The Present Day Wise Woman

Jennifer Jefferies

This isn’t just another podcast. It’s a reckoning — and a rally cry. Hosted by Jennifer Jefferies — corporate speaker, naturopath, author, and proud midlife disruptor — The Present Day Wise Woman Podcast is where fierce, funny, wise women come to be seen, heard, and celebrated. Because midlife women are ready to stop shrinking and start setting fires. Each episode spotlights women who’ve faced the flames and come back stronger. We talk power, purpose, ageing boldly, speaking up, starting over — and everything they told us to quiet down about. No fluff. No beige. No pretending we’ve got it

  1. 5d ago

    Rogue Wisdom - I Didn't Want to Live in That World | Ep. 85

    There's an exhaustion that has nothing to do with sleep. In early 2025, after 30+ years as a naturopath and activist, Jennifer Jefferies' hit it, hard enough to tell her wife, Alice, "I don't want to live in a world like this." Alice's answer: "We have to fight." What followed: a TEDx talk, "Who Killed the Crone?", and the birth of the Present Day Wise Woman Movement. You are not finished. Press play. Catalyst: A personal crisis in early 2025, sparked by policies eroding women's rights, led to profound disillusionment and a near-abandonment of activism. Turning Point: A reminder from her wife, Alice, and the historical example of the suffragettes reignited her purpose, shifting her from despair to action. Outcome: This journey culminated in a TEDx talk, "Who Killed the Crone?", and the formal launch of the "Present Day Wise Woman" movement. Core Message: The movement reclaims the "crone" archetype, arguing elder women were deliberately erased by systems that profit from their self-doubt, and calls for women to claim their full power. After 30+ years as a naturopath and activist, a crisis of purpose hit in early 2025. Cause: Policies systematically dismantling rights for women and minorities. Impact: A deep, personal sense of loss and exhaustion, leading to a near-abandonment of activism. Wife's Challenge: Alice's direct challenge ("We have to fight") reframed the despair as a call to action. Historical Inspiration: The example of the suffragettes, who endured mockery, imprisonment, and force-feeding, provided a powerful model of resilience and the principle that rights are taken, not given. Result: This dual inspiration transformed her disillusionment into a clear mission. TEDx Opportunity: In July 2025, she pitched her idea to a TED Global Idea Search, securing one of 90 spots from over 5,000 applicants. Talk Recording: "Who Killed the Crone?" was recorded in Sydney in November 2025. Talk Release: The talk was released in late March 2026. Core Argument: The "crone" (wise elder woman) was deliberately erased by systems that profit from women doubting their authority as they age. Novel: During the 11-month preparation, she wrote her first novel, When the Wise Woman Rises, to explore themes too complex for the keynote. Foundation: Built on over a decade of work, evolving through several groups: "Ascendants of the Feminine" (Facebook group) "Smart Sassy Seniors" (2023) Target Audience: Women who feel dismissed by a world that tells them they are "finished" just as they are coming into their own. Call to Action: Stand fully in your power and live your full life. The movement is a mission "with teeth," not a "wellness Key Takeaways Catalyst: Disillusionment in Early 2025 Turning Point: Reigniting Purpose Outcome: TEDx Talk & Movement Launch The Present Day Wise Woman Movement

  2. Sep 8

    Angela Counsel – Permission To Not Know | Ep. 84

    When you’re successful on paper but exhausted in your bones, the instinct is to optimise harder. Angela Counsel built that empire. Embrace Menopause was thriving, with hundreds of women getting results. So she walked away from it all. Not because it failed, but because she realised the real crisis wasn’t perimenopause. It was that women had stopped trusting themselves. This conversation moves past the symptom-fixing into something deeper: What happens when the answer you built stops being enough? How do you hear your own wisdom again after decades of listening to everyone else? And what if perimenopause isn’t a problem to solve, but it’s training for who you’re actually meant to become? Show Note: Pivoted from success: Angela Counsel closed her multi-six-figure “Embrace Menopause” business, feeling disconnected and joyless despite its success. Shifted focus to “Reclaim”: The pivot was driven by a need to shift from a “masculine paradigm” of constant growth to a “feminine embodiment of power” focused on helping women reclaim their inner wisdom. Perimenopause as a catalyst: Counsel views perimenopause not as a problem, but as a challenge that trains women to become the “wise woman” through listening to their bodies’ messages. Counsel closed her successful business at its peak, driven by a feeling of disconnection and a lack of joy despite strong client results. The decision was prompted by a mentor’s simple question: “What if you don’t run that program?” This gave her permission to pause and re-evaluate. The pivot was a deliberate move away from a “masculine paradigm” of constant growth and external validation, which she felt led to burnout. The hardest part was letting go of staff who relied on her for income. The new focus is on helping women “reclaim” their inner wisdom, not “reinvent” themselves. This involves trusting one’s own intuition, a concept Counsel now owns with her podcast title, “Wise Women’s Conversations,” after hesitating to use it previously. The new business model must support a lifestyle driven by personal values, specifically allowing for two multi-day hikes per year. Counsel views perimenopause as a challenge that trains women to become the “wise woman.” She suggests many symptoms attributed to hormones are actually caused by adrenal burnout from chronic stress. The key is to listen to the body’s messages during this time, which sets the stage for a fulfilling life post-menopause. The Pivot: From “Embrace Menopause” to the UnknownThe New Direction: Reclaiming Inner WisdomPerimenopause as a Catalyst for Growth. Contact Angela: Substack – Wise Women’s Conversations Facebook - @angelacounsel YouTube - @angelacounsel Instagram - @angelacounsel LinkedIn - @angelacounsel Website – www.angelacounsel.com

  3. Sep 1

    The Roads Less Travelled with Catherine DeVrye | Ep. 83

    She's been to 150 countries. Published ten bestselling books. Built a global platform most people dream of. And learned that none of it was the answer. Catherine DeVrye has spent two decades helping organisations and leaders turn obstacles into opportunities. But somewhere on those roads less travelled, she realised the real obstacle was internal. Today, she's here to talk about hope that's earned, resilience that sticks, and why the woman who has built a career, a life, everything, only to find it no longer fits, might be standing exactly where she needs to be. What I love about Catherine is I still remember the day I met her. Boat in Sydney. Key Takeaways New Book: Beyond Timbuktu is a travel memoir challenging media narratives by showing the kindness of people in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia. Resilience: Built through travel's constant problem-solving and reframing challenges as "first-world problems" to maintain perspective. Midlife Adventure: Devrye and Jefferies are part of a growing trend of women over 50 pursuing physical challenges like surf lifesaving and surfing. Core Message: The only regret is not telling loved ones you care while you have the chance. Contact Catherine DeVrye Website: ⁠www.beyondtimbuktu.com⁠ Website: ⁠www.greatmotivation.com/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠www.linkedin.com/in/catherined1/⁠ Facebook: ⁠www.facebook.com/catherinedevrye⁠ YouTube: ⁠www.youtube.com/@catherinedevrye⁠

  4. Aug 25

    The NaNaz - When Years Left Get Lounder Than Years Lived | Ep. 82

    You're fifty, perimenopausal, running on empty, and you've got less years ahead of you than behind you. So what do you do? You pick up a guitar. You form a punk band. You play a dingy venue in Newport so raw and chaotic that other musicians call it "the most punk rock thing I've ever seen." This is the story of The Nannas: five women over fifty who met at a free punk workshop and accidentally became a band. Not to inspire anyone. Not to find themselves through music. But because something inside them refused to go quietly, and they got tired of waiting for permission to be unapologetic. They're on BBC documentaries. They're touring Australia in November. One of them is a nurse who said "I've got less years ahead of me than I have behind me... I have to speak my mind." Another navigated perimenopause by deciding "You're going to be anxious about something. You might as well be anxious about being in a cool band." Key Takeaways Accidental Formation: The Nannas formed by chance after meeting at a free punk workshop for women over 50. Their first chaotic gig was so well-received, they decided to become a band.Midlife Catalyst: The band was a direct response to midlife changes (menopause, caregiving). It became a powerful outlet for channeling frustration and finding a new, unapologetic voice.Community Impact: The Nannas inspire a diverse audience (teens to octogenarians) by proving it's never too late to start something new and by fostering a supportive, non-competitive creative environment.Australia Tour Pitch: The band is actively seeking funding for an Australia tour in November to coincide with the Loud Women Festival, offering workshops and Q&As. CONTACT THE NANAZ Youtube: NaNaz Instagram: NaNaz Facebook: NaNaz Spotify: NaNaz Bandcamp: NaNaz NaNaz Merch: https://thenanaz.bandcamp.com/merch

  5. Aug 18

    The Oncology Doula What Fifty Years at the Bedside Taught Me About Living with Ann Wax | Ep. 81

    If you've built a life that looks right but doesn't feel right anymore, this one's your permission slip to ask the harder question. Ann Wax RN has spent fifty years at the bedsides of people facing cancer, and what she's learned isn't just about illness. It's about what matters when we stop performing and start telling the truth. As an oncology nurse, Oncology Doula™, and author of the upcoming Be Your Own Lifeguard, Ann shares what her patients have taught her about resilience, self-worth, and becoming a "Present Day Elder." Key Takeaways Pivoted from Nurse to Doula: After 50 years as an oncology nurse, Ann Wax became an oncology doula to focus on the emotional support patients need, rather than the physical demands of chemotherapy administration. Core Philosophy: "Be Your Own Lifeguard": This principle, which is also the title of her upcoming book, advocates for radical self-preservation. It teaches that you must save yourself from drowning relationships or situations before attempting to help others. Empowering Patients to Speak Up: Wax's work involves giving patients permission to voice their needs and concerns, especially women who are often conditioned to remain silent. She believes authenticity is crucial to healing. Legacy as Healing: Legacy is not just what we leave behind, but also the unconscious wounds and patterns passed down through generations. Wax's goal is to help people recognise and heal these wounds to create a positive legacy for the future. Contact Ann Wax LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annwax/

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This isn’t just another podcast. It’s a reckoning — and a rally cry. Hosted by Jennifer Jefferies — corporate speaker, naturopath, author, and proud midlife disruptor — The Present Day Wise Woman Podcast is where fierce, funny, wise women come to be seen, heard, and celebrated. Because midlife women are ready to stop shrinking and start setting fires. Each episode spotlights women who’ve faced the flames and come back stronger. We talk power, purpose, ageing boldly, speaking up, starting over — and everything they told us to quiet down about. No fluff. No beige. No pretending we’ve got it

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