With Hat and Cattle

Dani Raschel Chou

With Hat and Cattle is built on stories that are earned, not borrowed. We sit down with people who’ve put in the miles, learned the hard lessons, and kept showing up when it would’ve been easier to quit. This is a place for straight talk and quiet wisdom. You know, qualities that many Texans hold dear.  These are stories meant to be listened to slow, turned over, and carried with you. Because when you hear from people who truly walk the walk, you don’t just feel inspired. You leave better for it.

  1. 2d ago

    We Are Not Prisoners to Our Pasts: My Story of Moving from Addiction to Recovery

    Can you actually recover from sex and love addiction, and build a life you’re proud of? Host Dani Raschel Chou says yes, and this week she tells her own story of living as a high functioning addict. After years of asking guests to be honest about the hardest parts of their lives, Dani hands the microphone to friend of the show Jeff Mercier and takes the guest seat herself. Dani Raschel Chou is the host and producer of With Hat and Cattle, a Dallas–Fort Worth podcast built on honest conversations with people who’ve put in the miles. In this episode, she shares that she is a recovering sex and love addict, and explains why that experience is the reason the show exists. In this conversation: growing up in Freer, Texas, and the 1,200-calorie dieting trap of the ’90s; the high school hallway moment when attention got wired to weight loss; three marriages and the pattern underneath them; the 2012 journal entry that read, “If I don’t change my ways, I’m going to end up dead in a hotel room”, whick finally acknowledged the problem; the therapist who gave the addiction its name; seven years of the real, unglamorous work; co-parenting done right; meeting Bryan; and the bad cup of coffee that proved the work works.  Told without graphic detail and without a tidy bow. It’s for anyone who has been told they are “just a” something, anyone carrying a past they think disqualifies them, and anyone who needs to hear that where you have been is not the ceiling on where you can go. Resources:  Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous (S.L.A.A.) — free meetings worldwide, slaafws.org.  National Alliance for Eating Disorders — free therapist-staffed helpline, Mon–Fri 9am–7pm ET, 1-866-662-1235, allianceforeatingdisorders.com.  In crisis, call or text 988 or chat at 988lifeline.org. Chapters 00:00 — Cold open: the journal entry 00:30 — A note from Dani before we begin 01:20 — Jeff takes the host chair 04:00 — Freer, Texas: grass and central air 07:00 — Childhood wounds and numbing the void 13:30 — Dieting in the ’90s: the 1,200-calorie trap 15:00 — The hallway: when attention became a drug 16:30 — Married at 18 19:00 — Losing 100 pounds — and the first affair 21:30 — The second marriage and the chat rooms 23:30 — “Dead in a hotel room”: the journal entry, in context 26:00 — Six years, a separation, and a move to Dallas 29:00 — Getting the label: sex and love addiction 30:30 — Where was my kid? Co-parenting done right 32:00 — The third marriage: “I’m battle-tested” 35:00 — Women, shame, and double standards 38:00 — Trading one addiction for another 39:00 — “No, we’re not doing this” 40:30 — The relapse 42:00 — Seven years with the right therapist 43:00 — What I chose not to share 44:00 — 2021: running vs. DoorDash 45:00 — Breaking the pattern 48:00 — Meeting Bryan 48:45 — The knife tattoo: “It’s not your job, it’s mine” 49:30 — The three-minute reset 52:00 — Honest from the first date 53:30 — Faith, grace, and a kinder God 56:00 — We are not prisoners to our past 57:00 — When you can’t make amends 58:45 — The woman at the well 59:30 — Next week: the Rubin Brothers Guest Host Information Connect with motivational speaker and DTM Jeffery Mercier on LinkedIn and follow him on Instagram. Find his episodes on With Hat and Cattle and listen now! Building a Personal Brand on Buzzsprout and SpotifyFraming the Future on Buzzsprout and SpotifyThat's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

  2. Jul 23

    How to Network and Communicate the Bushido Way: Real Advice for Introverts, Extroverts, and Ambiverts — Ely Delaney (Part 2)

    What does an 800-year-old samurai code have to do with your inbox? More than you’d think. In Part 2 of this conversation, marketing strategist Ely Delaney explains how the seven virtues of Bushido shaped both his business and his life, and why respect and kindness are practical skills, not soft ones. If you're finding us on Part 2, start with Part 1 for networking as an introvert, archery as meditation, and going deep on one skill. And please note: This episode includes a brief discussion of suicide. If you’re struggling, or worried about someone who is, call or text 988, the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, or chat at 988lifeline.org. Ely Delaney is a Dallas–Fort Worth email-nurture marketing strategist, the founder of Meet Cool People, and the author of The Seven Virtues of Email Marketing. In Part 2 of his conversation with host Dani Raschel Chou on With Hat and Cattle, the discussion moves from how to connect with people to why it matters. Ely explains how he found Bushido (the code of the samurai) in 2020, and how its seven virtues, including honesty, integrity, respect, kindness, and loyalty, became the framework for his book and his daily life. He calls it “ancient intelligence, or the other AI,” and argues that Buddhism, Stoicism, and Bushido are all answering the same question: how do you think, speak, and act well? Along the way he shares the three questions he asks before sending any email, why Stoicism teaches you how to react while Bushido teaches you how to act, and how to give someone hard feedback without becoming the jerk in the story. Dani shares the Google review she left years ago and still hasn’t deleted, and the moment at a World Cup match when someone told her to pick a side, and what she did instead of reacting. The episode closes on purpose, belonging, and Ely’s next project. Mentioned to help you find us: Bushido and the seven virtues, Stoicism, Dale Carnegie, T. Harv Eker’s Secrets of the Millionaire Mind, and Ely’s Seven Fold Projects.  This is the With Hat and Cattle Promise: Stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Chapters: 0:00 Cold open: kindness & respect 1:00 Bushido: the code of the samurai 2:00 You don't have to like someone to respect them 3:00 Ancient intelligence — "the other AI" 4:00 The seven virtues of email marketing 6:00 Why he finally wrote the book 8:00 Halloween announcement to April launch 10:00 The best feedback he's ever gotten 12:00 Which virtue matters most 13:00 Three questions before you hit send 14:00 The samurai's prayer on his wall 16:00 It was never really about email 17:00 The Google review she still hasn't deleted 18:00 Giving hard feedback without being a jerk 20:00 Stoicism reacts, Bushido acts 21:00 Trolls, hecklers, and disagreeing well 26:00 The pause: Dani's World Cup jersey story 29:00 Chaos energy and what stress costs you 32:00 The kitchen table 33:00 What's next: Seven Fold Projects 36:00 On men, belonging, and purpose 37:00 Thank you and close About the Guest Ely Delaney is the creator of the Follow Up Rockstar System, helping entrepreneurs build a 24/7 automated system and go from surviving to thriving in any economy. He’s a three-time Amazon bestseller, including his latest book, "The Follow Up Code: 7 Virtues for Building Trust Through Email" & his programs have over 1424 students globally.  Connect with him on LinkedIn. Learn more about him online here. That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

  3. Jul 16

    Networking for Introverts, Mastery, and Real Connection — Ely Delaney (Part 1)

    Can introverts actually be great at networking? Marketing strategist Ely Delaney says yes and proves it. In Part 1 of this conversation, Ely joins Dani Raschel Chou to unpack how to build real business relationships without faking extroversion, why mastering one skill beats dabbling in ten, and how archery became his meditation. Ely Delaney is your Email Marketing Architect and is also known as "The People Whisperer. He's the creator of The Follow Up Rockstar System, teaching entrepreneurs how to go from surviving to thriving in any economy through the art and science of building strong relationships and following up for LIFE." He's an Amazon bestseller with his three books "Marketing Tidbits", "Networking Tidbits", and his latest book, "The Follow Up Code: 7 Virtues for Building Trust Through Email". With a passion for connecting people, his best-selling training course "Networking Like a Rockstar" has over 1,424 students registered globally. And in Part 1 of this two-part conversation on With Hat and Cattle, host Dani Raschel Chou and Ely dig into the quiet skills that actually build a business: showing up, connecting, and getting deeply good at one thing. Ely explains how an introvert can work a room by leading with "who can I help?" instead of "who can help me," why he'll spend hours at an event without stepping inside, and why a cold shoulder is never worth taking personally. He shares how archery became a form of meditation, and how becoming the #1 longbow archer in the Northwest mirrors the focus behind his work. Then he and Dani turn to mastery: Jim Rohn's rule to spend five years getting great at one thing, what ghostwriting really means (pulling out your stories, never inventing them), and why "know, like, and trust" only works when loyalty comes with it. Mentioned in this episode: Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People, Bob Burg's The Go-Giver, and marketing writers Bob Bly and Dan Kennedy. This is Part 1. Part 2 goes deep on the seven virtues Ely built his life and business around, and that's dropping next week. You can find Ely on LinkedIn and on his site. Listen to his podcast here: Meet Cool People. And you can also buy his book The Follow Up Code: Seven Virtues for Building Trust Through Email on Amazon today! With Hat and Cattle: Stories from people who walk the walk, and leave you better off for listening. That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

  4. Jul 9

    Why AI Implementations Fail: It's Leadership, Not Technology l Conversation with AI Leader Amir Habib

    Amir Habib is a digital transformation and AI strategy executive with 25+ years of experience leading service delivery for some of the world's largest enterprise clients. In this conversation with host Dani Raschel Chou, Amir traces the entrepreneurial instincts that shaped his path: from a childhood dream of owning a chain of Buc-ee's, to selling phone cards and financial services, to a hard pivot into IT and, eventually, AI leadership. Amir and Dani get into why trust, not raw capability, is the real bottleneck for AI adoption: the truth-vs-trust gap in AI-assisted medical diagnosis, what actually happened when the U.S. government suspended access to Anthropic's Claude Fable 5 model, why AI implementations stall without leadership buy-in, and what AI means for executive assistants and other roles built on repeatable work. Amir also shares how he responds to AI phishing scams himself, and what it takes to stay grounded — in faith, family, and mentorship — while everything moves faster than ever. This is the With Hat and Cattle promise: stories from people who walk the walk, and leave you better off for listening. TIMESTAMPS 0:00 — Cold open: Meet Amir Habib 1:00 — Faith, family, and the entrepreneurial mindset 2:00 — From a Buc-ee's dream to falling in love with IT 4:00 — Family as your "why," and trusting your own pivots 7:00 — How to ask for mentorship (and handle rejection) 11:00 — Selling phone cards to selling yourself 16:00 — How Amir got intentional about learning AI 21:00 — What data centers actually do 25:00 — The truth vs. trust gap in AI 29:00 — Inside the Claude Fable 5 security story 31:00 — Protecting yourself from AI scams and phishing 34:00 — From "just an accountant" to trusted leader 35:00 — Why morning self-talk builds self-trust 36:00 — People over strategy: why AI needs buy-in to work 38:00 — AI, executive assistants, and the future of work 41:00 — Why critical thinking matters more, not less 42:00 — AI slop, LinkedIn, and trusting human creators 44:00 — Bad data in, bad AI out: building a successful AI journey 45:00 — Staying true to your true north CONNECT WITH AMIR HABIB LinkedIn: Amir Habib | LinkedIn Amir's appearance on Blackbelts and Boardrooms: S2.EP46 - Takes a Village of Leaders to Make a Leader w/ Amir Habib, Global Strategist at Stefanini ABOUT WITH HAT AND CATTLE With Hat and Cattle is a podcast built on one belief: the best lessons come from people who've actually lived them. Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou, this show features honest conversations with leaders, builders, and people who've learned through experience, not shortcuts. Stories from people who walk the walk, and leave you better off for listening.  If this episode helped you, the most useful thing you can do is leave a rating and review wherever you're listening — it's how new listeners find the show. That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

  5. Jul 2

    The Joe Exotic Pardon, a CEO Turned Insurance Agent, and a 9-Year-Old's Wisdom

    Eric “Big Juicy” Love led the campaign for Joe Exotic's presidential pardon. Colin Weatherwax walked away from a CEO title to sell insurance in a small Texas town. His 9-year-old daughter Kennedy might be the wisest person in the room. This episode is about what's actually left once the title, the title, and the tragedy are gone. And it's about joy. On this episode of With Hat and Cattle, Dani Raschel Chou sits down with three guests at once: Eric “Big Juicy” Love, Colin Weatherwax, and Colin's daughter, Kennedy. Eric is a Fort Worth private investigator and philanthropist who led the 2020–21 campaign for a presidential pardon of “Tiger King” star Joe Exotic. Colin spent years working his way to CEO of a nonprofit before an unexpected job loss led him to insurance sales in Roanoke, Texas. Kennedy, age 9, was named Mayor of Arlington for a Day during White Cane Safety Day. Together they talk about the difference between joy and happiness, what actually survives once a title disappears, how to keep showing up for people without being asked, and what it means to grieve — a dog, a job, a friendship — out loud. Eric also previews forgiveness, his upcoming documentary on people who've forgiven the unforgivable. This episode follows the With Hat and Cattle motto: stories from people who walk the walk, and leave you better off for listening. Guest Bios: Eric “Big Juicy” Love — Fort Worth private investigator, philanthropist, and self-described “professional friend-maker.” Led Team Tiger's 2020–21 campaign for a presidential pardon of Joe Exotic (Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/who-eric-love-tiger-king-team-tiger-pardon-joe-exotic-leader-1650352). Currently producing Forgiveness, a documentary on people who've forgiven the unforgivable. Colin Weatherwax — Former nonprofit CEO, now an insurance agent focused on home, auto, and key-person coverage in Roanoke, Texas. Known for intentional, no-agenda networking and staying in touch with the people who matter. Kennedy Weatherwax — Colin's 9-year-old daughter, named Mayor of Arlington, Texas for a Day during White Cane Safety Day. Reads in braille, plays piano, and has better advice than most adults. Episode Outline + Timestamps Joy vs. happiness, and why they're not the same thing [13:00] Colin's path from CEO to insurance agent, and the wake-up call that changed his definition of success [7:00, 14:00] The real story behind the Joe Exotic pardon campaign, from the person who ran it [19:00] How to build a network from nothing once the title's gone [21:00, 23:00] Kennedy's rule for staying close to the people she loves [27:00, 29:00] Grief, in real time — a dog, a job, a friendship [31:00, 35:00, 39:00] Inside Eric's next project, Forgiveness [47:00] Resources & Sources Mentioned -        Newsweek — “Meet 'Pardon Joe Exotic' Campaigner Eric Love”: https://www.newsweek.com/who-eric-love-tiger-king-team-tiger-pardon-joe-exotic-leader-1650352 -        TMZ — “Joe Exotic's Team Arrives to Deliver Pardon Request to President Trump”: https://www.tmz.com/2020/09/10/joe-exotic-tiger-team-eric-love-presidential-pardon-request-trump-dc/ Subscribe to With Hat and Cattle so you don't miss next week's episode. We're breaking our usual every-other-week schedule for a conversation with Amir Habib on AI literacy. With Hat and Cattle is a podcast hosted by Dani Raschel Chou featuring honest conversations with people who've earned their lessons through experience. This episode features Eric “Big Juicy” Love, a Fort Worth, Texas private investigator who led the 2020–21 campaign for a presidential pardon of Joe Exotic; Colin Weatherwax, a former nonprofit CEO now working in insurance; and Colin's daughter Kennedy Weatherwax, age 9, named Mayor of Arlington, Texas for a Day. The show's motto: stories from people who walk the walk, and leave you better off for listening. That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

  6. Jun 18

    He Rage Quit Into Tech; Now He's Explaining AI for the Rest of Us | Paul Byrne

    Paul Byrne rage-quit a corporate job, built a tech company from scratch with an Italian degree, and wrote Adapt or Die: The Real AI Playbook -- a framework for people who didn't go to MIT but still need to understand what AI is actually doing. In this episode, Paul breaks down how AI really works, why most people are using it wrong, and what you should actually be doing about it (no technical background required) ------------------------------------------------------------ WHAT WE COVER • 00:00  Introduction -- Paul Byrne and the book Adapt or Die: The Real AI Playbook • 01:30  How AI named the book (and why it was Paul's least favorite title) • 04:00  Deported from Austria: the story behind Paul's years running companies across Europe • 14:00  The rage quit -- Paul walks off a conference call and emails his boss 'I'm out' • 16:30  Would he do it again? What the burn-the-boats moment actually cost him • 19:00  Birth of Razoyo: from data entry to e-commerce technology company • 21:00  1951 and the first AI system -- why the history of AI matters for where it's going • 23:30  Is AI just another dot-com bubble? Paul's honest answer • 25:30  Why young people are resisting AI -- and what they're missing • 28:30  What are AI tokens? A plain-English explanation and the 'caveman prompt' trick • 30:30  The future of college degrees, certifications, and what humans should learn instead • 33:30  What AI can't do: Type 1 vs. Type 2 thinking, explained via Yann LeCun (former head of AI at Meta) • 36:00  How AI is actually improving: synthetic data, recursive learning, and why there's a ceiling • 41:00  The hidden problem with AI-written code -- and why the 10% you don't catch is expensive • 42:00  AI meeting tools and the bias against quiet people: why quantifying contribution misses the point • 45:00  Why Paul wrote the book: the anxiety entrepreneurs have about AI-driven business strategy • 47:00  Practical advice for beginners: how to build AI literacy starting today • 49:30  Agentic AI -- what it is, why it's the next big wave, and Paul's recommended tools • 52:00  What happens when you give an AI agent access to your ad budget (a cautionary tale) • 57:00  The difference between type 1 and type 2 AI memory -- and why your agents forget things • 58:00  Paul's closing thought: four granddaughters, the value of human life, and what's actually coming ------------------------------------------------------------ ABOUT PAUL BYRNE Paul Byrne is the founder and CEO of Razoyo, a Dallas-based e-commerce technology company. He holds an MBA from SDA Bocconi (Milan) and a degree in Italian from Brigham Young University -- proof, as he puts it, that there is no 'useless' degree. He is the author of Adapt or Die: The Real AI Playbook, a practical guide to understanding artificial intelligence written for business leaders and entrepreneurs who did not go to MIT. Connect with Paul on LinkedIn. Find Razoyo on LinkedIn and on the web. GET THE BOOK Adapt or Die: The Real AI Playbook by Paul Byrne -- https://www.amazon.com/Adapt-Die-Playbook-Founders-Successfully-ebook/dp/B0GHPBGM7C FOLLOW WITH HAT AND CATTLE, stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Subscribe today! Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou ------------------------------------------------------------ #AIliteracy #AdaptOrDie #ChatGPT #AIforBeginners #AgenticAI #WithHatAndCattle #PaulByrne #ArtificialIntelligence #Entrepreneur #CareerPivot #LLM #FutureOfWork #AItools #TokensExplained #HowAIWorks That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

  7. Jun 4

    The Contact Sport of Business: Mike Nurre on 35 Years of Showing Up

    What does business development and relationship building look like when you've been doing it for 35 years in Dallas, Texas? Guest Mike Nurre knows.  He's built a career, a community, and a reputation on one principle: give first, and keep giving. In this episode of With Hat and Cattle, host Dani Raschel Chou sits down with Mike Nurre: business broker, financial advisor, and Dallas community organizer, for a grounded conversation about business development, personal growth, and what it means to build legacy. Mike shares how he grew a career from cold calls to running his own firm, why knowing when to exit a business is its own skill, and how face-to-face relationships still drive everything.  If you're working on your personal development, building a network, or figuring out the next move in your career, take the time to invest in yourself and watch this conversation. Who this episode is for: Entrepreneurs, business owners, and professionals in Dallas, Texas and beyond who are serious about personal development, business development, and building a meaningful career without shortcuts. In this episode: [00:00] Introduction — financial advisor, business broker, and the "mayor of Casa View" [00:01] "Everybody wants a village, but nobody wants to be a villager" [00:03] What Mike wants you to know about him first [00:03] Life's break points: why 40 and 60 change everything [00:05] Career beginnings — Dun & Bradstreet and learning to sell [00:06] Xerox, oil & gas, real estate, and landing in business brokering [00:07] Forming his own firm in 2007 [00:07] "Business is a contact sport" — networking, giving first, and staying present [00:09] Not afraid to make the ask: the DMA story [00:11] Work-life balance vs. seasons of life [00:12] Life in thirds: learning, earning, returning [00:13] How Mike became the "mayor of Casa View" — building community from scratch [00:15] Community advocacy in East Dallas: the wins, the losses, finding the middle ground [00:17] The Magdalene House — the one that got away [00:20] "Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered" — on knowing when to exit a business [00:22] Preparation before opportunity — the Jim Rohn thread [00:23] The Picasso napkin story [00:25] Give, give, give — sometimes 10:1 before anything comes back [00:27] Soft skills we're losing — handshakes, name tags, and the power of face-to-face [00:29] AI, critical thinking, and the case for a liberal arts degree [00:32] Going back for an MBA at 35 — and why it mattered [00:35] Investing in yourself as a lifelong practice [00:38] The three mentors who shaped Mike's career [00:42] What kept him going when entrepreneurship got hard [00:43] Mike Nurre the music fan — The Rolling Stones, The Monkees, and live music memories That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

  8. May 28

    Inside a Real Coaching Session: Purpose Factor, Enneagram Triggers & Hard Truths (Part 2)

    In Part 2 of this unscripted live coaching session, Enneagram and Purpose Factor coach Darin K. Newbold takes host Dani Raschel Chou and her best friend Nicki Ketcham deeper than either of them planned to go. They unpack their Purpose Factor assessments, identify the patterns holding them back, and walk through a real-time framework for managing emotional triggers at work and at home, all in the name of personal development and personal growth. This isn't a polished interview. It's the real thing, with all the awkward pauses, the breakthroughs, and the moments where someone has to stop and say, "Oof, that's for my journal." In this episode, we explore: The four pillars of the Purpose Factor: Natural Advantage, Acquired Skills, Pull Passion, and Origin StrengthNicki's Builder Advantage...and the printer story that will resonate with every Type 3 listenerDani's Truth Teller Advantage...and the uncomfortable question Darin asks about why she isn't being heardA four-step framework for managing triggers in real time: recognize, pause, reframe, releaseWhy "frustration" is a cop-out word, and what's actually underneath itEnneagram stances explained: feeling dominant vs. feeling repressed, and how they shape your relationshipsA practical communication hack for Type 4 and Type 3 typesIf you've ever felt like people only take you seriously when you raise your voice, or you're the one quietly getting everything done while quietly resenting it, this conversation is for you. About our guests: Darin K. Newbold is the founder of Bold Solutions and creator of the Bold GPS framework, a guided purpose system combining the Enneagram with the Purpose Factor assessment to help leaders and teams find clarity and direction. He's a certified Enneagram coach and licensed Purpose Factor facilitator. Nicki Ketcham is Dani's best friend, a Type 3 Achiever, a Builder by Purpose Factor, and the woman who keeps Dani's emotions (and projects) on track. Special offer for listeners: Darin is offering $50 off his Bold GPS Starter Map — normally $297, available to With Hat and Cattle listeners for $247. Mention the show when you book a discovery call with him on LinkedIn. Mentioned in this episode: The Purpose Factor by Brian and Gabrielle BoschéThe Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne StabilePart 1 of this conversation (listen first for full context on the Enneagram)🎧 Make sure you've listened to Part 1 before jumping into this one. 📲 Follow the show, leave a review, and share this episode with the friend you thought of while listening. Connect with us: Darin K. Newbold on LinkedIn and at Your Bold SolutionsNicolle Ketcham on LinkedIn and at Big Future ConsultingWith Hat and Cattle brings you stories that leave you better off for listening. That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening. Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at dani@thehouseofchou.com.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube!  Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

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With Hat and Cattle is built on stories that are earned, not borrowed. We sit down with people who’ve put in the miles, learned the hard lessons, and kept showing up when it would’ve been easier to quit. This is a place for straight talk and quiet wisdom. You know, qualities that many Texans hold dear.  These are stories meant to be listened to slow, turned over, and carried with you. Because when you hear from people who truly walk the walk, you don’t just feel inspired. You leave better for it.

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