Closet Philosophy

Jennine Jacob and Kristen Philipkoski

Think it doesn't matter what you wear? Hosts Jennine Jacob and Kristen Philipkoski uncover the ways your personal style is not just personal. What you choose to wear every day is a political act, whether you're aware of it or not. And putting thought into your personal style is not superficial, unintelligent, or a waste of time. Along with guests including bestselling authors, scientists, entrepreneurs, and more, the Closet Philosophy podcast explores how what we wear influences and reveals what's within.

  1. OCT 13

    Beyond body positivity—A conversation about body liberation with Chrissy King

    In this episode, Jennine and Kristen speak with writer, speaker, and educator Chrissy King, author of The Body Liberation Project. Chrissy dives deep into how fashion, fitness, and wellness intersect with social justice, race, and body image. The conversation moves beyond "body positivity," exploring body liberation as systemic social change—not just self-love. Listeners will learn why true inclusion requires rethinking everything from clothing access to medical practices, and how concepts of beauty and thinness are tied to politics and control. Chrissy merges expertise in social justice, sociology, and fitness coaching. With work published in Shape, Health South, and POPSUGAR, Chrissy empowers all bodies to take up space and redefines wellness as collective liberation. We discuss: p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> The limits of body positivity vs. body liberation p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Systemic oppression and body-based bias p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Fatphobia and its cultural/political roots p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Health misconceptions and lived experience p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Serena Williams, Lizzo, and representation p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Age, menopause, and changing bodies p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Inclusion in fashion and fitness industries p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Social justice and intersectionality p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Coping strategies in today's culture wars p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Books and accounts for further reading Quotes: p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> "Body liberation is less about loving everything you see in the mirror, and more about understanding the vessel you live in is always worthy of respect." p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> "Thinness and beauty standards are less about health, and more about control." p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> "Representation helps people of every size, age, and identity give themselves permission to be seen." Takeaways and resources: p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Follow Chrissy King's work for deeper dives into intersectionality and body acceptance. p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Recommended reads: The Body Liberation Project by Chrissy King, The Beauty Mythby Naomi Wolf, Fearing the Black Body by Sabrina Strings. p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Explore body-positive and size-inclusive influencers, and seek supportive communities both online and offline for healing.

    53 min
  2. OCT 6

    Ep. 25: Plus size representation, photography, and finding beauty in every body with Lydia Hudgens

    In this episode, Kristen and Jennine talk with photographer Lydia Hudgens, whose new book Plus: Expanding the Frame features 100% plus-size models and is the first of its kind. Lydia shares her journey from street-style photographer to celebrating body diversity through her lens, the state of plus-size representation in fashion today, and how posing can empower confidence for every body type. They also explore how the rise of GLP-1 weight loss drugs, post-pandemic beauty standards, and internalized fatphobia are reshaping conversations about body image and inclusivity. Lydia discusses her modeling classes, why she believes representation matters across generations, and how her work helps people see the beauty in themselves that they might have forgotten was there. We discuss: The inspiration behind Plus: Expanding the Frame How fashion's body inclusivity has backslid in recent years The impact of GLP-1 drugs on representation and body image "Aspirational plus size," and why it's problematic How age, tattoos, and size intersect in modeling Why posing can help you feel more confident and connected to your body The message Lydia hopes her book will leave with readers Guest: Lydia Hudgens — photographer, model, and advocate for body diversity. Her work has appeared in Vogue, Teen Vogue, Glamour, and more, and her clients include Anthropologie, Reformation, and Rent the Runway. Her book Plus: Expanding the Frame is available now. Follow Lydia: Instagram: @lydiahudgens (photography) @lydiaoffduty (modeling) Lydia's  website Buy Lydia's book: Plus: Expanding the Frame

    1h 1m
  3. SEP 8

    Ep. 22: Menopause, perimenopause, and personal power with 'The M Factor' producer Denise Pines

    In this episode of Closet Philosophy, hosts Jennine and Kristen sit down with Denise Pines, an influential filmmaker and leader in the effort to normalize conversations about perimenopause and menopause.  She's a Peabody-winning filmmaker, health advocate, founder of Tea Botanics and WisePause Wellness, and president of the Osteopathic Medical Board of California. Together, they unravel the cultural silence around menopause and perimenopause, discuss Denise's influential documentaries (The M Factor and upcoming Before the Pause, and explore how personal style, society, and women's health intersect. Highlights Denise's personal and professional journey in women's health, filmmaking, and advocacy The impact of The M Factor and the new focus on perimenopause in Before the Pause Why perimenopause and menopause remain so misunderstood—and what has to change in medicine and culture The legislative fight to improve menopause training for doctors in California (AB 360 and beyond) Common but rarely discussed menopause symptoms, and why early education matters How Denise balances her multifaceted career and the wellness routines that keep her energized When Denise met Prince (!) How aging changes personal expression, style, and purpose Connect with Denise: LinkedIn The M Factor: Shredding the Silence on Menopause If this episode resonated, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and share Closet Philosophy with your friends!

    49 min
  4. SEP 2

    Ep. 21: Jennine and Kristen on the power of visibility after 40

    Jennine and Kristen dive deep into the complex experience of visibility for women as they age, sharing candid stories and discussing cultural, psychological, and societal shifts that impact self-expression and confidence beyond 40. This episode explores the challenges women face in retaining visibility, feeling confident, and expressing authentic style, offering hope and actionable insights for listeners. Key Topics: The first personal experiences of feeling invisible: Jennine and Kristen recount moments in retail and influencer settings where age influenced how they were treated. The myth that women's value revolves around youth and male attention, and the shifting priorities toward self-authenticity in later years. Statistics from a menopause and aging study: Over two-thirds of women over 45 feel ignored by men in public spaces, and many cite issues like graying hair and access to fashionable clothing as confidence barriers. The challenge and power of speaking up: Including an incident at a coffee shop that went viral, and how fear of being labeled a "Karen" hinders self-advocacy for older women. Personal style as visibility: Discussion of how style can be a tool for self-expression and why hiding in "invisible" clothing is a missed opportunity during the most powerful years of women's lives. Erasure of older women in media and fashion, contrasted with real examples of powerful, stylish women over 50, and how Hollywood continues to favor male experience at the expense of older female visibility. Breaking stereotypes: Examples from film, fashion, and real life illustrating authenticity, confidence, and visibility for women at any age. Quotes to Remember: "Women want to be seen for who they are now—not as a younger version of themselves." "Visibility is not just about being seen by men; it's about being recognized and respected in your own right." "Now is the time to figure out what visibility means and how to pursue it with intention." Call to Action: How do you want to be visible? Share your story with us—we want to hear from listeners! Drop a comment or get in touch to join the conversation on confidence, style, and living authentically at every age.

    46 min
5
out of 5
12 Ratings

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Think it doesn't matter what you wear? Hosts Jennine Jacob and Kristen Philipkoski uncover the ways your personal style is not just personal. What you choose to wear every day is a political act, whether you're aware of it or not. And putting thought into your personal style is not superficial, unintelligent, or a waste of time. Along with guests including bestselling authors, scientists, entrepreneurs, and more, the Closet Philosophy podcast explores how what we wear influences and reveals what's within.

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