The Present Day Wise Woman

Jennifer Jefferies

This isn’t just another podcast. It’s a reckoning — and a rally cry. Hosted by Jennifer Jefferies — corporate speaker, naturopath, author, and proud midlife disruptor — The Present Day Wise Woman Podcast is where fierce, funny, wise women come to be seen, heard, and celebrated. Because midlife women are ready to stop shrinking and start setting fires. Each episode spotlights women who’ve faced the flames and come back stronger. We talk power, purpose, ageing boldly, speaking up, starting over — and everything they told us to quiet down about. No fluff. No beige. No pretending we’ve got it

  1. 3d ago

    Corporate Culture Is Cannibalising Midlife Women | Ep. 70

    The most dangerous kind of burnout is the one that still shows up to work looking capable. If you're a high-achieving woman in midlife who is exhausted in ways you can't fully explain, waking at 3am, running on caffeine, holding everything together while quietly falling apart, this episode is for you. Jen unpacks why burnout in high-performing women isn't a personal failure. It's the inevitable result of a structure that was never built for the female body, layered on top of a biological reckoning that corporate culture has no language for. Perimenopause doesn't arrive in a vacuum. It arrives in a body that has been running on overdraft for years. And when it does, the symptoms aren't signs of decline, they're the bill coming due. In this episode Jen explores the three renegotiations every high-achieving woman needs to make in midlife, with her body, her identity, and her time, and why the second half of your life doesn't have to be built on the same blueprint that burned you out in the first. Jennifer introduces the archetype of a successful, high-performing woman who appears to have it all together—remembers birthdays, covers for colleagues, delivers results, earns well—but is quietly running herself into the ground. She experiences 3 a.m. wake-ups, afternoon brain fog, caffeine dependence, and has cried in her car, yet tells no one. Jennifer establishes her credibility as a naturopath who has worked with hundreds of similar cases, noting that "the most dangerous kind of burnout is the kind that still shows up to work looking capable." Corporate culture designed without women in mind @ 2:53 Key Time Stamps 2:53 – Corporate culture wasn’t designed for womenJennifer discusses how high-performance workplaces reward relentless output while ignoring the realities of women’s health, hormones, and wellbeing. 5:30 – Perimenopause as a biological reckoningA powerful conversation around hormonal shifts, nervous system changes, anxiety, sleep disruption, and why women often feel unsupported during midlife. 7:37 – Adrenal burnout and what the body is communicatingJennifer explains burnout using the metaphor of an overdrawn bank account and why symptoms are messages from the body, not signs of failure. 9:03 – The identity crisis beneath burnoutThe discussion turns to the emotional impact of tying self-worth to productivity and the fear many women face when they can no longer maintain the same pace. 12:46 – How corporate culture consumes women’s resourcesJennifer explores how workplaces often benefit from women’s drive, emotional labour, and energy without supporting recovery or sustainability. 14:26 – Renegotiating body, identity, and timePractical and empowering insights on redefining success, supporting the nervous system, and separating identity from output. 15:42 – Building a life designed for youJennifer closes with a powerful reminder that women have the opportunity to redesign the second half of life on their own terms. "The most dangerous kind of burnout is the kind that still shows up to work looking capable." "Your body is not breaking down. It is breaking through — into a demand for a different way of living." "The women most at risk of midlife burnout are not the ones who don't care. They are the ones who care so deeply they forgot to include themselves in what they're caring for." "The second half of your life doesn't have to be built on the same blueprint that burned out the first. You get to be the architect now."

    14 min
  2. May 26

    Pull Up Your Own Chair with LJ Kennealy | Ep. 68

    This week's guest changes the rooms she walks into, and changes them for the women coming next. LJ Kennealy spent three decades in the Royal Australian Air Force, rising to Wing Commander and Gender Adviser to the Chief of Air Force. She's been deployed to Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, and worked at the United Nations in New York fighting to get more women into peacekeeping worldwide. When they tried to put her chair in the corner, she pulled it up to the table herself. SHOW NOTES Early life in Tasmania and joining the Air Force @ 5:00 LJ grew up in northwest Tasmania, where opportunities were limited despite the region’s beauty. Encouraged by her mother to “fly the nest,” she joined the Air Force at 18 as a practical alternative to university. Finding her voice in a male-dominated system @ 6:25 LJ struggled to speak up in a challenging military culture. After commissioning in 2001, she stepped into leadership and policy work, eventually joining the team responding to the Broderick Review into the treatment of women in the ADF. Despite strong resistance and backlash, she became deeply committed to advocating for women and creating lasting change. Flight camps that changed recruitment for women pilots @ 14:46 LJ helped create the “Air Force Women Defying Gravity” flight camps, giving young women hands-on exposure to aviation and technical careers. Instead of lectures, participants experienced flying, mentoring, and life on base. The program also uncovered recruitment biases and helped increase women pilot recruitment from 2.4% to around 13%, with the model later adopted internationally. Deployments to Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria @ 19:24 As a gender advisor in conflict zones, LJ witnessed extraordinary resilience from women risking their lives for safety, security, and freedom. She shares the heartbreak of the Afghan withdrawal, the trauma carried by women in war zones, and the frustration of seeing women’s voices ignored despite their expertise. She also recalls physically moving her chair to the table during a briefing, refusing to stay invisible. Working with UN Women in New York @ 30:07 At UN Women, LJ worked at the intersection of military operations and women’s rights. She collaborated with peacekeeping organisations worldwide and saw firsthand how women’s inclusion leads to stronger peace outcomes. Travelling through Central Asia, she was struck by how some countries were far more progressive about women in military leadership than Australia. Leaving the military after 30 years @ 37:24 Transitioning out of Defence was deeply emotional for LJ. Returning from New York, she felt disconnected from the organisation and grieved the loss of identity that came with leaving service. She speaks honestly about unlearning decades of conditioning, reclaiming her authentic self, and finding freedom in no longer having to conform to military expectations. Women Veterans Australia and the Phoenix Program @ 45:09 As Chair of Women Veterans Australia, LJ now advocates for better support systems for women leaving military service. She highlights alarming suicide statistics among women veterans and the gaps caused by systems originally built for men. Through programs, grants, mentoring, and women-only support spaces, the organisation is helping women veterans reconnect, heal, and rebuild. Living authentically and reclaiming personal power @ 55:15 For LJ, living in women’s power means owning your space, speaking your truth, and surrounding yourself with supportive people. She shares the importance of authentic relationships, mutual encouragement, and letting go of environments that diminish others. Advice to her younger self @ 57:14 If she could speak to her 18-year-old self, LJ would simply say: “You’ve got this.” She reflects on the importance of taking opportunities, finding the right support network, and trusting that even life’s hardest challenges can lead somewhere meaningful.

    49 min
  3. May 19

    The Bias Baked In Tracey Spicer on AI Power and Women | Ep. 67

    The global backlash against women's rights, Me Too six years on, why AI is quietly replicating old prejudices at scale, and what we can do about it. Sharp, funny, fierce and full of hope. Tracey Spicer spent three decades anchoring national programs for the ABC, Ten and Sky News. She's a multiple Walkley winner, an Order of Australia recipient, and accepted the global Sydney Peace Prize alongside Tarana Burke for the Me-Too movement. Her TEDx Talk has nearly seven million views, she is one of Australia's most recognised voices, and she's using it louder than ever. Now, through her book Man-Made, she's sounding the alarm on the bias being baked into AI and pulling absolutely no punches. SHOW NOTES Jennifer introduces Tracey Spicer as a renowned Australian media figure with over three decades of experience who's now focusing on AI bias through her book "Man Made." The two quickly bond over their shared "bogan" backgrounds from the outskirts of Brisbane, establishing a foundation of authenticity for their conversation. UN conference and Malala's powerful moment @ 1:49 Tracey shares her experience at the UN Commission on the Status of Women and reflects on Malala’s emotional call to make gender inequity a crime against humanity. Global rollback of women's rights @ 6:21 A powerful discussion on the growing backlash against women’s rights worldwide and why collective action matters more than ever. Intergenerational feminist collaboration @ 8:15 Tracey and Jennifer explore how younger women’s energy combined with older women’s wisdom can create meaningful change. Me Too movement's impact six years later @ 16:22 Tracey reflects on how Me Too changed workplace conversations while highlighting the rise of more subtle and tech-facilitated harassment. Positive masculinity countering the manosphere @ 18:36 The conversation highlights the importance of positive male role models and organisations helping young men challenge harmful online influences. AI bias and its real-world consequences @ 23:24 Tracey explains how AI systems are replicating historical bias in areas like loans, healthcare, and social services. Digital exclusion mirroring real-world discrimination @ 28:28 The discussion explores how AI-generated images and systems often erase diversity, disability, ageing, and women’s lived experiences. Practical steps for ethical AI engagement @ 31:56 Tracey shares practical ways women can engage with AI more ethically, including machine teaching and learning how these systems work. Media power structures replicated in tech @ 37:36 Drawing on her media career, Tracey explains how the same power imbalances seen in traditional media are now appearing in tech and AI. Protopia: A balanced vision for technology @ 41:02 Tracey introduces the concept of “protopia” where technology is developed to support humanity rather than control it. Final wisdom and personal reflection @ 45:08 The episode closes with Tracey sharing the advice she would give her younger self: fight the good fight sooner. CONTACT TRACEY Buy my best-selling memoir here: https://tinyurl.com/yxvzjc8d Watch my global TEDx Talk here: https://youtu.be/PENkzh0tWJs Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/traceyspicerjournalist Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/traceyspicer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/traceyspicer/

    47 min
  4. May 19

    Breaking the Too Late Myth Starting Over in Your 40s 50s and Beyond with Lisa Nichols | Ep. 66

    She went from wrapping her baby in towels because she couldn't afford nappies to reaching 88 million people worldwide. Lisa Nichols is a New York Times bestselling author, keynote speaker, and one of the featured teachers in The Secret, and in this conversation, she holds nothing back. We talk about finding your "never again" moment, grieving the life you thought you'd have, reclaiming your voice after decades of shrinking, and what to do when you're sitting in the cold with no spark and no idea what comes next. Plus, Lisa shares a piece she wrote for women kissing 60 that will stop you cold. This one is pure fire.   SHOW NOTES My guest today needs very little introduction — but she deserves every word of it. Lisa Nichols went from being a single mother on public assistance, struggling to buy nappies for her baby, to building a multi-million dollar global enterprise that has reached more than 88 million people worldwide. She is a New York Times bestselling author, founder and CEO of Motivating the Masses, and one of the featured teachers in The Secret. In December 2024 she became one of the very few African American women to write, produce, and perform a sold-out one-woman Broadway show — When My Soul Speaks. In this conversation, we cover: How to find your own "never again" moment when life has already handed you so manyGrieving the life you thought you'd have by now — and how to release it without getting stuckReclaiming your voice after decades of shrinking — in a marriage, a job, a roleWhat to do when you have no spark, no momentum, and no idea what your next chapter looks likeWho Lisa Nichols calls when she hits the wall — and the moment her own teachings weren't enoughWhat it really means to start over from abundance — and whether that's lonelier than starting from rock bottomAnd stay until the end — Lisa shares a piece she wrote for women stepping into their 60s that had me in tears. It's a grown woman's manifesto, and every single one of you needs to hear it. Join Lisa's Free Activation Series If anything in this episode lit something up in you, Lisa has something beautiful waiting for you. Every three weeks she hosts a free 30-minute live Zoom activation — real conversations for leaders and women ready to grow. It's free, it's powerful, and it's exactly what you need right now. Register here: motivatingthemasses.com/activation  CONTACT LISA Instagram: Lisa: @Lisa2motivate Motivating the Masses: @2Motivatethemasses Linkedin: Lisa Nichols https://www.linkedin.com/in/2motivate Motivating the Masses: https://www.linkedin.com/company/motivating-the-masses/ Youtube: Lisa Nichols: https://youtube.com/@lisanichols Motivating the Masses: https://www.youtube.com/@motivatingthemassesFacebook: Lisa Nichols: http://Facebook.com/lisanicholsfanpage Motivating the Masses: https://www.facebook.com/LisaNicholsMotivatingtheMasses/ TikTok: Lisa Nichols: @Lisa2motivate

    37 min
  5. May 12

    Don’t Do What Is Expected with Cherisa Peace | Ep. 64

    From the front lines of Timor-Leste to the local surf break, Cherisa Pearce is a former Army Major with 21 years of service who traded her uniform for a new mission, community, connection, and radical resilience. Now Secretary of the Currumbin Palm Beach RSL Sub-Branch and Chair of the Veterans' Support Centre, she's also a mum and coordinates a local surf group, proof that life after service is about staying connected, supported, and empowered. Cherisa speaks with the quiet authority of someone who has done hard things and chosen, deliberately, to keep showing up. She's bridging the gap between old and new veterans, making space for women in the RSL, and letting the ocean teach her what the military couldn't, patience, adaptability, and the art of reading what's coming. SHOW NOTES: Cherisa Pearce, a former Army Major with 21 years of service, discusses her experiences serving overseas in Timor-Leste and the challenges of transitioning out of the military. She shares how she proactively focused on having a positive transition, despite some initial struggles, and how that experience shaped her passion for supporting other veterans. The power of community and connection @ 3:55 Cherisa emphasizes the importance of community and connection, drawing on her own experiences of finding her "people" through surfing and the local RSL club. She discusses the value of showing up consistently for one another and creating safe, non-judgmental spaces where people can be vulnerable and support each other. Bridging the gap between older and younger veterans @ 19:03 Cherisa talks about her efforts to make the RSL more relevant and inclusive for younger and female veterans, challenging traditional perceptions. She shares her belief that a "veteran is a veteran" regardless of their service, and the importance of listening to and understanding the diverse experiences of veterans. Lessons from the ocean on resilience and adaptability @ 43:43 Cherisa reflects on how surfing and the ocean have taught her valuable lessons about patience, adaptability, and embracing change - skills that contrasted with her more structured military mindset. She discusses how these lessons have positively impacted her personal life and relationships. Advice for women in transition @ 49:24 Cherisa offers advice for women in major life transitions, emphasizing the importance of finding your "people," being open to new opportunities, and not being afraid to take that first step, even if it's difficult. She shares her own experience of leaving an unhappy marriage and the importance of being financially independent and setting a positive example for her daughters. Cherisa's key wisdom and parting thoughts @ 56:22 Cherisa emphasizes the importance of valuing your time, being organized, and not making excuses. She encourages women to be confident in their strengths and take steps forward, even if it means going against expectations. Her parting advice to her 18-year-old self is to "don't do what's expected of you" and instead pursue what you truly want. CONTACT CHERISA FB - Cherisa Jane Instagram - cherisa_jane LinkedIn - Cherisa Pearce

    1 hr
  6. May 5

    Seattle Women’s Chorus with Beth Ann Bonnecroy | Ep. 63

    She recorded vocals for World of Warcraft. She sang on film scores. She spent over two decades shaping the voices of young girls through Northwest Girl choir. And her very first date with her husband? A Seattle Men's Chorus holiday concert — in 1989. Now, more than thirty years later, she's stepping onto the podium of Seattle Women's Chorus as its first female resident conductor. Beth Ann Bonnecroy didn't just find her way into choral music. She built a life inside it — note by note, voice by voice, season by season. Today, she's talking about legacy. What we inherit. What we pass on. And why the most powerful music is the kind that makes you feel, less alone.   SHOW NOTES Beth Ann's journey with choral music @ 0:00 Beth Ann shares how she first got involved with the Seattle Men's Chorus and Seattle Women's Chorus through a date with her husband in 1989. She has been deeply connected to these choral groups for over 30 years, both as a singer and now as the first female resident conductor of the Seattle Women's Chorus. The power of choral music @ 8:10 Jennifer and Beth Ann discuss the profound impact of choral music, both for the singers and the audience. They describe the sense of community, joy, and emotional connection that comes from singing together in a choir. Beth Ann emphasizes the importance of choosing meaningful repertoire and helping singers embody the music. Choirs as a source of support and wisdom @ 14:09 Beth Ann shares how the Seattle Women's Chorus has become a supportive community for its members, providing a space for women to connect, share their experiences, and draw on the collective wisdom of the group. She describes how the chorus has helped members navigate personal challenges, such as supporting a transgender child. The conductor's role in shaping the choral experience @ 25:00 As the conductor, Beth Ann discusses the responsibility she feels to choose repertoire that is meaningful and uplifting, and to help the singers perform it with authenticity and emotional commitment. She also emphasizes the importance of being a "non-anxious presence" and empowering the singers to work collaboratively. The value of singing and community for all @ 30:10 Beth Ann encourages anyone who has the desire to sing, regardless of their experience or skill level, to find a choir or singing group in their community. She emphasizes the mental, physical, and social benefits of singing together, and the importance of experiencing the sense of community and shared purpose that choral music can provide.   CONTACT THE SEATTLE WOMEN'S CHORUS Impromptu Zoom Meeting - March 26 VIEW RECORDING - 42 mins (No highlights): ⁠https://fathom.video/share/Bjg8bweAM5_3kRrWssR7gnSzuwsDXSDt

    37 min

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This isn’t just another podcast. It’s a reckoning — and a rally cry. Hosted by Jennifer Jefferies — corporate speaker, naturopath, author, and proud midlife disruptor — The Present Day Wise Woman Podcast is where fierce, funny, wise women come to be seen, heard, and celebrated. Because midlife women are ready to stop shrinking and start setting fires. Each episode spotlights women who’ve faced the flames and come back stronger. We talk power, purpose, ageing boldly, speaking up, starting over — and everything they told us to quiet down about. No fluff. No beige. No pretending we’ve got it

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