Labia Logic

Dr Ashley Fuller, Dr Meredith McClure

Your vulva has a lot to say, and we're here to translate. When was your last conversation about vulvas? We're guessing it was at your most recent OBGYN appointment, if then. But Dr Meredith McClure and Dr Ashley Fuller talk about vulvas all day, every day. Because just like any other body part, a healthy vulva is important to overall health and well being. So, what would your vulva like you to know? (First message: "I'm not the vagina!") In this podcast you'll learn the proper names of all the down-there areas, how to keep them healthy, what annoyingly persistent myths about your reproductive organs you can ignore, and so much more. Join us every two weeks for fascinating conversations with experts and learn what you should have been taught long ago. It's not about embarrassment, it's about empowerment! Find Labia Logic on Instagram @labia_logic Find Dr. Ashley Fuller at https://www.ashleyfullermd.com/ Find Dr. Meredith McClure at https://meredithmccluremd.com/ Labia Logic podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine. The content of this podcast should never be considered a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.

  1. 4d ago

    36. Dare to Care: The Future of Women's Sexual Health

    Why do men get decades of sexual-health innovation while women are still told to wait, cope, or buy something vaguely "wellness-adjacent" from their social media feed? And why are conditions that affect quality of life, relationships, pleasure, and reproductive health still treated like optional extras instead of actual healthcare? Sabrina Martucci Johnson, founder and CEO of Daré Bioscience, joins this episode of Labia Logic to talk about the costly, complicated, and long-overdue work of developing better treatments for women. Sabrina explains why she founded Daré, how women's health receives only a fraction of private healthcare investment, and why existing science can often be reformulated into solutions designed specifically for female bodies. Sabrina also shares what Daré is developing next, including a monthly vaginal ring for menopause hormone therapy, a hormone-free contraceptive, and a vaginal antiviral treatment for high-risk HPV. Because women's health is not niche. It is essential, overdue, and worth doing right. Links: darebioscience.com Instagram @darebioscience TikTok @sabrinadareceo LinkedIn @sabrina-martucci-johnson   About Our Guest: Sabrina Martucci Johnson doesn't just talk about the gap in women's health – she's working to close it. In 2015 she founded Daré Bioscience on a straightforward thesis: the science exists, the need is real, and the market is massive. What's been missing is execution. Under her leadership, Daré has built a pipeline of first-in-category product candidates spanning contraception, sexual health, menopause, vaginal health, and infectious disease, and is now bringing them to market. Sabrina's edge is the combination of scientific credibility and commercial discipline. She started as a research scientist at Baxter Healthcare, moved through commercial and financial leadership at Cypress Bioscience (NASDAQ:CYPB) and WomanCare Global (as both CFO and COO), and built Daré from the ground up. She understands the biology, controls the financials, and knows how to launch. That trifecta is uncommon in any CEO. In women's health, it's nearly singular. She holds degrees in Biomedical Engineering (Tulane), Biochemical Engineering (University College London), and International Management (Thunderbird). She serves on the boards of AtaiBeckley, Biocom California (as chair), and BIO. Her work has been recognized by Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year (Pacific Southwest), Fierce Pharma's Most Influential People in Biopharma, the Medicine Maker Power List, and Endpoints Women in Biopharma. Women's health has been underfunded, understudied, and underestimated for decades. Sabrina Martucci Johnson is doing something about it. More about the hosts of Labia Logic: Dr. Ashley Fuller is a Sexual Medicine Gynecologist and Vulvar Specialist in Seattle, WA. www.ashleyfullermd.com Dr. Meredith McClure is a Menopause Specialist, Sexual Medicine Gynecologist, and Vulvar Specialist in Dallas, TX. www.meredithmccluremd.com Follow the show on Instagram @labia_logic This episode was produced by Audiotocracy Podcast Production.

    36. Dare to Care: The Future of Women's Sexual Health
  2. Jul 8

    35. Your Vulva Called: She wants her hormones back with Dr. Rachel Rubin

    What even is the vestibule, why does nobody talk about it, and how many people are out here being told their vulvar pain is "just in their head"?  On this episode of Labia Logic, Dr. Rachel Rubin joins Dr. Ashley Fuller and Dr. Meredith McClure for a no-filter conversation about hormones, painful sex, vaginal estrogen, menopause care, and the body parts that deserve way better PR. They can't say it enough — the vulva is not just "the vagina," and yes, that matters. Dr. Rubin brings her signature mix of evidence, rage, humor, and big urology energy to the conversation, breaking down why sexual medicine and vulvar health are still so misunderstood in mainstream medicine. These three Docs talk about genitourinary syndrome of menopause, vaginal estrogen, hormone therapy, recurrent UTIs, pelvic pain, vestibulodynia, birth control-related sexual side effects, and why so many clinicians are still missing basic, treatable causes of pain with sex.  They also discuss the importance of shared decision-making, informed consent, and actually listening to patients instead of sending them home with yet another shrug. Listeners will learn why vaginal hormones can be life-changing, how the vestibule can be a major source of pain and urinary symptoms, and why better education for both patients and clinicians is urgently needed.  Links: www.rachelrubinmd.com @drrachelrubin on Instagram @rachel-rubin on LinkedIn @rachelSrubin on Facebook @drrachelrubi125 on X   About Our Guest: Dr. Rachel Rubin is a board-certified urologist and nationally recognized leader in sexual medicine. She is the founder of a patient-centered sexual health practice in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles; an assistant clinical professor of urology at Georgetown University and a former director-at-large for the International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health. She helped shape the 2025 AUA guidelines for Genitourinary Syndrome of Menopause and led national efforts to remove the FDA's boxed warning on menopausal hormone therapy. She is also the founder of SMRT [pronounced SMART] — the Sexual Medicine Research Team, which is pioneering new research and developing the next generation of clinician-researchers. Dr. Rubin is known for her evidence-based, practical approach to sexual health and her commitment to educating clinicians across disciplines. Her expertise has been featured in major media outlets, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Economist, Oprah Daily, NPR, and CBS Morning News. More about the hosts of Labia Logic: Dr. Ashley Fuller is a Sexual Medicine Gynecologist and Vulvar Specialist in Seattle, WA.  www.ashleyfullermd.com Dr. Meredith McClure is a Menopause Specialist, Sexual Medicine Gynecologist, and Vulvar Specialist in Dallas, TX. www.meredithmccluremd.com Follow the show on Instagram @labia_logic  This episode was produced by Audiotocracy Podcast Production.

    35. Your Vulva Called: She wants her hormones back with Dr. Rachel Rubin
  3. Jun 24

    34. Let Me Tell You What I Want, What I Really Really Want: The Sex Communication Survival Guide

    Can sex still feel good when pain, aging, chronic illness, or life changes get in the way? What does a sex counselor actually do? And how do you tell your partner that what used to work… doesn't quite work anymore, without making everyone want to crawl under the bed and hide?  Sexologist Dr. Heather Howard joins Drs Ashley & Meredith on this episode of Labia Logic to explain how she helps people have more comfortable, connected, and realistic conversations about sex. Dr. Howard explains what sexology and sexuality counseling really look like, especially for people navigating pelvic pain, chronic health conditions, desire differences, cancer, orthopedic issues, Peyronie's disease, aging bodies, and the very common "my libido has left the chat" experience. She also shares her Ergo Erotics Process, which helps individuals and couples rethink intimacy through comfort, creativity, positioning, movement strategies, and communication instead of assuming sex has to follow one very narrow script. There are no "shoulds" in sex, the brain is absolutely part of the sexual response, and pain, low desire, and physical limitations do not mean anyone is broken. This conversation covers how to start hard conversations with a partner, why planning ahead can make sex feel safer, how to create boundaries before things escalate, and why a satisfying sex life often requires a team approach.  As these Doctors always say, vulva is a team sport, and sometimes the most intimate thing you can do is stop pretending the old script still fits. Links: www.HeatherHoward.com www.Ergoerotics.com @drheatherhoward on LinkedIn  |  Facebook  |  Instagram   About Our Guest: Dr. Heather Howard is a sexuality counselor and financial coach who helps individuals and couples navigate challenges at the intersection of intimacy, health, and money. She holds a PhD in Human Sexuality and an MBA in Finance and Accounting, and is the founder of the Center for Sexual Health and Rehabilitation. She has served as faculty for Stanford School of Medicine and the California Institute of Integral Studies Human Sexuality programs. Her work supports clients experiencing sexual concerns related to chronic health conditions, pelvic pain, trauma, life transitions, and relationship stress. She also helps patients address financial stress that contributes to anxiety, relationship conflict, and avoidance of medical or sexual care. Through education, practical skill-building, andvalues-aligned financial systems, she helps clients reduce shame, improve communication around sensitive topics, and build healthier patterns that support emotional intimacy, sexual well-being, and greater relational vitality.   More about the hosts of Labia Logic: Dr. Ashley Fuller is a Sexual Medicine Gynecologist and Vulvar Specialist in Seattle, WA.  www.ashleyfullermd.com   Dr. Meredith McClure is a Menopause Specialist, Sexual Medicine Gynecologist, and Vulvar Specialist in Dallas, TX. www.meredithmccluremd.com   Follow the show on Instagram @labia_logic    This episode was produced by Audiotocracy Podcast Production.

    34. Let Me Tell You What I Want, What I Really Really Want: The Sex Communication Survival Guide
  4. Jun 10

    33. Who Taught You That?! Sex, Culture, and the Stories We Tell featuring Gynogirl

    What happens when culture, religion, shame, and a medical system that loves to say "it's all in your head" collide with sexual health?  Dr. Sameena Rahman, the GynoGirl, joins Drs. Ashley Fuller and Meredith McClure for this episode of Labia Logic. These three docs get into the big stuff: pelvic pain, vulvar conditions, vaginismus, period shame, sexual dysfunction, and the very real ways women, especially women of color, are dismissed when they try to get help.  They also talk about Dr. Rahman's upcoming book Brown Girls' Disease: A Guide to Sexual Health and Empowerment Through a South Asian Lens, and unpack how cultural expectations, medical bias, religious messaging, and shame can shape the way patients experience their bodies and seek care.  Their conversation also covers why clinicians need to listen to the whole story, how vulvar disease can look different across skin tones, and why "just try harder" is not, in fact, a treatment plan. So yes, we're talking about vaginas, vulvas, bias, and Barbie movie pearl-clutching. As one does. Most importantly, this episode is a reminder that your body is not shameful, your pain is not imaginary, and saying the word "vagina" in public will not cause the earth to split open. Probably. Links: thegsmcollective.com @gynogirl on Instagram   About our Guest: Dr. Sameena Rahman is a board-certified OB/GYN and certified Menopause Practitioner with over a decade of expertise in midlife care, sexual medicine, and concierge gynecology. After training and practicing at leading institutions including USC, the University of Chicago, and Northwestern, she founded The GSM Collective in downtown Chicago to deliver a more personalized, patient-first model of women's healthcare. She hosts the podcast Gynogirl Presents: Sex, Drugs & Hormones, along with her YouTube series GynoGirl TV, and is the forthcoming author of Brown Girl's Disease?—a bold, culturally grounded guide to sexual health and empowerment through a South Asian lens, launching in 2025. More about the hosts of Labia Logic: Dr. Ashley Fuller is a Sexual Medicine Gynecologist and Vulvar Specialist in Seattle, WA.  www.ashleyfullermd.com   Dr. Meredith McClure is a Menopause Specialist, Sexual Medicine Gynecologist, and Vulvar Specialist in Dallas, TX. www.meredithmccluremd.com   Follow the show on Instagram @labia_logic  This episode was produced by Audiotocracy Podcast Production.

    33. Who Taught You That?! Sex, Culture, and the Stories We Tell featuring Gynogirl
  5. May 27

    32. Vein, Vein, Go Away: The Pelvis Has a Plumbing Problem

    Pelvic pain that feels heavy, achy, bloated, or mysteriously worse by the end of the day? Pain after sex that lingers? Vulvar varicose veins, bladder urgency, or "everything looks normal" test results that definitely do not feel normal?  Dr. Julie Baron joins this episode of Labia Logic to get into pelvic venous congestion — also called pelvic venous disorders — and why this often-overlooked cause of chronic pelvic pain deserves a much bigger seat at the exam-room table. Julie shares her own experience with years of unexplained pelvic and abdominal pain, how she finally found answers through vascular imaging, and why pelvic venous disorders can overlap with symptoms like bloating, urinary urgency, painful sex, vulvar discomfort, hemorrhoids, varicose veins, POTS, EDS, MCAS, and more. In other words: the pelvis is not a simple neighborhood, and the veins may be causing more drama than anyone realized. Listeners will learn the classic signs of venous pelvic pain, why standard imaging can miss the bigger picture, and why "just do Kegels" is not the answer here. The conversation also covers treatment options, vascular referrals, stents, embolization, and why finding the right provider matters.  Most importantly, this episode offers validation for anyone who has been told their pain is incidental, imaginary, or "just motherhood." Your body is not being dramatic. It may just need someone willing to look at the whole picture. Links: drjuliebaron.com @drjuliebaron on Instagram   About Our Guest: Dr. Julie Baron is a pelvic floor and orthopedic physical therapist and the Director of the Pelvic Health & Performance Center in Bellevue, Washington.  Dr. Baron holds a Doctorate in Physical Therapy from Rutgers University and brings 17 years of clinical experience to her work. She has advanced training in pelvic floor rehabilitation, prenatal and postpartum care, strength and conditioning, and complex orthopedic conditions. Her clinical work is grounded in a holistic, whole-person approach to pelvic health. She is internationally recognized for her work advancing awareness and clinical understanding of Pelvic Venous Disorders (PeVD). Dr. Baron lectures widely to physical therapists and healthcare providers, presenting at major international conferences and educational events. Her work is also being incorporated into the continuing education curriculum for pelvic health clinicians through Herman & Wallace, helping expand education on vascular contributions to pelvic pain for providers across the field. Her professional focus is informed not only by her extensive clinical experience, but also by her own journey navigating chronic pelvic pain and PeVD—an experience that continues to shape her patient-centered approach and her commitment to education, research, and advocacy. More about the hosts of Labia Logic: Dr. Ashley Fuller is a Sexual Medicine Gynecologist and Vulvar Specialist in Seattle, WA.  www.ashleyfullermd.com Dr. Meredith McClure is a Menopause Specialist, Sexual Medicine Gynecologist, and Vulvar Specialist in Dallas, TX. www.meredithmccluremd.com Follow the show on Instagram @labia_logic This episode was produced by Audiotocracy Podcast Production.

    32. Vein, Vein, Go Away: The Pelvis Has a Plumbing Problem
  6. May 13

    31. Lady Parts, Painful Sex, and the Vulva Story We Should've Heard Sooner

    What if painful sex, tampon pain, or that "something is wrong down there" feeling was not something to quietly tolerate, joke away, or fix with the world's least helpful advice: "just have a glass of wine"?  In this episode of Labia Logic, Dr. Ashley Fuller and Dr. Meredith McClure welcome filmmaker and storyteller Bonnie Gross, creator of Lady Parts, a comedy feature inspired by her own experience with vestibulodynia, painful sex, repeated misdiagnoses, and eventually a vestibulectomy. They talk about why vulvar pain is so often misunderstood, why vulvodynia is sometimes more of a starting point than a full answer, and how conditions like recurrent yeast infections and pelvic floor dysfunction can overlap. They also explain why doctors really need to learn the word vulva before your feet go up and they go poking around with a speculum. Vulvar pain deserves real medical attention, a painful exam should never be brushed off, and patients should trust themselves when something feels wrong. These are facts. Non-negotiables. You deserve answers, care, and pleasure without pain. Period.  Links: ladypartsfilm.com Lady Parts on IMDB letterboxd.com/film/lady-parts-2024/ rottentomatoes.com/m/lady_parts @ladyparts_film on IG @ladypartsthemovie on Facebook @shake_ur_bonbon on TikTok @ladypartsfilm on YouTube   About Our Guest: Bonnie Gross is an award-winning comedy writer, producer, and post-production pro who's never met a taboo topic she couldn't turn into a smart, comical, and relatable story. She has a passion for telling authentic stories that focus on the realities of living with chronic vulvovaginal and pelvic pain, which she believes deserve far more screen time. Originally from Philadelphia and now based in New York City, Bonnie earned her B.A. in Media Production from the University of Alabama and completed the UCLA Professional Program in TV Comedy Writing in 2018. Her most recent film Lady Parts, now streaming on Amazon Prime, is an autobiographical comedy inspired by her own experience navigating the vulvovaginal health care world, which earned the Special Jury Award for Screenwriting at the Florida Film Festival and the Jury Award for Best Comedy Feature at the Austin Film Festival.  Bonnie has worked for several years in post-production at Encore Hollywood and Light Iron, working on an array of television shows and films. She now co-owns Brainwomb, a boutique finishing house in NYC where she partners with filmmakers to shape their stories at every stage of the post-production process.  She has also written, produced, and edited comedic content for the media brand It's a Southern Thing, and regularly creates her own offbeat comedy videos for social media. In addition to her creative work, Bonnie serves as the social media manager and a campaign team volunteer for Tight Lipped, a grassroots advocacy organization by and for people with chronic vulvovaginal and pelvic pain. More about the hosts of Labia Logic: Dr. Ashley Fuller is a Sexual Medicine Gynecologist and Vulvar Specialist in Seattle, WA.  www.ashleyfullermd.com   Dr. Meredith McClure is a Menopause Specialist, Sexual Medicine Gynecologist, and Vulvar Specialist in Dallas, TX. www.meredithmccluremd.com   Follow the show on Instagram @labia_logic  This episode was produced by Audiotocracy Podcast Production.

    31. Lady Parts, Painful Sex, and the Vulva Story We Should've Heard Sooner
  7. May 6

    30. Vulvar Pain Is Not "All in Your Head"… But Your Brain Is Definitely Involved

    Have you ever asked about your vulvar pain and been told… "it's normal," "it's stress," or the deeply unhelpful classic, "just relax"?  In this episode, Labia Logic Dr. Adriana Martí joins the conversation to get into the very real, very frustrating world of chronic vulvar pain. Dr. Marti is a clinical health psychologist and she joins Dr. Ashely Fuller and Dr. Meredith McClure to share why treating chronic vulvar pain usually takes more than one magic pill, one procedure, or one awkward appointment where everyone avoids saying the word vulva. They discuss why chronic pain is different from acute pain, how the brain and nervous system can amplify pain signals, why catastrophizing is not a character flaw, and how stress, trauma, loneliness, relationships, and self-criticism can all turn the pain volume way up.  This episode covers how pain education, cognitive behavioral therapy, acceptance and commitment therapy, pain reprocessing, and a biopsychosocial approach can help people relate to pain differently and reclaim more of their lives.  We're here to offer validation, practical hope, and the much-needed reminder that chronic vulvar pain is complex, treatable, and deserving of care that sees the whole person, not just the body part causing the drama. About our Guest: Dr. Adriana Martí is a Health Psychologist who was born and raised in Havana, Cuba. From an early age Dr. Martí experienced the challenges of poverty and lack of freedom of speech. That's when she realized that she wanted to use her voice and skills to make a profound impact in the world. Dr. Martí left Cuba at the age of 12 and embarked on her journey to make a difference by choosing a career in the healthcare field. Coming from a family of physicians, Dr. Martí learned the importance of addressing physical components to heal the body. She also noticed the weaknesses of the biomedical approaches and recognized the need of integrative models to help individuals shift from disease into ease.  Dr. Martí has used her bilingual and bicultural assets to positively influence various medical settings, program development, management, underserved populations, and has mentored a myriad of students and medical personnel on the value of mind body approaches. Dr. Martí is very passionate about making a difference in the community and spends her free time learning about the latest advances in the field of chronic pain and contributing to research. Links: www.martipsychologicalservices.com Connect on IG @martipsychologicalservices Connect on LinkedIn @adriana-marti-psyd Connect on Facebook @martipsychologicalservices More about the hosts of Labia Logic: Dr. Ashley Fuller is a Sexual Medicine Gynecologist and Vulvar Specialist in Seattle, WA.  www.ashleyfullermd.com   Dr. Meredith McClure is a Menopause Specialist, Sexual Medicine Gynecologist, and Vulvar Specialist in Dallas, TX. www.meredithmccluremd.com Follow the show on Instagram @labia_logic  This episode was produced by Audiotocracy Podcast Production.

    30. Vulvar Pain Is Not "All in Your Head"… But Your Brain Is Definitely Involved
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Your vulva has a lot to say, and we're here to translate. When was your last conversation about vulvas? We're guessing it was at your most recent OBGYN appointment, if then. But Dr Meredith McClure and Dr Ashley Fuller talk about vulvas all day, every day. Because just like any other body part, a healthy vulva is important to overall health and well being. So, what would your vulva like you to know? (First message: "I'm not the vagina!") In this podcast you'll learn the proper names of all the down-there areas, how to keep them healthy, what annoyingly persistent myths about your reproductive organs you can ignore, and so much more. Join us every two weeks for fascinating conversations with experts and learn what you should have been taught long ago. It's not about embarrassment, it's about empowerment! Find Labia Logic on Instagram @labia_logic Find Dr. Ashley Fuller at https://www.ashleyfullermd.com/ Find Dr. Meredith McClure at https://meredithmccluremd.com/ Labia Logic podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine. The content of this podcast should never be considered a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.

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