Laugh Cry Club

Joy Parrish, LPC // Rebecca Zeleny, LCSW

Hosted by licensed mental health therapists who laugh and cry as much as you do. New episodes every Monday. We explore the psychology behind the stories everyone is talking about—from documentaries and reality TV to relationships, current events, and everyday life. With compassion, humor, and practical insights, we help you better understand yourself and others. Every emotion is welcome, every story has something to teach us.

  1. Sep 14

    Navigating Habits and Relationships

    Managing a Partner’s “Bad Habits”: Self-Regulation, Stages of Change, and Better ConversationsHosts Joy and Rebecca of the Laugh Cry Club, two licensed therapists, open with Joy’s birthday reflections and light conversation before addressing a listener email about managing a partner’s bad habits. They discuss how habits often function as self-regulation and coping skills shaped by upbringing, nervous-system baseline, trauma, and environment, and become “bad” when they interfere with life or relationships. They emphasize that partners cannot force change, and recommend approaching concerns with curiosity on neutral ground, setting conversation ground rules, and considering couples therapy. Joy shares breaking her own conflict “template” by pausing and changing scenery. They review the stages of change (pre-contemplation through maintenance), suggest habit stacking, and recommend Gottman resources for daily relationship check-ins. They announce a week off and future book-club plans, including Arthur C. Brooks’ “Build the Life You Want.”00:00 Birthday Sleep Win01:50 Gratitude and Messages02:56 Trader Joes Fall Finds04:25 Decor Tangents and Toilets06:24 Treat Yourself Spending07:42 Catching Up and Podcast Intro09:48 Listener Question Setup10:12 Why Habits Form12:04 Childhood Chaos and Regulation14:39 Coping Skills Not Bad Habits16:10 How Environment Shapes Addiction16:45 Talking Without Criticism19:17 Breaking Reactive Templates26:36 Assumptions And Relationship Fear30:14 Stages Of Change Explained32:10 Habit Stacking And Letting Go35:44 Investing In The Partnership38:10 Book Club And Final Wrap

  2. Aug 31

    Understanding Depression: How to Be There for Your Loved Ones

    Grief, Parasocial Loss, and Supporting a Depressed PartnerJoy and Rebecca open the Laugh Cry Club reflecting on a heavy week marked by the deaths of icons Dolly Parton and Tim Curry, sharing personal memories, Dolly’s philanthropic legacy and inclusive quotes, Tim Curry’s notable roles, and how parasocial relationships make celebrity loss feel real—especially for Gen X. They transition to a listener question about supporting a depressed spouse/partner, emphasizing that relationships are hard, healing has no timeline, and you can’t force someone into therapy or control outcomes without slipping into codependent or enabling behaviors. They recommend compassion paired with acknowledging impact, avoiding blame and passive-aggression, learning each other’s communication histories, using safer settings (walks/drives), prompts, scaling and ground rules, and considering couples therapy to break harmful communication cycles.00:00 Welcome Back Laugh Cry Club00:27 Grieving Dolly Parton03:17 Dolly Legacy and Love05:58 Concert Memories and Humor07:32 Remembering Tim Curry09:52 Aging and Big Questions11:53 Supporting Depressed Partners15:05 Boundaries and Codependency16:19 Depression Impact and Differences17:53 Gendered Coping Patterns18:22 Caretaker Trap and Control20:06 Enabling and Fear of Loss21:26 Accepting Change in Partners22:42 Mindful Communication Habits23:40 Passive Aggression Check26:07 Better Talks and Couples Therapy29:12 Conversation Ground Rules32:10 Depression Is Not About You34:41 Redefining Relationship Success36:41 Closing and Community Support

  3. Aug 16

    The Interplay of Nature and Nurture in Our Lives

    Nature vs. Nurture: Free Will, Genetics, and Breaking AutopilotJoy and Rebecca, licensed therapists hosting the Laugh Cry Club podcast, discuss nature versus nurture and how genetics and environment interact rather than compete. They reference a 2015 meta-analysis of over 14 million twin pairs and about 18,000 traits, noting an average heritability around 49% and explaining that heritability reflects variation within a population, not a direct percentage of a person caused by genes. They share personal examples of inherited traits (introversion, skepticism, and family patterns like sexuality) and nurtured values like compassion and open-mindedness, and mention the Mackenzie Shirilla case as a lack-of-nurture example. They explore free will within life’s constraints, encourage curiosity about default behaviors, and address how phrases like “that’s just how I am” or “I’m just being honest” can be defenses that shut down accountability. They caution against toxic positivity and emphasize pausing, repairing harm, and focusing on what you can control.00:00 Podcast Welcome00:46 NPR Car Talk Nostalgia02:06 What We Cover Here02:31 Nature Versus Nurture Intro03:26 Imposter Syndrome Spark05:03 Twin Study Findings06:26 Outliers And Misuse07:18 Inherited Traits Examples09:54 Nurture Values And Family10:38 Case Study Mackenzie12:01 Baseline And Free Will13:22 Grace Versus Shaming15:08 Challenging Our Patterns15:25 Feedback Fight Reflection16:23 Shame And Threat16:39 Thats Just How I Am18:13 Honesty As Defense20:27 Listen For Deflections21:21 Autopilot And Change23:33 Toxic Positivity Pushback25:40 Life Cards And Control31:28 Stretch Into Discomfort32:51 Relationship Repair Example33:48 Closing And Contact

  4. Aug 10

    Navigating Fame: The Mental Health Challenges Celebrities Face

    Celebrity Mental Health, Live-Streamed Crises, and How to Respond CompassionatelyLicensed therapists Joy and Rebecca discuss recent mental health news involving celebrities and what it reveals about fame, projection, parasocial relationships, and social media’s impact. They address reports that blogger Perez Hilton experienced a severe self-harm crisis that was live-streamed and explore why someone might broadcast self-harm as a distant but “safe” cry for help, referencing similar public struggles (Aaron Carter’s addiction-related posts and musician Ryan Adams’ isolating social media behavior). They caution against normalizing public takedowns and body commentary, noting headlines about Ariana Grande’s appearance and how society’s judgment can intensify harm, citing Ingrid Andress’ public intoxication and rehab and the shame faced by Milli Vanilli. They also discuss postpartum psychosis in relation to the Clancy trial, urge direct supportive questioning, explain how therapists assess suicidal ideation and when holds/wellness checks may occur, and share 988 as a U.S. crisis resource.00:00 Welcome to Laugh Cry Club01:07 Why Celebrity Mental Health01:49 Pressure and Projection03:44 Vultures and Yes People05:19 Social Media Witnessing06:21 Perez Hilton Crisis09:38 Why Live Stream Self Harm11:38 Ryan Adams and Isolation16:18 Parasocial Access and Helplessness17:53 Fame Doubt and Support19:50 Next Headlines Ariana and Clancy20:23 Postpartum fears and stigma22:03 Spotting signs and asking directly23:15 Therapy and 72-hour holds24:27 Suicide risk assessment steps26:31 Police wellness checks explained30:26 Ariana Grande and body talk32:14 Celebrity shame and projection34:06 Fame takedowns then and now36:14 Coldplay scandal and accountability37:28 988 resources and goodbye

  5. Aug 3

    The Projection Factor: Understanding Our Emotional Mirrors

    Projection: What It Says About Us (You Spot It, You Got It)Joy and Rebecca catch up about the end of summer and shifting seasons before exploring psychological projection—attributing one’s own positive or negative traits, feelings, or insecurities to others—as a defense mechanism tied to survival and self-protection. They discuss how projection can show up in work dynamics (Joy’s toxic boss triggering her inner critic), diet culture reactions amid GLP-1/peptide trends, road rage, anger at rule-breaking (e-bikes), irritation with bragging, and frustration toward social-media “coaches,” highlighting themes of jealousy, unfairness, and identity. They note projection can also be positive through idolizing traits we desire. The hosts encourage curiosity and self-reflection—asking “Is this about them or me?”—and reference Martha Beck’s “You Spot It, You Got It,” 00:00 Welcome Back Catch Up00:48 Fall Feelings Anxiety02:13 Loving Season Changes03:20 Projection Intro04:23 Boss Trigger Example05:12 What Projection Is07:05 You Spot It You Got It08:11 Diet Culture Projection10:31 Road Rage And Rules13:07 Social Media Jealousy15:46 Now What To Do16:27 Steps To Self Reflect16:49 Lazy People Trigger17:29 Projection Self Protection19:00 Therapy Mirror Moment19:49 Beliefs Turn Ugly24:23 Identity And Survival25:33 Positive Projection26:04 Personal Triggers Share27:38 Micromanage And Misread30:37 Curiosity And Wrap Up

  6. Jul 27

    Navigating the Inner Critic: Turning Self-Doubt into Strength

    Befriending Your Inner Critic: From Harsh Voice to Overprotective BodyguardJoy and Rebecca celebrate two years of the Laugh Cry Club and introduce the episode’s topic: the inner critic. They discuss visualizing or naming the critic to separate it from the self, using a “parts” framework (including internal family systems) to explain how different parts of us show up in different environments. They describe how the inner critic can become louder under stress, especially around unstructured time, productivity pressures, and work performance, often labeling someone as “lazy” and creating physical discomfort. They trace roots to upbringing, generational messages, comparison, and survival needs, emphasizing curiosity over fighting the voice. They offer tools: identify triggers, name feelings, practice self-compassion, differentiate accountability (“I made a mistake”) from shame (“I am a mistake”), consider toxic environments, and be cautious with social media. They reframe the critic as an overprotective bodyguard and share personal examples involving weekends and assembling expensive equipment.00:00 Welcome Back Intro00:43 Two Year Anniversary01:37 What We Do Here02:02 Meet The Inner Critic03:40 Parts Work Explained06:11 Turning Critic Into Ally07:43 When It Gets Loud11:01 Productivity And Laziness14:38 Where It Comes From16:48 Survival Brain Connection17:46 Why The Critic Exists18:36 Curiosity Over Fighting19:43 Work Reviews Trigger It21:03 Toxic Environments Amplify22:38 Tracing Fear To Survival24:16 Self Compassion Pep Talk25:22 Social Media Validation Trap26:25 Accountability Versus Shame27:45 Can People Really Change30:23 Bodyguard Reframe Takeaways32:05 Real Life Inner Critic Examples34:29 Wrap Up And Goodbye

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Hosted by licensed mental health therapists who laugh and cry as much as you do. New episodes every Monday. We explore the psychology behind the stories everyone is talking about—from documentaries and reality TV to relationships, current events, and everyday life. With compassion, humor, and practical insights, we help you better understand yourself and others. Every emotion is welcome, every story has something to teach us.