to Conor McGregor’s media appearances, and the lingering effect of Josh Hokit’s comment on Michelle Obama. We weigh in on Floyd Mayweather’s ma…

    Why did the UFC oversell their viewer numbers? | Ep. 260
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    John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    269
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