Hyphen Nation with Dave Lu

Dave Lu

Dave Lu, Silicon Valley tech veteran, startup founder, investor, activist, and Emmy Award-winning producer, talks to influential leaders in the Asian American community and beyond. His intimate conversations will dive into their journeys and explore how they got to where they are today, including all of the challenges and triumphs. The hope is that these episodes will be a form of mentorship and inspire others to write their own stories.

  1. 4h ago

    Yul Kwon - Overcoming Your Fears

    In 2006, Yul Kwon became the first Asian American to win Survivor — a cultural milestone that made him one of the earliest, most visible Asian American men on national television. But behind the strategic gameplay and the "sexiest man alive" headlines was a much more complicated story. In this episode of Hyphen Nation, Dave Lu sits down with his longtime friend Yul Kwon — Survivor: Cook Islands champion, former FBI advisor, ex-McKinsey consultant, and now a VP at Google — for a conversation that goes far beyond the show. Yul opens up for the first time in detail about growing up in Concord, California, as the child of Korean immigrants: a childhood marked by racist bullying, undiagnosed OCD, severe social anxiety, and a private, deeply shameful condition called paruresis (shy bladder syndrome) that shaped nearly every decision he made — including almost keeping him off Survivor altogether. Yul traces the full arc of his life: a bullying incident in elementary school that triggered decades of hidden struggle, the loss of his best friend Evan to leukemia at Stanford (and the bone marrow donor registry campaign it sparked), his pivot from law and public policy to McKinsey and Google, his winding path to Survivor, and the personal reckoning that came with sudden fame. He also shares the "competence, integrity, benevolence" trust framework he now uses to build relationships at work and at home, and reflects candidly on why so many Asian Americans are trusted to work hard but not trusted to lead — and what it takes to break that pattern. This is a conversation about identity, mental health, and the difference between being liked and being trusted — from someone who spent years hiding his story before deciding to use his platform to tell it. Topics covered: Growing up in Concord, CA as a child of Korean immigrantsUndiagnosed OCD, social anxiety, and paruresis (shy bladder syndrome)A childhood bullying incident and its decades-long psychological impactLosing his best friend Evan to leukemia at Stanford, and organizing bone marrow drives for the Asian American communityThe path from Stanford → Yale Law → Capitol Hill (Sen. Joe Lieberman) → McKinsey → GoogleNearly turning down Survivor because of his hidden conditionBecoming the first Asian American to win Survivor, and the disorientation of sudden fameBeing named one of People's "Sexiest Men Alive" and navigating stereotype-breaking visibilityThe "competence, integrity, benevolence" framework for building trustWhy Asian Americans are often trusted to be hard workers but not trusted to lead

    Yul Kwon - Overcoming Your Fears
  2. Jul 7

    Neela Montgomery - The Turnaround Queen

    Most leaders overlook the power of storytelling—until they realize it’s the secret to inspiring trust, driving change, and embracing leadership authenticity. Neela Montgomery’s journey from a small town near Manchester to leading global brands like Crate and Barrel, CVS, and sitting on the Logitech board reveals how mastering storytelling shaped her rise through some of the toughest markets and industries. In this episode, Neela shares how her early experiences growing up in the UK’s immigrant community taught her resilience, cultural agility, and the importance of authentic communication. You'll discover how her backgrounds—an English literature major turned marketing strategist—became her superpower in leading diverse teams and turning around brands. She breaks down practical tactics: how to raise your hand for leadership opportunities, the importance of managing P&L to reach executive levels, and why embracing tangents in your career can unlock unexpected growth. We also explore the often-overlooked organizational nuances—how navigating cultural gaps, political savvy, and code-switching are critical for success in global and diverse environments. Neela emphasizes the value of mentorship, building a network, and being relentlessly curious beyond your comfort zone—especially for Asian-American professionals seeking to break ceilings or those eager to lead with impact. Why does storytelling matter most in leadership? Because it creates trust, aligns teams, and influences decisions—especially when managing complex challenges like the COVID vaccine rollout or navigating market disruptions. Neela’s insights on embracing imperfection, taking risks, and prioritizing significance over success are invaluable for anyone aspiring to elevate their career and influence. This episode isn’t just a career deep-dive—it’s a masterclass on authenticity, resilience, and strategic storytelling as essential tools for modern leadership. Perfect for business leaders, aspiring executives, and anyone eager to make an impact while staying true to themselves.

    Neela Montgomery - The Turnaround Queen
  3. Jun 11

    Grant Lee - How to Build a $2 Billion AI Startup

    Grant Lee is the CEO and Co-founder of Gamma, an powerful AI tool to design presentations, websites and more. In November of 2025, Gamma raised $68 million at a valuation of $2.1 billion. With a team of less than 50 people, they were generating over $100 million in annualized revenue with over 70 million users. They have continued to grow their revenue and customer base, because people love their product. In this episode of Hyphen Nation, I sit down with my friend Grant Lee, founder and CEO of Gamma, the AI-powered platform reinventing presentations, documents, and storytelling. Grant shares his journey from growing up in Pleasanton, California, in a family that ran restaurants and worked at the post office, to Stanford, Optimizely, and ultimately founding one of the fastest-growing AI companies in the world. We talk about: Growing up as one of the few Asian Americans in his hometownThe sacrifices his immigrant parents made and the entrepreneurial lessons he learned from themWhy he walked away from a traditional engineering careerThe power of relationships, mentorship, and playing the long game with your networkHow to discover work that genuinely energizes youWhy too many people stay on the "default path" instead of pursuing what they truly wantThe early struggles of Gamma and the lessons learned when growth stalledBuilding conviction as a founder when everyone doubts your ideaLeadership, storytelling, and what Asian American professionals can learn from leaders like Jensen HuangWhy it's never too late to reinvent yourself and pursue your life's workGrant's story is a powerful reminder that success isn't about following someone else's definition of achievement. It's about finding the work that gives you energy, having the courage to leave your comfort zone, and taking ownership of your own path. Whether you're a founder, creator, aspiring entrepreneur, or simply wondering if there's more to your career than the path you're currently on, this conversation will challenge you to think bigger about what's possible.

    Grant Lee - How to Build a $2 Billion AI Startup
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Dave Lu, Silicon Valley tech veteran, startup founder, investor, activist, and Emmy Award-winning producer, talks to influential leaders in the Asian American community and beyond. His intimate conversations will dive into their journeys and explore how they got to where they are today, including all of the challenges and triumphs. The hope is that these episodes will be a form of mentorship and inspire others to write their own stories.

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