Money Code

Stablecon

The future of finance is digital. Welcome to Money Code, the show that decodes stablecoins and the evolution of programmable money for builders, investors, and decision-makers. Each week, join hosts Chuk Okpalugo, Author of Stablecoin Blueprint and Raj Parekh, Head of Payments/Stablecoins at Monad Foundation as they break down the systems and strategies of seasoned operators in the space, revealing the insights you need for better build and buy decisions.

  1. 10h ago

    Stablecoins Need Local Liquidity w/ Jack Chong (Checker)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Jack Chong, co-founder and CEO of Checker, a stablecoin liquidity network for regulated financial institutions that processed more than $3B over the last 12 months. They unpack why "USD is not the same in different countries," how stablecoins are creating a correspondent banking 2.0 layer, and why stablecoin payments still depend on local liquidity, settlement timing, and the bottlenecks around them. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Checker’s stablecoin network for financial institutions 01:48 Convert and trade vs send and receive 04:30 Why one API is not enough 09:33 Demand side, supply side, and who actually provides liquidity 13:26 "USD is not the same in different countries" 17:15 Correspondent banking 2.0 for emerging-market fintechs 20:27 How Checker expands beyond convert and trade 23:11 Float, settlement financing, and money at rest 28:09 Why USDT and USDC are not always one-to-one 35:09 What makes a stablecoin liquid 38:54 Start with the customer’s P&L, not the token 46:02 Showing up: what Jack learned in Lagos and Brazil 50:47 Where to find Jack and Checker Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Jack Chong / Checker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-chong/ | https://www.checker.finance About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

  2. Jul 16

    Blockchains Are the Fourth Generation of Payment Rails w/ Mark Frey (Corpay) & Keith Vander Leest (BVNK)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Mark Frey, Group President of Corpay Cross-Border Solutions, which moves money to almost 200 countries in 145 currencies, and Keith Vander Leest, US General Manager at BVNK, fresh off the two companies launching embedded stablecoin wallets for Corpay's corporate clients. They unpack why cost "is not really a big driver" for stablecoin adoption when in-country payments already cost pennies, why the real prize is moving trapped liquidity 24/7 after wire cutoffs, and why "no one's really asking for stablecoins" even as providers route more volume onto them. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 What Corpay manages across 145 currencies and 200 countries 03:08 The launch: embedded stablecoin wallets for corporate clients 05:38 Blockchains as the fourth generation of payment rails 08:38 "Cost is not really a big driver": the 24/7 unlock 10:15 "Swift is sleeping": instant rails that don't interoperate 14:36 "No one's really asking for stablecoins" 21:24 Blockchain will disintermediate SWIFT 26:55 Why stablecoins need more than dollars 31:17 "We wanted to get on offense": how an incumbent ramps up 34:56 The 80/20 problem: stablecoin volume is still mostly crypto trading 38:14 Public stablecoins and private bank chains, hand in glove 43:06 "Why are we talking about yield on balances?" 46:48 Where to find Mark, Keith, Corpay, and BVNK Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Mark Frey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-frey-cross-border-payments/ | https://www.corpay.com Keith Vander Leest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithvanderleest/ | https://bvnk.com About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

  3. Jul 9

    Stablecoins Collapse Global Expansion for Fintechs w/ Alfonso + Rodri (Crossmint)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Alfonso Gómez-Jordana and Rodrigo Fernández Touza, co-founders of Crossmint, a financial infrastructure company building wallets, stablecoin orchestration, and agentic commerce tools. They unpack why launching fintech globally can move from country-by-country banking integrations to a single API, how compliance shifts to infrastructure providers with economies of scale, and why the loudest agentic-payment narratives still have little volume compared with B2B procurement and payment collection. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Crossmint's evolution from NFT checkout to financial infrastructure 02:12 No API for economic activity 04:14 The monastery origin story behind Crossmint 07:51 Why NFT checkout became stablecoin infrastructure 10:02 Embedded finance: turning remittance receivers into wallet customers 13:23 Stablecoins as the universal API for global fintech 16:12 The regulatory-arbitrage objection 21:10 Four compliance surfaces in stablecoin programs 23:55 MoneyGram: reducing costs and turning receivers into customers 25:59 Marshall Islands: replacing cash-by-boat with stablecoin wallets 30:44 Agentic finance: real usage versus narrative heat 37:10 Why agents need multi-rail infrastructure 43:27 How Crossmint decides what to build next 48:39 Building enterprise trust in a frontier market 53:14 Where to find Alfonso, Rodri, and Crossmint Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Alfonso Gómez-Jordana: https://x.com/alfongj Rodrigo Fernández Touza: https://x.com/rodrifernandezt Crossmint: https://www.crossmint.com | https://x.com/crossmint | https://www.linkedin.com/company/crossmint-io About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

  4. Jul 2

    Stablecoins Are Payroll's Dollar Account Layer w/ Thierry Edde (Deel)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Thierry Edde, Head of Crypto at Deel, to unpack what five years building global payroll infrastructure taught him about where stablecoins add value. They break down why workers want dollar balances inside payroll apps, why compliant stablecoin salaries still run through local fiat rails, and how Deel is using Akai agents to clean up the payment failures deterministic code misses. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Deel's payments surface: 40,000 businesses, 150 countries 02:19 Why a late salary becomes an escalation 04:14 RFIs, SWIFT, and the missing status problem 06:44 Argentina showed every withdrawal path was in play 10:21 "Just people getting paid": hiding the chain 11:56 The wallet works because the off-ramps already exist 17:13 Businesses fund in stables, employees get paid compliantly 20:18 Reversing the stablecoin sandwich 23:29 DLUSD, card demand, and rewards behavior 28:36 Fiat payment scars matter for stablecoin scale 33:05 Akai agents and the last 1% of payout automation 36:37 Building Deel as an AI-native payment stack 40:31 Wallet expansion and where Deel goes next Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Thierry Edde: https://x.com/thierryEdde44 | https://www.deel.com/ | https://x.com/deel About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

  5. Jun 25

    Why Cash App Added Stablecoins w/ Miles Suter (Block)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh talk with Miles Suter, Bitcoin product lead at Block, about Cash App's new stablecoin experience and Block's long-running push to make Bitcoin everyday money. Miles explains why stablecoins now belong inside the same Cash App dollar balance as ACH and wires, why more than 40% of Lightning payments are being funded by dollars, and how Lightning could become the "global lingua franca" connecting stablecoins, Bitcoin, and merchants. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Cash App's stablecoin launch in one balance 03:44 Block's Bitcoin mission is bigger than Cash App 10:08 Dollars on Lightning proved the stablecoin UX 13:19 Why crypto complexity blocks adoption 15:04 Stablecoins as the bridge to Bitcoin 17:30 El Salvador lesson: people want stable digital value 20:33 Trust is built by what Cash App refuses to ship 25:04 Stablecoins and Cash App's global path 29:27 Stablecoins become another Cash App rail 30:59 Why replacing cards is harder than fees 37:31 Bitcoin purists, stablecoins, and internal resistance 39:48 Lightning bridges Bitcoin and DeFi 44:15 Bitcoin as savings, stablecoins as checking 48:43 Where to find Miles and Bitcoin at Block Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Miles Suter: https://x.com/milessuter | https://block.xyz/bitcoin About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

  6. Jun 18

    Every Payments Company Needs a Stablecoin Strategy w/ Ben Milne (Brale)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo sits down with Ben Milne, founder and CEO of Brale and founder of Dwolla, to talk about the stablecoin shift hiding inside payments P&Ls. Ben explains why issuance becoming "a non event" changes who can compete, how prefunding can turn stablecoins into a balance-sheet tool, and why payments companies may need to stop monetizing money movement and start building higher-margin services on top. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Why stablecoin issuance changes banking strategy 01:14 From credit card fees to payment infrastructure 02:31 Brale's pitch: issue a stablecoin in a minute 03:58 From $100M to $1: issuance becomes a non-event 05:45 The four markets pulling stablecoins forward 07:57 Prefunding: the hidden P&L lever in payments 10:01 Capital efficiency changes who can compete 12:49 "There is no basis point" in internet payments 14:33 Bank cores, protocols, and better financial infrastructure 18:21 Regulation gives banks permission to move 22:14 Why bank pilots now take weeks, not years 25:49 Non-USD stablecoins need local distribution 29:01 Where to find Ben and Brale Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Ben Milne: https://x.com/bpmilne | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bpmilne/ | https://benmilne.com | https://brale.xyz About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

  7. Jun 10

    Stablecoins Change the Math on Building Neobanks w/ Ryan Bozarth (Dakota)

    In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Ryan Bozarth, co-founder and CEO of Dakota, to unpack how Dakota went from building its own neobank to selling the regulated infrastructure layer behind the next generation of stablecoin-native fintechs. They dig into why building a neobank has shifted from a 12-18 month, multimillion-dollar project to something teams can test in weeks, and why the next bottleneck is domain expertise, distribution, and knowing which underserved market is worth building for. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Dakota's path from neobank to infrastructure 01:18 What "neobank" means on stablecoin rails 03:39 The new build math: weeks, not years 05:48 Community banking comes back through niches 08:28 Global rails, niche markets, and real experiments 10:47 Dakota's earned pain: onboarding and compliance as code 13:45 AI-native builders and marketplace distribution 17:48 When the neobank becomes a feature 21:57 Distribution is still the hard part 27:42 GENIUS, PACE, and the payment-institution lane 31:29 Why non-bank payments companies could win 34:49 Banks have to choose their game 37:15 Who benefits from the regulatory shift 41:33 Money becomes code 44:45 The offline niches nobody on crypto Twitter sees 46:00 Where to find Ryan and Dakota Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chukxyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Ryan Bozarth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanbozarth | https://x.com/ryanbozarth Dakota: https://dakota.xyz | https://x.com/dakotaxyz About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

  8. Jun 4

    Identity Is the Agentic Commerce Unlock w/ Amir Sarhangi (Skyfire)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Amir Sarhangi, CEO and co-founder of Skyfire and former Ripple VP of Product, building the identity layer that lets AI agents transact on the existing web. They unpack why payments is the easy step in agentic commerce, how Skyfire's KYA token threads the existing web security stack instead of replacing it, and why "anonymous is not a good thing" in the world of AI. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Access, login, checkout: the three problems agents must clear 02:32 The Bose headphones demo: what actually breaks for agents 06:04 KYA: binding human, agent, and enterprise into one token 08:07 Three layers an agent must clear: bot detection, fraud, login 10:35 "Agentic commerce has been happening. It's just been illegal." 14:11 Why Skyfire pivoted from anonymous crypto payments to identity 21:30 Experian's trust score: credit reporting for agents 24:39 Bank logins and the enterprise access problem 27:50 The Plaid analog for long-tail bank access 30:30 Same KYA token, three architectures: web, MCP, agent-to-agent 35:37 Three adoption phases and OpenAI's buy-button problem 41:04 The white space: vertical execution layers 43:37 Where to find Amir and Skyfire Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Amir Sarhangi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/asarhangi/ | https://x.com/amirsarhangi | https://x.com/trySkyfire | https://skyfire.xyz About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

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The future of finance is digital. Welcome to Money Code, the show that decodes stablecoins and the evolution of programmable money for builders, investors, and decision-makers. Each week, join hosts Chuk Okpalugo, Author of Stablecoin Blueprint and Raj Parekh, Head of Payments/Stablecoins at Monad Foundation as they break down the systems and strategies of seasoned operators in the space, revealing the insights you need for better build and buy decisions.

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