Surgeons with Purpose

Hippocratic Collective

A podcast for surgeons who feel like they are languishing in a career that didn't turn out to be as fulfilling or as prestigious as they expected. Dr. Mel Thacker, an ENT surgeon and coach, takes you on a journey to help you understand why you are feeling dissatisfied, burnt out, and stuck. With this newfound insight, you'll be able to reframe how you see your experience, rediscover who you are underneath your surgeon identity, and create a life that aligns with your authentic self. Find more info about Surgeons with Purpose and other shows on the Hippocratic Collective at hippocratic-collective.com

  1. 18h ago

    #109 PE Sharks in the Water with Dr. Adrienne Towsen

    For 19 years, Dr. Adrienne Towsen practiced in the kind of orthopedic group most surgeons dream of: five partners, employees who'd been there forever, a 30-year reputation, a family feel. Then came the supergroup. Then came private equity. The pitch: liquidity events, surgery centers, top-dog status. The math: one year's salary upfront, paid back over five years through a 25% management "scrape." The reality: 12-to-14-hour days, a salary cut in half, a practice that couldn't pay for gauze pads, and a call center in another location that didn't even know she was a doctor there. Her breaking point came after a weekend of hip fracture call, when she did the math and realized she'd essentially volunteered her time. She sent her resignation the next morning. With no plan. Just the certainty that there had to be another way. Five months ago, she opened The Towsen Clinic: a concierge direct-care practice built entirely on her own terms, where visits last 60 to 90 minutes and patients finally get what they're starved for: a human partner in their health. In this episode: The seductive pitch PE makes to physician groups and the math hiding underneath itWhat "we're employed now. This is no longer our practice" feels like from the insideThe moment a 20-year patient left because he couldn't get through the phone treeWhy she resigned without a plan, and what the sadness-plus-relief told herWalking away from the OR after 21 years and making peace with itThe surprising bridge from hip fractures to hormone health and women's medicineHer advice if work is murdering your soul: don't stay stuck "I couldn't have been more miserable." -Dr. Towsen then. "This is the beginning of my next chapter." -Dr. Towsen now. Dr. Adrienne Towsen is an orthopedic surgeon and founder of The Towsen Clinic, a concierge preventive-care practice in West Chester, PA. Check out her clinic here. Follow her on LinkedIn here. 🎧 If this episode resonated, share it with a colleague weighing their own next chapter, and leave a review so more surgeons find the show. Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. Take the Trainee to Attending Masterclass here.

  2. Jul 20

    #107 Becoming a Great Defendant with Heather Hansen

    Take the quiz: What kind of surgeon are you becoming? here. Join us inside Empowered Surgeons group here. One of the most surprising truths about medical malpractice is this: the work that prepares you to become a strong defendant is the very same work that helps prevent lawsuits in the first place. It's the work that strengthens your relationships with patients, your spouse, your children, your colleagues, and your friends. At the heart of all of it are two skills: compassion and communication. In today's episode, I sit down with Heather Hansen, a medical malpractice defense attorney and expert in effective communication. As surgeons, most of us will face a lawsuit at some point in our careers. Yet no one teaches us how to navigate that experience, or how to become the kind of defendant a jury can trust. The research is clear: patients are less likely to sue physicians who communicate with empathy, authenticity, and compassion. Heather has spent decades defending physicians in the courtroom, and she shares a fascinating perspective from the other side of medical malpractice. The defense attorney's job is to humanize the physician and tell the story of a compassionate, thoughtful surgeon who genuinely cared for their patient. The good news is that is a skill set that can be developed long before you're ever named in a lawsuit. In this conversation, you'll learn how to better understand the game of medical malpractice, see the key players through a different lens, communicate more effectively under pressure, and cultivate the qualities that not only make you a stronger defendant but a better surgeon and leader. For more than 20 years, Heather Hansen defended physicians, healthcare providers, and hospitals in medical malpractice litigation. During that time, she mastered the art of communicating with compassion, credibility, and charisma when the stakes couldn't have been higher. Today, she teaches those same communication strategies to leaders, teams, and healthcare professionals around the world. You can learn more about her on her website here. Follow her on LinkedIn here.

  3. Jun 29

    #104 Multiple Streams of Income with Dr. Stephen Cohen

    Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. Join Dr. Gita Pensa’s Litigation Education And Preparedness course here. Dr. Stephen Cohen is a board-certified general and colorectal surgeon, Section Chief of Surgery at the VA, and an experienced medical expert witness with nearly 30 years in the medicolegal field. We explore what it really means to build a sustainable career in surgery: one that allows surgery to enhance your life rather than consume it. Dr. Cohen shares why he left more than 20 years in private practice for academic medicine, how financial conflict influenced that decision, and why he believes every physician should consider developing multiple streams of income. We discuss the many career opportunities available outside of direct patient care, including medical expert witness work, utilization review, consulting for medical device and pharmaceutical companies, research, and other non-clinical physician roles. He also offers practical advice on how physicians can get started, how to value their expertise, and why it's important to understand both plaintiff and defense work as a medical expert. We also talk about medical malpractice lawsuits and the emotional toll they take on physicians. Dr. Cohen openly shares his experience of being sued five times, what it was like to be served, how those cases were resolved, and why being named in the National Practitioner Data Bank (NPDB) does not define your career. He explains why malpractice litigation is fundamentally adversarial, why the legal system doesn't always reward the truth in the way physicians expect, and what every doctor should know before ever stepping into a deposition or courtroom. Along the way, we discuss one of the biggest lessons he learned as an expert witness: knowing the medical record better than anyone else. He explains why carefully reviewing the chart, understanding every detail, and studying depositions can make all the difference in litigation. We also explore why a poor outcome does not necessarily mean poor medical care and the single question from a plaintiff attorney that changed the outcome of a malpractice trial despite excellent surgical care. Our conversation turns to risk management and the everyday habits that protect both patients and physicians. Dr. Cohen shares why thoughtful documentation is so important, why physicians should never argue with colleagues in the medical record, when to involve risk management after complications, and why communication remains one of the most powerful ways to reduce malpractice risk. He also discusses the surprising benefits of giving patients your cell phone number, approaching every patient with a beginner's mind, and asking yourself how you would care for the patient if they were your own parent. Finally, we reflect on what changes after residency and fellowship, when technical excellence alone is no longer enough and physicians begin redefining success on their own terms. Dr. Cohen shares what he still loves about colorectal surgery, how the specialty has evolved throughout his career, his thoughts on the rising incidence of colorectal cancer, and why every surgeon should build a career that creates freedom, purpose, and longevity, not just more time in the operating room. Whether you're interested in medical malpractice, becoming a medical expert witness, physician consulting, utilization review, physician burnout, career diversification, or building multiple streams of income as a doctor, this conversation is filled with practical advice and hard-earned wisdom from someone who has successfully navigated every stage of a surgical career. Follow Dr. Stephen Cohen on linkedin here.

  4. Jun 15

    #102 Becoming a Surgeon with Purpose with Dr. Cameron Roth

    What kind of surgeon are you becoming? Take the quiz here. Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. Check out Behind the Sports Medicine Podcast here and follow them on instagram here. Dr. Cameron Roth is a fellowship-trained orthopedic doctor specializing in hand, wrist, and upper extremity surgery and co-host of the podcast, Behind the Sports Medicine Podcast. In this episode we talk about what it actually feels like to finish training and go out into the world as an attending for the first time when the buck stops with you. We talk about imposter syndrome and the real divide between how men and women experience the culture of surgery, particularly orthopedic surgeons. We touch on the fallacy of certainty. You train under one attending who tells you there is one right way to do things. Then you rotate to another attending who tells you the same thing about a completely different technique. Both are certain. Both are wrong about their certainty. We also get into the first complication after training, and how it hits differently than anything you experienced as a resident. We consider whether being a woman in surgery might be a superpower, or, perhaps, that surgery selects for badass women. The extra scrutiny, the bias, the being underestimated, done consciously, can produce antifragility. Not just toughness. The capacity to grow stronger under pressure. I think every surgeon, regardless of gender, needs to hear this reframe. We also cover what genuine availability to patients looks like versus the kind that breeds resentment, and what it means to show up for patients from service energy rather than fear. This one is for every surgeon who has ever stood at the scrub sink before a hard case and wondered why their career doesn't feel like they thought it should.

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A podcast for surgeons who feel like they are languishing in a career that didn't turn out to be as fulfilling or as prestigious as they expected. Dr. Mel Thacker, an ENT surgeon and coach, takes you on a journey to help you understand why you are feeling dissatisfied, burnt out, and stuck. With this newfound insight, you'll be able to reframe how you see your experience, rediscover who you are underneath your surgeon identity, and create a life that aligns with your authentic self. Find more info about Surgeons with Purpose and other shows on the Hippocratic Collective at hippocratic-collective.com