PropMedia Podcast

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PropMedia Podcast: Where Real Estate Media Professionals Build Better Businesses Hosted by Matty Fisher and Moses Nickerson, co-founders of Pixlmob and PropMedia.com, the PropMedia Podcast is the go-to show for real estate photographers, videographers, drone operators, and media professionals who are building businesses, not just taking pictures. Each week, Matty and Moses sit down with industry leaders who've scaled from solo shooter to successful media companies. We cut through the fluff to deliver actionable strategies on pricing, client acquisition, business growth, workflow optimization, and staying ahead of industry changes. Whether you're shooting your first listing or managing a team of photographers, this is where you'll learn how to expand your services, work with luxury clients, leverage new technologies like AI and 3D tours, navigate the off-season, and build the systems that turn your photography side hustle into a thriving full-service media business. This is where ambition meets execution in the real estate media world. New episodes drop every Thursday.

  1. 1d ago

    From $150 Real Estate Listings to $30K Architectural Shoots w/ Jordan Powers

    In this episode of the PropMedia Podcast, hosts Matty and Moses sit down in the studio with architectural photographer and YouTube creator Jordan Powers. Jordan shares his evolution from shooting weddings and portraits to building a successful real estate photography business, and ultimately transitioning into high-end architectural photography. We dive deep into the fundamental differences between real estate and architectural photography, covering everything from mindset and client expectations to pricing models, licensing, and business operations. Follow Jordan: Instagram: @jrdnpwrs (Jordan Powers without the vowels)Website & YouTube: Jordan PowersSponsor: Pixlmob: Need reliable photo editing? Find human editors tailored to your media business at app.pixlmob.com.Chapter Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction & Welcome Jordan Powers00:43 - Jordan’s Background: From Weddings to Real Estate01:54 - Getting Started in Real Estate Photography05:23 - Transitioning to Architectural Photography08:45 - The Two Paths: Scaling a Business vs. Deepening the Craft11:35 - Real Estate vs. Architecture: Mindset and Commitments15:58 - High-End Real Estate Exceptions17:40 - Defining Architectural Photography22:39 - Leaving Real Estate Behind to Succeed in Architecture24:40 - Understanding the Client Base (Architects vs. Designers)30:38 - Photo Crediting and Industry Visibility32:28 - Licensing and Upselling Architectural Media37:44 - Pixlmob Sponsor Spot38:24 - The Architectural Photography Journey & Workflow42:21 - Collaborative vs. Documentary Shooting Styles45:01 - Project Timelines, Scheduling, and Payments47:43 - Managing Client Billing and Paywalls48:40 - Lightning Round! (Gear, Travel, Rates, & Revenue)52:57 - Where to Find Jordan & Closing Remarks

  2. Sep 17

    From Film Cameras to Coaching: Decades of Property Media Wisdom w/ Darryl Stringer

    In this episode of the PropMedia podcast, hosts Matty and Moses sit down with Darryl Stringer, a premier real estate photography coach based in Brisbane, Australia. Darryl shares his journey in the property media industry—starting with film photography in 1998, transitioning to digital in 2003, and ultimately building, scaling, and selling a successful real estate media company before transitioning into full-time business coaching in 2015. In this episode, we cover: The Evolution of Property Media: Darryl's unique perspective on how the real estate media landscape has transformed from shooting film and delivering physical prints to today's era of digital delivery and AI tools.The "3 S's" Framework:Success: How to define what an ideal business looks like for you (pricing, hours, and order volume) before accidentally falling into a burn-out trap.Systems: Why documented standard operating procedures (SOPs), scheduled marketing, and structured hiring processes are crucial for solo photographers and growing teams alike.Shortcuts: How to leverage outsourcing, virtual assistants, established business models, and coaching to accelerate your business growth.Actionable Business Advice: Strategies for overcoming price-raise anxiety, managing your calendar, and breaking big operational goals into manageable steps.Whether you're just starting out, looking to scale a team, or wanting to branch into architectural or hospitality media, Darryl offers practical wisdom and actionable steps to help you build a profitable, sustainable business. Connect with Darryl Stringer: Website: buildaphotographybusiness.comSocial Media: @buildaphotobusiness

  3. Aug 20

    Is Property Media Dead? (and what's replacing it)

    In this episode of the PropMedia Podcast, hosts Matty and Moses tackle the age-old question: Is real estate media dying? Every few years, a new technology emerges that triggers panic across the industry—from the release of the latest iPhone camera to the introduction of floor plan tools and virtual tours. Now, in the era of AI and advanced 3D scanning, they explore the ultimate potential disruptor: Gaussian splatting. Join the discussion as they unpack how this game-changing technology dramatically lowers the skill barrier to entry, why the "job to be done" for real estate photographers is about much more than just taking photos, and how media companies can adapt, survive, and skate to where the puck is going. ----- ### Chapter Markers   * **00:00** - Introduction to the PropMedia Podcast   * **00:23** - The Ongoing "Death" of Real Estate Media   * **02:00** - Annual Tech Panics: iPhone Cameras, CubiCasa, & Matterport   * **03:34** - AI Editing and Virtual Staging Threats   * **05:12** - Lowering the Barrier to Entry: Art vs. Convenience   * **10:21** - The "Job to Be Done" in Property Media   * **13:33** - The Landscaper and Hamburger Business Metaphors   * **14:52** - Special Ad: New AI Tools Inside Pixlmob   * **19:52** - Analyzing Past Tech Shifts (DSLRs to Zillow Showcase)   * **20:38** - Deep Dive: What is Gaussian Splatting?   * **24:34** - How Photorealistic 3D Twin Models Change Media   * **27:50** - When the Industry Skill Level Drops to One   * **29:52** - Generating Infinite Media Formats from 3D Data   * **31:31** - Customer Service and Operations: The Keys to Survival   * **34:52** - High-Volume Commodity vs. Bespoke Agency Models   * **38:19** - Will Taste-Making and AI Ad Optimization Win?   * **40:28** - Final Thoughts: Skating to Where the Puck is Going

  4. Aug 6

    Cracking the Code on Brokerage Deals w/ Todd Kivimaki

    Are you tired of chasing individual real estate agents one by one? In this episode of the PropMedia Podcast, hosts Matty and Moses sit down for a masterclass in volume growth with Todd Kivimaki, founder of the Spiro platform and one of the country's top operators at WOW Video Productions. Todd shares the exact "top-down" strategy he used to scale his real estate media business across Ohio and surrounding states by shifting his focus from pitching individual agents to securing massive, exclusive deals with entire brokerages. Tune in to learn: The Brokerage Blueprint: How to identify traditional and franchisee-owned brokerages that are primed for partnership.Speaking the Right Language: Why brokers don't actually care about your photography or video quality—and why they only care about growing their market share and recruitment.Structuring Winning Deals: Todd’s exact approach to designing tiered discount packages and framing your services as a powerful recruitment value proposition.Leveraging Mid-Tier Agents: Why you should skip the "Mercedes-driving" top producers at first, and target the year-two, mid-tier agents to win listing presentations and outmaneuver the competition.Scaling for Volume: Honest insights on the operational shifts, systems, and hiring strategies needed when a massive brokerage deal brings in high-volume business overnight.Plus, stick around for a quick look at the latest workflow features from Pixlmob, including their game-changing new inline lot line overlay tool. Whether you are looking to land your first regional contract or take your real estate media business to the next level, Todd’s 20+ years of trial and error will help you rewrite your sales script and build a true media empire. Don’t forget to check out PropMedia.com and Pixlmob.com for more resources to grow your property media business!

  5. Jul 23

    Slowing Down to Capture the Soul of Architecture w/ Simon Devitt

    Welcome to the Prop Media Podcast! In this special episode, hosts Matty and Moses sit down with internationally recognized architectural photographer Simon Devitt. If you are feeling caught up in the daily hustle of traveling between multiple property shoots and are strictly looking for business principles, this might not be the episode for you. Instead, this conversation invites you to slow down, pause, and explore the philosophy of art, beauty, pace, and what it looks like to bring your soul into your work. Before diving in, we highly recommend visiting Simon's website to look at his renowned portfolio. Seeing his work provides essential context for the discussion, where he details his unique signature approach of artfully incorporating people into architectural spaces and staging natural family moments. **Key topics discussed in this episode include:**   * **Roots & Inspiration:** How Simon's childhood memories of his father's family slideshows in New Zealand sparked his early excitement and lifelong love for photography.   * **The Creative Mindset:** Shifting away from a "commodity" or document-style approach to real estate photography toward a mindset focused on exploration and capturing genuine human elements.   * **Preparation & Process:** Simon's meticulous step-by-step planning process, which begins three weeks out from a shoot, to rule out disruptions and safely manage human interaction on location.   * **The Art of Photo Books:** The slow, tangible, and highly reflective process behind Simon's publishing work, including his very first photo book that took seven years to create.   * **Reconnecting with Photography:** Practical advice for production real estate photographers on how to step away from screens, ignite their personal curiosity, print physical copies of their work, and engage with the world through fresh eyes. Tune in, step out of the rat race for a moment, and enjoy a meditative conversation on the true spirit of being a photographer. *If you enjoyed the episode or want to keep this conversation going, feel free to reach out\!* Chapter Markers: 00:00 - Introduction & Episode Overview 02:01 - Simon's Background & Early Inspiration 05:25 - Incorporating People into Architectural Spaces 11:22 - Client Communication & Strategic Shoot Planning 15:28 - The Reflective Art of Creating Photo Books 19:56 - Real Estate Commodity vs. Artistic Architecture Photography 27:07 - Finding a Balance: Spontaneity, Editing, and the On-Site Environment 40:45 - Practical Creative Advice for Production Photographers 49:33 - Book Publishing & Upcoming Releases 51:56 - Where to Follow Simon & Closing Remarks

  6. Jul 9

    Beyond the Listing: Finding Your Creative Voice in Property Media w/ Devon Pastorius

    In this episode, the co-founders of Pixlmob and PropMedia talk with Devon Pastorius, the head of Narwhal Creative in Windsor, Canada. Known for his work with the PMRE conference and his "zany" creative approach, Devon discusses his transition from traditional real estate media to running a full-scale advertising agency. He shares insights on standing out in a crowded market by thinking like an advertiser and moving beyond standard listing media to build brand equity for clients. ### Chapter Markers:   * **00:00** - Welcome to the PropMedia Podcast   * **01:05** - Devon’s Background: From Copywriting to Real Estate Media   * **02:16** - The Birth of Narwhal Creative   * **03:07** - Shifting from Listings to Agency Work   * **05:10** - Marketing a Brand vs. Marketing a House   * **08:04** - The Problem with "In-House Rockstar" Hires   * **10:01** - How the Pandemic Fueled Digital Media Growth   * **13:42** - Standing Out: Why Are You Making What You’re Making?   * **15:05** - Solving Problems vs. Selling "Flash and Sizzle"   * **17:48** - The Reality of Buyer Behavior and Property Videos   * **19:48** - Thinking Like an Advertiser   * **20:08** - **NEW** Ad: Pixlmob's New In-App AI Photo Effects   * **22:24** - Positioning the Realtor as the Expert   * **25:16** - Becoming Indispensable Through Vertical Integration   * **27:01** - The Best Clients Already Believe in Advertising   * **30:04** - "Zany" Content: Rap Videos and Cinematic Sketches   * **33:22** - Case Study: How a Viral Rap Video Got Four New Clients   * **36:32** - The "One Take" Historic Party Video   * **39:35** - Truth in Advertising: The "Piece of Sh\*t" House Idea   * **42:17** - Challenges of Scaling a Bespoke Business   * **45:49** - Quality of Life vs. Solo Operator Hustle   * **47:44** - Justifying Higher Budgets to Clients   * **51:07** - How to Start the Creative Conversation Today   * **52:33** - The "Vegan Curious" Marketing Concept   * **55:56** - Where to Follow Devon and Narwhal Creative

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PropMedia Podcast: Where Real Estate Media Professionals Build Better Businesses Hosted by Matty Fisher and Moses Nickerson, co-founders of Pixlmob and PropMedia.com, the PropMedia Podcast is the go-to show for real estate photographers, videographers, drone operators, and media professionals who are building businesses, not just taking pictures. Each week, Matty and Moses sit down with industry leaders who've scaled from solo shooter to successful media companies. We cut through the fluff to deliver actionable strategies on pricing, client acquisition, business growth, workflow optimization, and staying ahead of industry changes. Whether you're shooting your first listing or managing a team of photographers, this is where you'll learn how to expand your services, work with luxury clients, leverage new technologies like AI and 3D tours, navigate the off-season, and build the systems that turn your photography side hustle into a thriving full-service media business. This is where ambition meets execution in the real estate media world. New episodes drop every Thursday.

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