Atlantic staff writer Michael Powell, our guest on the last BCB episode where we discussed NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani and the rise of anti-Zionism on the left, rejoins us for a second conversation about his searing new piece, "The Cities That Said Yes to Drugs," which is now available online and will be published in the September issue of The Atlantic. When David was reporting for Seattle's NPR affiliate, he interviewed a family living a couple of blocks from the open-air drug market in Little Saigon. Their daughter's school was on the other side of it. It wasn't just the degradation she walked past every morning, with people "shooting up in their neck to get a vein, and if they can't find a vein in their neck, you see them bent over, looking between their toes:" the family said she was getting followed, harassed and threatened, until they finally gave up and put her on a bus for a long commute across Lake Washington to a different school. These were progressive, compassionate people who wanted folks on that corner to get help. They called the city. Nothing ever changed. That’s where we start this episode. Powell spent months working on his piece, which is built around on the ground reporting in Seattle, Vancouver, B.C. and Burlington, Vermont: three well-off, well-meaning, self-consciously progressive places where street addiction is rampant and, he argues, is enabled by a radicalized version of “harm reduction” policies that seek to normalize addiction. In Seattle, he spent time in Little Saigon, Pioneer Square and Dr. Jose Rizal Park, and what he found, he tells us, was "a sad and depressing thing to see in a city that has the resources and the ability to do something other than what it's doing." We trace how we got here, from the early days of harm reduction, which originated as a pushback to the counterproductive excesses of the War on Drugs as well as a response to the early years of the AIDS epidemic, where the public health benefits of needle exchange programs were obvious. And which then led to Vancouver opening the first supervised injection site, which has now been replicated in dozens of other cities. We then discuss the central question at the heart of Powell’s piece: is it the case that somewhere along the way a movement built to keep people alive until they could get help turned into a movement that says addiction is just a lifestyle we shouldn't judge? Powell says that if you think about your own family members, the problem with that approach becomes obvious. "Whenever I hear 'meet an addict where he or she is,'" Powell says, "I think, actually, it's a pretty grim place where they're at, and we should by no means assume that's where they want to remain for the rest of their life." And we also delve into the glaring social costs of rampant addiction, often ignored by harm reduction advocates. Powell describes standing in the little pocket park built for Little Saigon's families at four in the afternoon watching 25 addicts openly using drugs, no kids, no parents, while the only city presence he saw all day was a team handing out foil and pipes in red packets stamped with the image of Martin Luther King Jr. We also discuss the pushback to Powell's view in Seattle and other blue cities: that none of this is a policy failure, it's only a funding failure, a stance with which Powell disagrees. Powell says the response to the piece has been strong and has come mostly from people who very much do not want the war on drugs back but think the current, libertarian approach is not working. If you value Blue City Blues, help us keep it going and make the jump to video by contributing at Patreon.com/BlueCityBlues. OUTSIDE SOURCES: Michael Powell, "The Cities That Said Yes to Drugs," The Atlantic, July 30, 2026. Blue City Blues, "Maia Szalavitz Makes the Case for Harm Reduction Policies in Blue Cities" — the other side of this argument, from a leading defender of harm reduction. Blue City Blues, "Michael Powell on Mamdani, Anti-Zionism, and the New Socialism," July 31, 2026. Blue City Blues, "Neil Gong on How Class Dynamics Shape Or Approach to the Mentally Ill on the Streets of Los Angeles," Jan. 5, 2026. Neil Gong, Sons, Daughters, and Sidewalk Psychotics: Mental Illness and the Failure of American Psychiatry, University of Chicago Press (2024). Please send your feedback, guest and show ideas to bluecitypodcast@gmail.com