Chronicles of the Phoenix

Erin Saylor and Courtney Seely

The Chronicles of the Phoenix podcast is about creating space for real conversations about topics like emotional healing, creative ways to practice self-compassion, leadership from the inside out, and the stories that shape us. Erin & Courtney, mental health therapists, leadership strategy experts, and co-founders of Phoenix Rise Consulting take you on a journey of conversations to spark resilience, healing, of course, humor!

  1. One Year In: What Building Something Taught Us

    1d ago

    One Year In: What Building Something Taught Us

    One year ago, we made the decision to leave full-time work and build something of our own. In this episode, we reflect on what this past year has really taught us. Not just about running a business, but about identity, connection, and what it means to build something while also being changed by it. We talk about the people who shaped this experience in meaningful ways, the role of connection and community, and what we’ve learned from being in rooms with others who are building something of their own. We also share the mistakes, the moments that didn’t go as planned, and the realities that don’t always get talked about when you step outside of something known and into something new. Woven into this conversation is a deeper thread. Growth often requires letting go of versions of ourselves we once depended on. There are moments in the process that feel like breaking down before they feel like becoming something new. This episode is not just for business owners. It’s for anyone who has taken a risk, made a change, or found themselves in the middle of something that is still unfolding. Brand Videos by Teresa Hnat Studio: https://www.phoenixrisect.com/videos Teresa Hnat Studio: https://www.teresahnat.com/ Resilience Circle Special Event Registration: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/resilience-circle-special-event-cojourn-with-molly-keehn-edd-tickets-1988570843925

    48 min
  2. Mental Health, Stigma, and What Happens Between the Crises

    May 29

    Mental Health, Stigma, and What Happens Between the Crises

    During Mental Health Awareness Month, conversations about mental health are more visible than ever - but awareness alone doesn’t always translate into access, support, or meaningful change. In this episode, we explore the realities behind mental health stigma and the barriers that still exist when it comes to asking for and receiving help. We spend time talking specifically about boys and men, how they are often socialized away from emotional expression, and the impact that has on help‑seeking and mental health outcomes. We also look at how our systems are designed to respond to crisis -when things have already reached a breaking point -while often overlooking the quieter, less urgent space in between. This is where deeper work happens: work around childhood experiences, attachment patterns, trauma, identity, and values. While crisis care is essential, it is only part of the picture. Sustainable mental health is built in the space between those moments, through ongoing support, reflection, and intentional work. This conversation is an invitation to think differently about mental health. Not just as something to address when things fall apart, but as something to understand, invest in, and tend to over time.

    41 min
  3. What Happens When You Give People Permission to Play

    May 15

    What Happens When You Give People Permission to Play

    What happens when you walk into a professional conference and everything signals that you don’t have to perform? In this episode, we share an experience from a recent conference where the theme was not just decorative, but intentional. A circus. Playful. Unexpected. And immediately, something shifted. People softened. Conversations felt different. Connection came easier. From that moment, we explore a deeper question: what happens when environments give people permission to be human? We discuss the role of connection in the workplace and beyond, why loneliness and disconnection were problems long before COVID, and how connection drives real outcomes like engagement, retention, and performance. We also reflect on moments of alignment with other organizations and what it means to truly “find your people.” Most importantly, we unpack why play is often misunderstood. It is not something you schedule or add on top of a demanding culture. It is something that emerges when people feel safe, seen, and allowed to show up more fully. We also explore the real tension leaders, parents, and individuals face. When pressure is high, play can feel optional. But its absence quietly impacts energy, creativity, connection, and sustainability over time. This episode is not just for leaders. It is for anyone who has felt the difference between environments that require performance and those that allow you to simply be.

    34 min
  4. The Enneagram Goes on Spring Break: How Each Type Travels

    May 1

    The Enneagram Goes on Spring Break: How Each Type Travels

    Spring break travel has a way of revealing exactly who we are. What we need, what stresses us out, and where we thrive becomes much clearer when we leave our routines behind. In this episode, we take the Enneagram on the road and explore how each type tends to show up while traveling. We share Enneagram‑informed insights into how different types plan or avoid planning, handle stress, seek freedom or structure, and navigate group dynamics on trips. Along the way, we weave in personal stories from Erin’s recent Type 7 trip to New York with loose plans and lots of options, and Courtney’s upcoming Type 9 trip to Paris, where the desire to go with the flow meets anxiety and a familiar stress‑line pull toward Type 6 planning. This is a lighter, playful episode with real insight about why travel can feel regulating for some people and deeply overwhelming for others. We talk about how awareness of your Enneagram type can help you travel with more compassion for yourself and the people you’re with, and how naming needs ahead of time can make trips more enjoyable for everyone involved. Whether you love an itinerary or thrive on vibes, this episode invites you to understand your travel style a little better and maybe plan your next trip with less stress and more grace.

    53 min
  5. Standing Where I Once Begged to Be

    Apr 17

    Standing Where I Once Begged to Be

    This episode is an invitation to slow down and notice the progress we so easily overlook. Inspired by a poem from Haley Grace that begins, “I might not be everything I want to be today, but I am everything I wanted to be two years ago,” we explore why healing often goes unnoticed and why acknowledging how far we’ve come matters just as much as envisioning where we’re going. We talk about the tendency to constantly move the goalpost, to live in future‑focused growth, and to miss the fact that many of us are already standing in a life we once begged for. This is not an episode about manifesting or striving. It’s about presence, perspective, and integration. Through stories from our own lives, our clinical work, and experiences with clients and kids, we reflect on how healing shows up quietly. We also unpack why our brains struggle to hold onto past progress and how intentional “lookbacks” help the nervous system register safety, change, and growth. This conversation is for anyone who feels behind, impatient with their healing, or disconnected from the evidence of who they’ve already become. You don’t have to be everything yet. But the fact that you’re here, that you stayed, that things that once felt unbearable are now just things - "that has to count for something."

    38 min
  6. You’ll Be Alright, Kid: The Anxiety Epidemic Facing American Youth

    Apr 3

    You’ll Be Alright, Kid: The Anxiety Epidemic Facing American Youth

    This episode is a compassionate, honest look at what is really driving the anxiety crisis among children and adolescents in the United States, and why so many kids are struggling under the weight of pressure that was never meant for them to carry. Using Alex Warren’s song “You’ll Be Alright Kid” as a grounding thread, we explore how today’s kids are growing up inside multiple pressure systems at once. Academic performance, hyper‑competitive youth sports, social media validation loops, and well‑intentioned but conditional approval have quietly taught many kids that their worth is something they must earn. We examine what the data tells us about the rise in youth anxiety, unpack the role of ego and external validation, and discuss why social media has become such a powerful amplifier of identity collapse. We also break down a landmark legal verdict in which Meta and YouTube were found negligent for engineering addictive platforms targeted at children, confirming what many parents have sensed for years: this is not a willpower issue or a parenting failure. It is a systemic design problem. To offer hope, we look outside the U.S. to Norway, where a child‑centered approach to sports, development, and boundaries around technology has produced not only healthier kids, but extraordinary long‑term outcomes. The contrast reveals that protecting childhood is not about lowering standards. It is about redefining what success means. This episode closes with tangible ways parents, coaches, educators, and caring adults can shift the message kids are receiving every day and begin cultivating internal validation, emotional resilience, and unconditional belonging. At its core, this episode asks a simple but critical question: What if kids didn’t grow up believing they were only as good as their last result?

    48 min
  7. Turning 40: Birthdays, Milestones & Midlife Magic

    Mar 20

    Turning 40: Birthdays, Milestones & Midlife Magic

    Turning 40 deserves its own moment, and this episode is exactly that. To celebrate Courtney stepping into a new decade, we’re doing something special: Erin and our first‑ever guest, Bill Cox, take over the mic to interview her with a mix of heartfelt curiosity, unhinged humor, and questions she absolutely did not see coming. We open with a light reflection on how birthdays shape identity and how midlife actually feels (spoiler: not the crisis culture promised). Then the real fun begins as Erin and Bill ask Courtney their hand‑picked questions that cover everything from personal growth to pure chaos. A few of the questions they ask include: What are you most looking forward to over the next decade? Who are you becoming that 20‑year‑old Courtney would admire? And be honest… who is harder to co‑regulate, Erin or Bill? This episode is playful, honest, and full of the kind of laughter and storytelling that lets listeners get to know Courtney in a whole new way. Whether you’re approaching your own milestone or just here for the celebration, this one is full of midlife magic and birthday energy in all the best ways.

    57 min
  8. Armor Up: Why We Dodge Vulnerability When We Need It Most

    Mar 6

    Armor Up: Why We Dodge Vulnerability When We Need It Most

    This episode explores the deeply human, biologically driven patterns that lead us to protect ourselves when we feel exposed. Courtney and Erin take listeners through the neuroscience of defensiveness, how shame triggers activate the limbic system, and why our bodies shift into self‑protection before we even realize it. Grounded in Brené Brown’s research, the episode examines the types of emotional armor people use—perfectionism, shutting down, deflecting, overexplaining—and how these patterns develop as responses to perceived disconnection or unworthiness. The conversation also highlights how simple phrases like “Can we talk?” can activate a threat response, especially in moments of stress, and how our internal narratives often shape our reactions more than the situation itself. The episode emphasizes the paradox that while vulnerability fosters trust, defensiveness can block the very connection we need. Ultimately, the message is clear: defensiveness is not a flaw—it’s a nervous system response we can learn to understand, soften, and move through. By recognizing our armor, questioning the stories we tell ourselves, and practicing vulnerable communication with safe people, we create space for connection, belonging, and emotional clarity.

    50 min
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The Chronicles of the Phoenix podcast is about creating space for real conversations about topics like emotional healing, creative ways to practice self-compassion, leadership from the inside out, and the stories that shape us. Erin & Courtney, mental health therapists, leadership strategy experts, and co-founders of Phoenix Rise Consulting take you on a journey of conversations to spark resilience, healing, of course, humor!

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