þ thorns þ

Rose Choreographic School

þ thorns þ proposes to think with the affordances of postdisciplinarity and the choreographic. This series seeks to set in motion the possibilities of the podcast as choreographic form, score and modality, as well as haptic space for glitch and grain. This series privileges prompts over topics, verbs over nouns, soft tissue over hard tech, and phenomena over “thing”. Importantly, these are open-ended conversation pieces, experimental dialogues, remote contact-improvisations and conceptual playgrounds, not interviews.   Guest speaker pairings are conceived out of radical associativity, where knowledges and non-knowledges, somatic practices and techniques of living are brought into experimental proximity, constellating themselves through intra-action along the way. As part of the ongoing imagination of the School we are compiling a glossary of words that artists are using to refer to the choreographic. Every time we invite people to collaborate with us we also invite them to donate to the glossary, hosted on our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. Naz Cuguoğlu & Steve Dickison

    Jun 3

    Naz Cuguoğlu & Steve Dickison

    This episode is a conversation between Naz Cuguoğlu and Steve Dickison. Steve directed The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives at San Francisco State University from 1999 to 2024, and is a writer whose work engages deeply with poetry, criticism, and conversation. Naz is a curator of contemporary art, currently working at the Asian Art Museum in San Francisco, whose practice unfolds across exhibitions, research, and collaborative formats. In this episode, Steve and Naz come together around Etel Adnan’s The Arab Apocalypse, whose work sits at the heart of this conversation. Reflecting on poetry, sound, translation and the presence of “the hidden.” They speak of pausing, of breathing with the times we live in, and of calling Etel in—holding space for her work through friendship, care, and attention. The depth of their love for Etel and her work resonates throughout the conversation, carrying something that moves beyond language. To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website. This episode is part of a mini-series,Choreographing the Apocalypse, which is guest curated by Mine Kaplangı, a Folkestone-based curator and art mediator from Istanbul.  It forms part of their ongoing research into queer and trans imaginaries of the apocalypse(s). They will be inviting artists, thinkers, and somatic practitioners to explore apocalyptic thinking through speculative world-building and radically intimate frameworks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 18m
  2. Black Quantum Futurism: Camae Ayewa and Rasheedah Phillips

    May 13

    Black Quantum Futurism: Camae Ayewa and Rasheedah Phillips

    This episode is a conversation with Black Quantum Futurism, an interdisciplinary practice founded by Rasheedah Phillips and Camae Ayewa (Moor Mother). Their work brings together quantum physics with Afrodiasporic understandings of time, space, ritual, text, and sound, creating frameworks for counter-histories and alternative futures. Rasheedah is a writer, artist, and housing advocate whose work explores temporalities and community futurisms through a Black futurist lens. Camae, also known as Moor Mother, is a musician, poet, and visual artist whose practice moves across sound, performance, and collaboration. Working with Camae and Rasheedah has been deeply formative for Mine Kaplangı, the curator of this episode. Their work shaped the programme co-curated at VSSL Studio, Entanglements of the Apocalypse, where they recently presented their solo exhibition Time Is On Our Side. This episode is an extension of that collaboration, and part of the exhibition’s public programme.  In this conversation, they generously take us on a journey through their practice—how they met, how their collaboration began, and what has unfolded between then, now, and beyond. They share their thinking on time, black holes, and nonlinear temporalities, offering ways of understanding the apocalypse not as an ending, but as a site of transformation, delay, and return. A full transcript of this episode and links to further resources, including Black Quantum Futurism’s work and writings, can be found on our website. This episode is part of a mini-series, Choreographing the Apocalypse, which is guest curated by Mine Kaplangı, a Folkestone-based curator and art mediator from Istanbul. It forms part of their ongoing research into queer and trans imaginaries of the apocalypse(s). They will be inviting artists, thinkers, and somatic practitioners to explore apocalyptic thinking through speculative world-building and radically intimate frameworks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    38 min

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þ thorns þ proposes to think with the affordances of postdisciplinarity and the choreographic. This series seeks to set in motion the possibilities of the podcast as choreographic form, score and modality, as well as haptic space for glitch and grain. This series privileges prompts over topics, verbs over nouns, soft tissue over hard tech, and phenomena over “thing”. Importantly, these are open-ended conversation pieces, experimental dialogues, remote contact-improvisations and conceptual playgrounds, not interviews.   Guest speaker pairings are conceived out of radical associativity, where knowledges and non-knowledges, somatic practices and techniques of living are brought into experimental proximity, constellating themselves through intra-action along the way. As part of the ongoing imagination of the School we are compiling a glossary of words that artists are using to refer to the choreographic. Every time we invite people to collaborate with us we also invite them to donate to the glossary, hosted on our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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